Arctic Explorer Rebuts ‘Warming Island’ Critique

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INSERT DESCRIPTIONA sequence of Landsat satellite images, from summers in 1985, 2002 and 2005, shows the retreat of ice that exposed what is now called “Warming Island” along the east coast of Greenland. (Credit: Jesse Allen, NASA)

Early in 2007, The Times published an article by a freelance writer, John Collins Rudolf, recounting a visit to a newly identified island off the east coast of Greenland, dubbed Warming Island by Dennis Schmitt, an Arctic adventurer, composer and linguist from Berkeley, Calif. The island had long been presumed to be a peninsula, until a sheath of ice, retreating under the influence of recent Arctic warming, pulled back to reveal it was unconnected to the main mass of Greenland. Last year, Mr. Schmitt told Mr. Rudolf that he hoped the island would become an international symbol showing how global warming was transforming the world.

This year, Patrick J. Michaels, a climate scientist with the anti-regulatory Cato Institute and a self-described purveyor of “advocacy science,” challenged Mr. Schmitt’s assertion that the island was newly exposed. Dr. Michaels did so first at a recent conclave of climate skeptics organized by the Heartland Institute, then on his World Climate Report Web site. His main evidence was a map in a 1957 book, “Arctic Riviera,” by an aerial photographer, Ernst Hofer. The map shows the little island’s distinctive three-finger profile, with no ice bridge to the main coast.

Dr. Michaels’s Web site doesn’t allow comments, so I invited Mr. Schmitt to respond to the critique here. I’ve attached his commentary below. It’s best read after reading Dr. Michaels’s complaints first.

From Dennis Schmitt:

Concerning recent controversies associated with Warming Island

Dennis SchmittDennis Schmitt along the east coast of Greenland last year. (Credit: Jeff Shea for The New York Times)

I have before me the 1957 Hofer book with its rough map of central east Greenland. I also have an accurate topographical map of the region. The first thing I notice is that Reynolds Island is missing from the Hofer map. I see also that Murray Island, which is of greater but comparable size, is present in very rough outline. The rock hand of the old Warming Peninsula is visible as well in very rough outline. Then I notice a straight line drawn arbitrarily across the northern edge of Liverpool Land cutting off and eliminating an entire landscape of mountains, headlands, peninsulas, glaciers, ice shelves and an island. I feel some sense of recognition in studying this image. Indeed the document portrays the land the way I usually see it flying in during the summer. The area’s maritime microclimate generates a prevailing fog belt that may cover up Reynolds Island (180 meters high) but will leave Murray Island (480 meters high) visible in rough outline. Warming Island with its high mountain walls invariably rises above the fog to show its rock outline while the connecting ice shelf along the entire oceanic straight is completely buried in fog. If I were to make a sketch of the region on such a typical summer day I would come up with pretty much the same blank spaces that I see in the Hofer document. The same mountains, headlands, peninsulas, glaciers and ice shelves would be missing from my sketch.

I do not know the specific circumstances behind the documentation of that time but I do understand the various reasons why early maps end up as schematics, only partially complete. I see by the markings of the 1957 document that it is to be construed as indeed only schematic, that it is explicitly incomplete. I see that north of the arbitrary line there is a blank space not to be construed as a positive oceanic emptiness but simply as a lack of data.

The rock in this region is the product of Caledonian collisions of 400 million years ago. When I see so much of this rock missing from the Hofer document I do not really believe that the rock was not present on the day the sketch was drawn. I assume that data is missing not rock. And while it is true that ice shelves are not as permanent as rock, they are (especially when enclosed as the one here is) relatively permanent features of the landscape. Those that make sudden movements do it in ways that make physical and glaciological sense. But even if ice shelves were capable of packing a lunch and going off to work in the morning to return in the evening for dinner that would have nothing to do with the lack of field data in the 1957 document. It is clear in this case that the data is missing, not the ice. The question then arises as to why someone would ignore the limits of the data and pointedly misinterpret the schematic. Well, the human mind is full of reasons.

If a different event, let us say, the strange disappearance in 2005 of Reynolds Island, had been mentioned in The New York Times as a proof of global warming then we would be dealing with the same misinterpretation in a different geographical place. Reynolds Island is definitely missing from the 1957 document. Those with reason to dispute global warming could readily seize the fact that a map shows Reynolds Island as not existing back in 1957. The disappearance of Reynolds Island in 2005 therefore might be construed as part of a natural cycle of appearances and disappearances of Reynolds Island. Global warming might safely be construed as having nothing to do with the disappearance of Reynolds Island.

It may be that the problem with the Warming Island ice shelf lies in the limited ability of the human mind to engage in abstraction. Let us draw three portraits of the 1957 schematic. In each portrait we draw the straight line cutting off all the landscape data to the north. In the first portrait let us fill up that blank space with something really concrete, let us say “pink elephants.” That gives us something “real” in the empty space to support the marginal, abstract talents of our minds. Imagine those pink elephants in that space. In the second portrait we have the same situation but we are going to replace the pink elephants with something different, let us say with “question marks.” Question marks, apart from their physical shapes, provide a message. They say “we don’t know what goes here.” With those question marks in our second portrait the mind has some concrete support as before. But this time the concretion we put in is thematically accurate, it conveys the intended lack of information. Let your imagination chew on those question marks while your abstract rational mind perceives what is real and what is not. Now you should be ready for the third portrait. The third portrait shows the straight line with a blank space that may be interpreted as a data limit in its proper abstraction.

The irony in all of this is that I do not subscribe to the theories of climate change when presented in a doctrinaire way. I see climate change as a nonlinear problem of multiple interactive variables with no absolutely proven outcome. These variables include volcanic out gassing, Milankovich cycles, tectonic plate movements, solar variability, meteor impacts, comet tails, albedo, oceanic circulation, topography, a variety of hidden threshold effects, biological evolution and human technology. The problem has been streamlined with computer models that limit variable participation to generate predictions. This gives us some solid betting odds that we could well put our money on. But the complexities doom us to many probable reversals that may disappoint us if we come to depend on an “ideology of global warming” for our psychological well being. To turn “global warming” into a fixed dogma is to subject it to the same sort of intellectual deterioration as we have seen with the various tenets of “political correctness.” It is important to resist the temptation to press closure on this topic. It is important to listen to the critics.

One of the facts pointed out by the critics is that climate shows a long history of cyclical undulations. That is true, and we observed them in the 20th century. But it is pretty clear to me that at the end of the 20th century something abnormal began to show up in the climate data. We began to see a curve of upward temperature change that was accelerating in its curvature. The second and third derivatives of the mathematical function of the curve were doing something unprecedented. They were showing a spike that, if allowed to continue, would be disastrous. This spike was different from the moderate and relatively inconsequential undulations noted earlier in the century. The spike was one of the reasons for the alarm in The New York Times article of last year.

I am the first person to notice that the press makes errors. I have come to expect them in everything that I read. The New York Times article in question stated that the Ward Hunt Ice Shelf was located off Greenland instead of Ellesmere Island. In 1995 I crossed the Ward Hunt Ice Shelf and I know where it is. The article seemed to have me putting it in the wrong place. I was a bit upset about this, but, in the end, took it as a minor point. Over all the article was accurate. A 2004 article about my discoveries in the Stray Dog Islands off of North Greenland gave credit to someone else for an island I discovered with Jim Shaeffer and Bob Palais in 1996. I was quite upset about this. But the overall article was accurate. On the 2007 topic of “a peninsula in east Greenland breaking away from the mainland to form an island” it is my view that The Times reported very accurately. In this case those who attacked The Times’s article as a hoax would have better applied that particular criticism to themselves.

Dennis Schmitt, April 20, 2008

I don’t want to spend a lot of time, and posts, batting back and forth with Dr. Michaels and others about this bit of Arctic minutiae, but I did think it only fair to give Mr. Schmitt a place to respond. Ultimately, there is limited value in debating whether human-driven warming has caused the uncloaking of any particular Arctic island, the retreat of a snowfield atop any single mountain — even one as charismatic as Kilimanjaro — or the breakup of a particular ice shelf in Antarctica, or any other regional anomaly.

The data on past natural fluctuations are often murky, and the ability of scientists to discern the cause of short-term changes in particular places remains limited. In the end, such fights can distract from the clarity of the long-term picture of a world in flux for centuries to come under a building human influence on climate (and biology, oceans, and landscapes).

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Is this Island in any of the the regions of the former Viking farming communities? They would have known it was there, mapped it.

Mr. Schmitt views this from the proper perspective. He states, “The irony in all of this is that I do not subscribe to the theories of climate change when presented in a doctrinaire way. I see climate change as a nonlinear problem of multiple interactive variables with no absolutely proven outcome. These variables include volcanic outgassing, Malankovich cycles, tectonic plate movements, solar variability, meteor impacts, comet tails, albedo, oceanic circulation, topography, a variety of hidden threshold effects, biological evolution and human technology.”

He also says that computers help sort out the betting odds and concludes that “it is important to listen to the critics.”

The bulk of the environmental movement has been reduced to repeating their new mantra: ignore the deniers and move on. They either don’t recognize or don’t want to recognize that there are legitimate viewpoints that challenge the current theories without denying that global warming is happening. To that end, they produce article after article that describe the symptoms after glossing over the causes.

If this attitude continues, the results will be less favorable than they could be. The best results follow the best information. The best information will be culled from a lively debate that includes all sides.

From climatescam.com
There are many good reasons to conserve energy. Nearly every light bulb in my home has been changed to the new fluorescent ones. Unlike Al Gore and many Hollywood elitists, the house I live in is relatively small and is not a huge energy consumer. I drove a vehicle that had 250,000 miles on it until it threw a piston rod. The reason for this is that I believe in conservation for its own sake. I grew up during a time when hand-me-downs were common and being wasteful was a sin. Why be wasteful anyway?

So much of our oil is supplied by countries that hate and wish to destroy America. These range from the left wing government of Hugo Chavez to the fundamentalist Islamic states like Iran and Saudi Arabia. Every dollar we spend importing oil is added to the resources of these people which they use to try to hurt America. New energy sources and conservation are in the national security and environmental interest of all patriotic Americans.

However, it is not hard to see that some of those who have attempted to perpetrate this tale about man-made global warming are more interested in climate change as a way of increasing the power of government over all of our lives instead of implementing a sensible energy policy. If you read the “you should conserve, so they don’t have to,” page you will see examples of the wasteful and hypocricital lifestyles of some of these people including Al Gore himself. Some on the left believe in a government command and control economy and are willing to use global warming as a way to accomplish this. They also wish for higher taxes on carbon dioxide emissions. This is a clear indication of their wish to avoid conserving. They can afford a higher tax and keep on with their wasteful ways. Al Gore’s mansion in Tennessee used 20 times the amount of electricity than the average American home. However, if the taxes are implemented, the average person would have to cut back on their energy use or have to install expensive alternatives to keep up their standard of living.

Another related example of this is NYC Mayor Bloomberg’s traffic congestion plan. The mayor wants to tax cars that enter parts of Manhattan. This would enable only those who could afford the tax the “privilege” of congesting those areas of the city with their cars. He would accomplish his goal of raising money and making the selected areas less congested by making this privilege available to the rich.

Others seem to be motivated by ideas about a mystical and mythical past where people supposedly lived in harmony with nature. Read the “in their own words” section to see some extreme ideas about humanity. Ask anyone who has really lived in nature without modern medicine and insect repellent about the benovolence of the natural world.

Read “global warming as a religion,” to see how certain ideas concerning climate change are taken on faith. Religions in the past have punished heretics and read how the Church of Global Warming is no exception.

Still others, perhaps many in the entertainment community, live extremely materialistic and pampered lives and wish to add a new dimension of meaning. They have chosen this cause because it fulfills a need to be doing something that they consider in the best interests of humanity. Have they really investigated this particular cause and read the literature so that they can answer questions about what they believe? I have noticed that from Laurie David on down they do not seem to wish to debate their ideas. Many use phrases like”the debate is over.” Columnist Ellen Goodman has even compared global warming dissenters to Holocaust deniers which I have responded to in this website.

The “global warming as a religion” section covers how heresy is dealt with. Some are the true believers who have embraced a cause not by reason and evidence but through faith. Faith is really a matter of believing what someone else has told you whether from the distant past or the present. Read the “scientists who disagree with the orthodoxy,” page for other ideas about global warming and climate change. This presents information from credentialed scientists who dispute man-made global warming.

Like Al Gore, Laurie David, Sheryl Crow, and Leonardo DiCaprio, I am not a credentialed scientist. The mission of the website is to bring the other side of the debate, which should not be over, to the public. There is an advanced organizer at the top so that a fuller understanding of the issues about climate change and global warming are presented in an organized way. Please look at the other web sites that have articles and papers by credentialed scientists, that are listed on this site. Check the video page also.

Nat Trayger Ed.D (Doctor of Education, Curriculum and Instruction)

I seems like the only truth to global warming depends upon your personal opinion and nothing else. We have replaced “facts” with “opinions”. Opinion is the new fact, “I belive it so it must be real” When are we going to see some “real” facts.

The best information will be culled from a lively debate that includes all sides.

Sure. The denialists can start publishing scientific articles any day now. Them the science can start to have a debate. The denialists on blogs? Eh. Whatever. They can continue to aver that science offers “proof” while society debates adaptation and mitigation.

Best,

D

Mr. Schmitt makes some worthwhile points regarding mapping. When he says, “If I were to make a sketch of the region on such a typical summer day I would come up with pretty much the same blank spaces that I see in the Hofer document. The same mountains, headlands, peninsulas, glaciers and ice shelves would be missing from my sketch.”, he is also inferring that he believes viewing conditions and thus climatic conditions now are the same as they were back in 1957.

Incidentially, and I know it is just weather, here is a link that Alaska had a record April snowfall on the 26th.

//www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/387743.html

Elery

Andy,
In true journalistic fashion you seem to be trying to create controversy where none exists. Schmitt’s rather rambling response could hardly be called a ‘rebuttal’. There can be no doubt that Greenland has warmed in recent years, but also no doubt that Greenland was just as warm around the 1940s at it is today. (J. Box, 2002, International Journal of Climatology, vol 22 page 1829, “The warmest years in Greenland were 1932, 1947, 1960, and 1941″.) So it’s very likely the island was also ice-free then. Schmitt doesnt deny this. And nobody is calling the Times article a ‘hoax’.

I am a former engineer with a meteorological hobby dating back to my hs years. I am unconvinced that the presence of feedback mechanisms will render climate change a self-limiting process — more heat, more water vapor/clouds, less sunlight ultimately abosrbed, etc.
Clearly there is an alarmist tendency — after all, its been said for decades, maybe centuries, that winters were colder in the speakers younger days (those were the days!).

i’m beginning to wonder whether CO2 rather than actual pollutants (after all CO2 is part of the life cycle of living things)has become the problem du jour as a distraction — an incurable problem to inhibit other solutions

It is getting warmer; that is a fact. It is not necessary to debate facts, and it is wrong to support such a debate.

Climate modeling shows that a significant part of this warming is due to anthropogenic causes. If the modeling results are denied, then it follows that the warming could be all natural. Would it not be better to emphasize topics that contribute to an understanding of what is involved in the modeling?

I enjoyed Ludwig and Trayger’s comments a lot! Finally people with scientific knowledge/understanding talk their mind. I am a neurophysiologist, not an environmentalist, but from reading the science that is related to the topic of human cause of global worming, it just absolutely doesn’t hold.

In science the debate is never over, and resumes whenever someone has new evidence.

In policy, the debate is over when a preponderance of evidence emerges. There is a preponderance of evidence for warming. There is substantial, but not conclusive, evidence in favor of the hypothesis that warming is anthropogenic. The various climate models agree with naive expectation that emitting CO_2 warms climate. They disagree by about a factor of three by how much, which demonstrates that they have cannot make quantitative predictions.

Nothing we (Americans) can do will make much difference because of the rapid increase in emissions by developing countries. We should resist the biofuels boondoggle, which doesn’t reduce net CO_2 emission and has contributed to hunger in poor countries and inflation at home by increasing the price of food (as well as our tax burden for the necessary subsidies).

Fortunately, mankind can and will adapt as it has done in the past. The late Medieval warm period is called a climatic optimum for a good reason. Global warming lenghtens growing seasons in temperate and subpolar regions, without making hotter climates (or temperate summers) hotter. That is mostly a good thing.

The deniers are an interesting lot…advocacy science, whatever the term.

I too am not a climate scientist but I feel my years as an engineer and my grad school work in environmental studies allows me to jump into the debate with some minor qualifications.

That said, my largest concern is that the deniers are “paid” by corporate interests or others who benefit from muddying the issues.

Global climate denialists are purposely trying to muddy public opinion on climate change. Unfortunately the denialists do not use sound science or debate economics or policy using peer-reviewed presentations. Instead they throw out biased opinions and, when they are challenged on their credentials or the basis of their scientific reasoning, they ask that their opinions be examined separate from their methods or backgrounds. The scientific, economic, policy or academic professions require a peer-reviewed process for postulating theories. In short, and as silly or simplistic as it may sound, you have to talk the talk before you walk the walk. Anyone can say the sky is green and ask that everyone listen to their claims that the sky is green but I prefer to hear the scientific reasoning behind why they think the sky is green.

Case in point is the Heartland Institute and the Natural Resources Stewardship Project. These think tanks spout opinions that global climate change is not anthropogenic (human caused) but rather a natural cycle and not to be feared. If you question their scientific abilities or methods to present such conclusions you are considered a left-wing environment crusader. When you ask about their funding they claim their corporate donors need to remain anonymous and that the money does not bias their positioned opinion.

The simple policy concerns are this. There is no debate that global climate change is occurring and at rates alarming faster than any time in recorded history, “recorded history” for scientists being millions of years. There is little doubt that the ever increasing outputs from fossil fueled power plants and the transportation sector, which themselves are expanding at incredible rates, upset the ecological stability of our atmosphere, oceans and land. China and other globalizing countries with little or no environmental regulation expand coal fired power and automobile usage accelerating GHG emissions and thus accelerating global climate change. We can attempt to change our energy production and usage or we can listen to paid denialists. There are economically viable ways to alter energy production and usage but established energy corporations see that shift as a threat to their corporate profits. I say ignore their funded opinions and our children will thank us for not failing to act.

Andrew,
You just posted that you have limited time for Dot Earth and you need to pull back etc…all understandable.

What isn’t understandable is why Dot Earth is dedicating valuable resources to such utterly meaningless nonsense.

You conclude:
“In the end, such fights can distract from the clarity of the long-term picture of a world in flux for centuries to come under a building human influence on climate (and biology, oceans, and landscapes).”

Are you trying to be ironic?

Despite the irony of giving acknowledged distractions air time – might I suggest an edit to rephrase it such:

In the end, such fights can distract from the clarity of the short-term picture of a world in flux for decades to come under building catastrophic human influence on climate and its inhabitants (our children, our grandchildren and countless generations to come).”

This isn’t an abstract, academic fight about “landscapes” and “biology”! This is about our children’s and grand children’s survival.

Andy,
Far more interesting than this kind of tug of war over global warming is the science itself

Yesterday I was biking on Cape Cod and spent a couple of hours in Woods Hole. I’m always amazed at how such a little village with its quaint little harbor can be such an enormous engine of knowledge. Only a few blocks in any direction, the center of Woods Hole holds the buildings and docks of several world renowned research institutes: the Marine Biological Laboratory, the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute (WHOI), NOAA Marine Fisheries Service. The National Academy of Sciences has a conference center a mile or so away. In Woods Hole both the dramatic, headline grabbing Eureka moments and the slow drip of science are a way of life.

Back at home, I’ve been looking at the websites of these organizations, particularly their climate change research. WHOI scientists were involved in the recently reported study of rapid draining of glacier meltwater lakes, but WHOI is also studying the transport of carbon sediments by ocean currents. The MBL Ecosystem Center is involved with the Arctic Long Term Ecological Research (LTER) site on Alaska’s North Slope whose website has a dramatic photo and report of the largest tundra fire ever recorded on the North Slope. In 2007 “during an unusually warm, dry summer,” well over 200,000 acres burned until late September after a mid-July lightning strike. A less dramatic report describes a recently conducted study of carbon processing by plant roots and transport underground to soil, microbes, water and gases. The researchers are now analyzing the results and preparing papers.

It was a good deed to give Dennis Schmitt a forum to respond to Patrick Michaels since Michaels doesn’t offer one, we need to see less of the tug of war and more of the real evolving science as scientists strive to fill in gaps in data and missing links in climate models, and to understand feedbacks and the coupled dynamics of land, air and water.

Anecdotal information can be great to illuminate, but as we have seen the use of such tactics cuts both ways in a debate. But then again when he have an issue that involves energy, the planet, humans, and various eco-system so there are going to be arguments on lesser known issues.

Andrew Revkin apparently wishes to view global warming as “fixed dogma”- despite Dennis Schmitt’s reservations concerning such an approach. I think that it is important to study rreal climate changes in order to see how they fit in to the long term human caused climate change scenario. Such studies may be messy and murky, but they are DATA, and need to be treated with appropriate respect. They may prove to be at least as important as the mathematical models, from which adherents of human caused warming tend to extract the worst case scenarios.
Bernard Chasan

i agree wholeheartedly with poster #2 and others, and especially with dr. schmitt:

“The irony in all of this is that I do not subscribe to the theories of climate change when presented in a doctrinaire way. I see climate change as a nonlinear problem of multiple interactive variables with no absolutely proven outcome. These variables include volcanic out gassing, Milankovich cycles, tectonic plate movements, solar variability, meteor impacts, comet tails, albedo, oceanic circulation, topography, a variety of hidden threshold effects, biological evolution and human technology. The problem has been streamlined with computer models that limit variable participation to generate predictions. This gives us some solid betting odds that we could well put our money on. But the complexities doom us to many probable reversals that may disappoint us if we come to depend on an “ideology of global warming” for our psychological well being. To turn “global warming” into a fixed dogma is to subject it to the same sort of intellectual deterioration as we have seen with the various tenets of “political correctness.” It is important to resist the temptation to press closure on this topic. It is important to listen to the critics.”

the headline of this thread, rather than “arctic explorer rebuts warming critique,” ought to be “arctic explorer rebuts co2 religionists.”

thank you, dr. schmitt!

Well, “advocacy science” means he’s acting like an advocate, finding and presenting what his clients need to avoid conviction. So be it. Mr. Michaels shows a picture of a map — it has two islands on it.

The original NYT article as corrected also says
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“Hans Jepsen is a cartographer at the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland …. Last summer, he spotted several new islands in an area where a massive ice shelf had broken up. Mr. Jepsen was unaware of Mr. Schmitt’s discovery, and an old aerial photograph in his files showed the peninsula intact.

“Clearly, the new island was detached from the mainland when the connecting glacier-bridge retreated southward,” Mr. Jepsen said, adding that future maps would take note of the change.
———————

Perhaps Mr. Michaels is saying that an ice shelf or glacial ice can disappear and reappear like a fogbank? This would be great news, if publishable.

Could the NYT inquire of the publisher of that map whether they still have the material on file from which the book was produced? It’d be nice to know what the rough drafts look like.

Mike Sulzer states, “It is getting warmer; that is a fact. It is not necessary to debate facts, and it is wrong to support such a debate.” I agree that it is getting warmer, and that debating that fact is not needed. Unfortunately, that fact is not the most interesting or important one when discussing global warming. If it could be stated that we completely understand why it is getting warmer, then that phase of the debate would be over. The debate would then revolve around what to do about it. We cannot effectively do something about the warming until we understand why there is warming.

Mr. Sulzer points out that it is a good idea to know what is involved in modeling the climate. I agree, because then we could have a discussion about the science that is included in the models and the science that is excluded.

I would like to ask Jonathan Katz why he thinks that “biofuels … (do not) reduce CO2 emissions”? The next crop absorbs carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. There may be some net carbon dioxide released to the atmosphere when the fuel is transported to the fueling station or during cultivation, but that doesn’t have to be the case. After the first crop is harvested, the fuel could be used to cultivate and transport the next crop. Algae could be grown for the purposes of making biofuel, which would virtually eliminate competition with food.

I’m quite impatient to see how Mr Michael, Cato Institute and Heartland Institute will explain us the next Artic sea ice disappearance. Have they started designing their powerpoint slides?
…well, I’m not that impatient after all, having no more ice up there…

After reading the article I planned to comment but Ludwig, #2, in these comments says it perfectly. I could not improve upon his input and I congratulate him. The following is not meant as an improvement but as an addition. If one postulates that the global average surface temperature tracks the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere, possibly with some delay, then when the CO2 concentration continues to rise monotonically but the global average surface temperature shows fluctuations as a function of time with changes in slope (periods wherein it decreases), then you must throw the postulate away. It simply is inconsistent and therefore is not the controlling factor in global average surface temperature. I don’t understand how the AGW folks can continue to press a failed hypothesis if they want to be taken seriously.

Schmitt says it perfectly in one paragraph and then falls off the boat in the next.

We need a hypothesis that holds up and is consistent with observation. We do not yet have it. Sunspots and related phenomena seem to work perfectly as far as the limited historical data allows, but certainly the jury is not in. It is time for serious debate with all sides represented.

The Cato Institute once again comes through with a poorly thought out document that is thoroughly trounched with people actually on the ground.

There was a good point made about anecdotal evidence and thus fully describes Elery’s wholly ignorant post about a record snowfall. But thanks Elery, many climate models predict more snow in some regions.

To Ludwig, Katz said that biofuels don’t reduce the net emissions which is true. As you mentioned algae is a good source for this but will only level off fuel CO2 theoretically. If we want a net reduction we must do something that removes CO2 over decades, ie planting trees.

A good article because of an even better commentary

All I can think is that these ‘deniers’ have never travelled, have never seen the world. I have gone from Beirut to Manila and back again since 1960, and the destruction of our earth by humans is overwhelming. I don’t understand the deniers, other than to think they are making money from their opinions. Thank you, Andrew Revkin, for your efforts in this Blog, please keep going as long as you can, or appoint a qualified successor to keep up this valuable site.

It seems that the 1950s schematic map is a rough sketch of what one sees from the air on a foggy day, so the absence of a land bridge to Warming Island doesn’t prove that the sketcher saw water there … just a gap in the ridgelines. (Schmitt’s point is well-taken that it seems silly to regard as hard data a map that entirely omits larger island land masses nearby.)

The real question is whether topographical readings of the area were taken sometime in the 1940s to 1960s, when there was a sustained warming trend in the region comparable to the present. If there is a hard data gap for this period, then Cato has done a positive service (for once) by pointing out that Warming Island might also have been disconnected from the land in this period … thus deflating the landmark’s “poster child” status as an indication of unusual climate change.

Which, of course, was Cato’s whole goal in the first place … as ideological shills for unrestrained, blind capitalism.

If anyone wants to take a little time to get above the fray over whether there is or is not global warming, I thought I’d alert those interested in a possible larger question that we might be asking at this juncture in our history. The question is simply shouldn’t there be a strategic vision (plan) for humanity? What kind of world do we want? What kind can we have in light of physical reality?

I’ve been blogging on the nature of governance and markets and how we are currently failing to address the global issues that need attention. I invite any interested readers to visit the site and possibly add to the conversation.

You can find it at:
questioneverything DOT typepad DOT com
(hot links, unfortunately, don’t work sometimes!)

Regards

George