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== Nomination for deletion of Template:Module:Find sources/templates/Find sources ==
[[File:Ambox warning blue.svg|30px|link=]][[Module:Find sources/templates/Find sources]] has been [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion|nominated for deletion]]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 February 15#Module:Find sources/templates/Find sources|the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page]].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> [[User:Pppery|&#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|talk]]) 22:00, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 
== Add [[Library Genesis]]? ==
 
I increasingly find [[Library Genesis]] to be a very helpful search engine for academic papers, more so than Google Books. In particular, it excells at finding book reviews. Ex. compare [http:/<u>blacklisted_domain_removed</u>/scimag/?q=Groundswell.+Winning+in+a+World+Transformed+by+Social+Technologies LG] return hits and [https://scholar.google.co.kr/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Groundswell.+Winning+in+a+World+Transformed+by+Social+Technologies&btnG= Google Scholar]. I first noticed it few weeks ago while looking for reviews for [[The Expanding Circle: Ethics and Sociobiology|this book]] I wrote an entry on. If anyone is concerned about legality, note that LG has been mentioned at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request]] (with a caution note) for quite a while now, with no objections/controversy. We could add a link to such note to the template through a tiny hperlink to address any related concerns. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 04:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 
== Have ==
 
been planning on adding Sage and Cambridge Core. Any objections? [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style="color: red">&#x222F;</span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:#070">WBG</b></span>]][[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<sup><span style="color:#00F">converse</span></sup>]] 06:52, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
:Fine with me. No objections, just like I presume no objections to my proposal above. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 05:34, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 
== Inclusion of ''NYT'' ==
 
I don't particularly have an issue with it, but I do want to just bring up for discussion the fact that the ''[[NYT]]'' is the only newspaper included with this template. While it is probably true that the ''NYT'' has the best claim to being the newspaper of record for the English speaking world, I'm saying that as an American, and I can imagine those in other English speaking countries objecting that the ''NYT'' is not the best source for them, and that perhaps another paper should be included, or that no specific paper should be included, so that Google News (a more dynamic way to find a quality source, but also not as curated) can be used instead. I guess my point is mainly that this template in some way implies that we're endorsing the ''NYT'' over every other newspaper, and while in a practical sense that's probably the reasonable thing to do for the situations this template is used for, we should at least have some discussion to establish a consensus. (Also, as a minor cosmetic note, ''NYT'' ought to be italicized, and I'd appreciate someone with template editing privileges making that fix.) - [[User:Sdkb|Sdkb]] ([[User talk:Sdkb|talk]]) 05:27, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 
== Excluding non-Wikipedia source ==
 
I noticed the template's Google news search excludes [https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/sungwon-cho-used-to-make-goofy-voices-for-fun-now-hes-got-millions-of-fans-fandom-files-ep this article], though the word 'wikipedia' does not seem to appear anywhere in it.
 
See: {{find sources|SungWon Cho used to make goofy voices}}
 
[[User:Oornery|Oornery]] ([[User talk:Oornery|talk]])
:{{ping|Oornery}} My best guess as to why this happens is that when Google crawled that page, it contained the text "Wikipedia", but it doesn't contain it any more. (Maybe it appeared in the "latest articles" feed or something like that.) However, if you notice a pattern of this occurring, it might be a good idea to report it to Google, as it might be a problem with their algorithm. — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr.&nbsp;Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪&nbsp;talk&nbsp;♪]]</sup> 01:29, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 
== Internet Archive? ==
 
I use [[Internet Archive]] all the time to look for sources, especially on old topics. Would it make sense to include a full-text search of [https://archive.org/ archive.org] on this template? [[User:AleatoryPonderings|AleatoryPonderings]] ([[User talk:AleatoryPonderings|talk]]) 20:57, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
:Hmm, interesting thought. I do get a lot of sources value out of the Internet Archive, but I also see it as sort of a more advanced tool less essential than some of the others listed. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 01:44, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
::Fair enough—certainly a bit clunkier to use, too. Just a thought. [[User:AleatoryPonderings|AleatoryPonderings]] ([[User talk:AleatoryPonderings|talk]]) 02:53, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 
== Template-protected edit request on 24 July 2020 ==
 
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Please italicize {{tq|NYT}} per [[MOS:ITALICS]], since it's an abbreviation of the name of a newspaper. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 01:47, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
:Sorry, I don't see the guidance you are referring to. Can you please quote the relevant MOS guidance? Thanks. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 03:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
::{{u|Jonesey95}}, sure:
{{tqb|Italics should be used for the following types of names and titles, or abbreviations thereof:
*'''Major works of art and artifice''', such as albums, books, video games, films, musicals, operas, symphonies, paintings, sculptures, newspapers,...}}
::<span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 05:15, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
:{{to|Sdkb|Jonesey95}} {{done|done}}, and also in {{tl|Find video game sources}}. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&nbsp;&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'r&nbsp;there</sup>]]&nbsp;<small>08:20, 24 July 2020 (UTC)</small>