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How long is the Columbus mammoth foot 107.127.28.14 (talk) 14:06, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not aware of sources that give such specific measurements, as goes for most creatures, they would be given for individual foot bones. FunkMonk (talk) 16:08, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Timing

Reading Evolution and dispersal of mammoths across the Northern Hemisphere again, it implies that the species Mammuthus columbi only applies to remains of Late Pleistocene age. I don't known what this implies for the classification of remains of North American mammoths between 1.5 and 0.1 Ma, the earliest of which presumably were not a hybrid species (at least not with the woolly mammoth, anyway), but also implies that M. columbi is basically indistinguishable from M. trogontherii. Does this warrant changing the fossilrange in the taxobox or not? Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:25, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Being from 2015, I it's too early to take into account the latest DNA papers, and now it's still very early days when it comes to concluding what these hybridisation findings will actually mean for mammoth taxonomy. So I think we need to wait for new publications. I can imagine it will take years for the dust to settle. Also, you removed the statement that the DNA analysed teeth were steppe mammoth-like, which I've re-added, since it's pretty important.FunkMonk (talk) 13:04, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think Lister is spot-on when he calls mammoths effectively a continuous metapopulation rather than neatly divided species. I'm satisfied with the content of the article as it currently stands. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but that doesn't translate well into clean cut traditional taxonomy. The name M. columbi would have to be arbitrarily retained instead of synonymised, which is de facto the case now. FunkMonk (talk) 20:43, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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	:: I think Lister is spot-on when he calls mammoths effectively a continuous [[metapopulation]] rather than neatly divided species. I'm satisfied with the content of the article as it currently stands. [[User:Hemiauchenia\|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia\|talk]]) 18:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)		:: I think Lister is spot-on when he calls mammoths effectively a continuous [[metapopulation]] rather than neatly divided species. I'm satisfied with the content of the article as it currently stands. [[User:Hemiauchenia\|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia\|talk]]) 18:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
			:::Yeah, but that doesn't translate well into clean cut traditional taxonomy. The name ''M. columbi'' would have to be arbitrarily retained instead of synonymised, which is de facto the case now. [[User:FunkMonk\|FunkMonk]] ([[User talk:FunkMonk\|talk]]) 20:43, 1 March 2023 (UTC)