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Hi! This is my talk page, feel free to drop me a message. To experienced editors: feel free to stalk my talk page and reply to any threads here.To admins: I prefer that my talk page remain unprotected, even if it's being vandalized. Such edits do not particularly bother me and I prefer to remain accessible to anyone who would like to reach me. However, if the volume of vandalism is so high that no other solution would stop disruption, I don't mind if my talk page is semi-protected for a day or two. Hopefully, this is a rare occurrence.

Whether to take your advice seriously

Per discussions at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 April 26, the two cover arts of You'll Never Get to Heaven (If You Break My Heart) have been deleted without opposition.

If you feel deleting those covers was a mistake, please contact the deleting admin (Fastily) or have those deletions reviewed at WP:DRV. Otherwise, why take your advice seriously that you gave me, i.e. telling me to discontinue replacing cover arts, if you're unwilling to challenge the deletions? George Ho (talk) 03:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@George Ho: I wasn't notified of those FFD's and honestly am not interested in fighting with you about every cover art of every song. You know that the general community consensus is against you here and you've acknowledged as much; this isn't an area I care passionately about. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then I insist that you don't tell me anymore to stop. All right? George Ho (talk) 03:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@George Ho: again, this isn't something I want to spend time debating. You know that I think you should stop such edits, and when I see edits you make that I find problematic, I will challenge them. My intent isn't to hound you, though. That doesn't mean I agree with your edits, just that I have better things to do. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

when I see edits you make that I find problematic, I will challenge them. How else will you challenge my edits then? ANI? ArbCom? Also, I don't have to invite you to FFD discussions, including ones I started, right?

My intent isn't to hound you, though. That doesn't mean I agree with your edits, just that I have better things to do. I dunno. Your intent to challenge my edits make what I'm quoting self-contradictory, eh? George Ho (talk) 07:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@George Ho: no, you don't have to invite me to discussions (though you should have notified me of the discussion for the files I challenged your CSD's on).

Your intent to challenge my edits make what I'm quoting self-contradictory, eh? No. I am not going to look through your edits regularly and challenge anything I find objectionable, but if I happen to come across edits from you that are problematic, I will challenge them. This is how I interact with basically everyone on the project.

Do you want me to take you to ANI? Elli (talk | contribs) 07:10, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(though you should have notified me of the discussion for the files I challenged your CSD's on) I can't help wonder why you've not participate in FFD discussions as much as you want.

Do you want me to take you to ANI? Not necessarily. Actually, I really think you didn't have to challenge my edits just because you think general consensus wouldn't go along with my edits. WP:EDITCONSENSUS and/or WP:DISCUSSCONSENSUS should help you decide whether or not to challenge them.

If edits I made aren't challenged, then consensus (favoring edits on certain articles) would be implied... right? I took this as true in certain cases. Since you're not willing to challenge the deletions, I can imply "no contest" from you this time.

Honestly, my issue with "general consensus" is their high emphases on rock songs and classics that still attract later generations to this day. The editors never seem to care much about perspectives of consumers from the past and intent of those who distributed singles in the vinyl era. Even WikiProject Music/Album/Songs members seem to be fans of rock or highly-popular classics or first-run contemporaries... or Madonna? George Ho (talk) 07:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

this isn't an area I care passionately about. If the area you were referring to is cover arts or music, then why trying to follow what you assume is usual "consensus" and then challenge my edits?

~~Again, if you're not that passionate, then try to stay out of my hair please, including areas that I'm interested in. All right? George Ho (talk) 15:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC)~~ Striking out my shameful comment; see more at ANI (diff). —George Ho (talk) 00:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 2010 Oklahoma State Question 755

On 15 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 2010 Oklahoma State Question 755, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the U.S. state of Oklahoma was not allowed to ban Sharia law? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/2010 Oklahoma State Question 755. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 2010 Oklahoma State Question 755), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

		Hook update
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Question from PrinceofPunjab (11:45, 15 May 2024)

Hello,

I wanted to ask that If a source website is asking for cookies does that means it should be removed ? Also, do website necessarily needs to be related to the subject of the article or a simple news article who also confirms the information will also work ?

Thank You. --PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PrinceofPunjab: hi. No, a website doesn't need to be removed because it wants to set cookies. Also not exactly sure what your second question is asking. Independent secondary sources that contain significant coverage are preferable, but passing mentions of some details can also be fine, so long as the detail is noteworthy enough for inclusion. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Elli I asked the second question due to this edit by an user who removed a source from Sports news website of a major newspaper claiming it was asking for cookies and therefore only tennis related sources be cited in this article. I tried conversing the user but they are just set in their ways. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 04:34, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PrinceofPunjab: yeah, that site (part of The Hindu) appears to be reliable and whether it asks for cookies or not has literally nothing to do with it. Elli (talk | contribs) 13:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from A-Ousadden (19:54, 15 May 2024)

Hello. I created this account for the only purpose of renaming the English page about Theodore Kaczinski, because I find it disrespectful to his memory to call him first "Ted". His nickname refers to his illegal activities but as he is presumed to be one of the brightest human beings ever born, he deserves more than that. I do not find it fair as the nickname "Ted" was the one the FBI gave him. It would be nice if you could remove the nickname for the title page and the paragraphs that use it abusively. --A-Ousadden (talk) 19:54, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@A-Ousadden: hi; thanks for reaching out. You can open a requested move at Talk:Ted Kaczynski. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Car man311 (20:59, 24 May 2024)

I've just started on WIki. I need help from other to build a page and understand the best way to do it.... --Car man311 (talk) 20:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Car man311: hi; Help:Your first article has some instructions on how to write a page. Elli (talk | contribs) 13:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:DeSantis–Newsom debate

Hello, Elli. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "DeSantis–Newsom debate".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Its mirza baig khan mughal on User:Its mirza baig khan mughal (04:19, 1 June 2024)

What is it --Its mirza baig khan mughal (talk) 04:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template editing query

Hello -- with your template editing hat on, I wonder if you could take a look at Template talk:Infobox poem#Oral poetry? I think similar features already exist in e.g. Template:Infobox military person, but I'm not sure I'm able (both permissions-wise and technically) to replicate them here. Would be a great help with the Homeric Hymns article, and other ancient poems of similar authorship. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 10:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Aspen85 (13:27, 1 June 2024)

Hi! I am pretty new to Wikipedia and all but,I was wondering, how do those 'blue words' on the pages actually become linked? I tried it on a page which needed links but it didn't work. Could you kindly tell me how exactly do those words get linked? --Aspen85 (talk) 13:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aspen85: ah, I see the issue. You attempted to use the entire URL of the page when adding a link, but you should actually only use the page title (do [[Terraform (software)|Terraform]], not [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraform_(software)|Terraform]]. I've fixed it for you at Platform engineering. Please let me know if you have any more questions :) Elli (talk | contribs) 13:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! Aspen85 (talk) 13:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I have another question. When I clicked on the Platform engineering link, I had noticed that half of the page was gone including the Terraform link. Can you tell me why this happened? Aspen85 (talk) 13:10, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aspen85: if you look at the article's history, you can see the different edits people have made. Not all of them had edit summaries so I can't tell you why all of them were made, though; you'd have to ask those editors. Elli (talk | contribs) 13:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have typed a message on to the page, and I had found out it was copyrighted. There was a comment suggesting to remove the legal part of the page. I have a teeny tiny question about that. Wouldn't we be making the page illegal if we removed the copyright part? Aspen85 (talk) 14:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aspen85: external copyrighted content isn't allowed in Wikipedia pages (except in very narrow circumstances), so removing that content is necessary. Elli (talk | contribs) 14:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. Thanks for letting me know. Aspen85 (talk) 14:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Bookworm8142 (18:22, 1 June 2024)

Hello! I not-so-recently edited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/365.bank,_a._s. and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysochus_cobaltinus I would just like to get some additional feedback/advice as well as some tips on how to improve.

These were my first edits ever to Wikipedia, and although they were modest, I'm actually kinda proud :D. However, because they were my first edits, I will gladly accept any help you can give me.

This is a repost because my previous mentor did not respond, nor offer any guidance.

Thanks again! --Bookworm8142 (talk) 18:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bookworm8142: thanks for reaching out! Your edits look alright. The only issue is that on Chrysochus cobaltinus, there usually shouldn't be links in the bolded text in the lead (MOS:BOLDLINK). Also, make sure you aren't linking too much (but I don't think you did in that edit). Elli (talk | contribs) 13:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a bunch! I will make sure to double check if it's bolded next time. I was worried about the overlinking but what I tried to do was to see if there was already a link with that information, and if there was, to avoid relinking it.

Thanks again! Bookworm8142 (talk) 15:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Hrspks (08:46, 4 June 2024)

Hello! I started on Wikipedia because I noticed a couple of articles missing from the Hungarian site, that I wanted to translate. I also see many opportunities for the opposite, there is a lot of information about Hungary and it's culture that is not translated to English. I would really like to translate some of these, but I do not yet have permissions to add translations to English Wikipedia.

What are the steps for getting there? I did start making edits adding information to English Wikipedia where I can, but I don't understand the process that well. --Hrspks (talk) 08:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Taiwo Jamiu on Talk:Northumbria University (15:16, 4 June 2024)

Hello . I'm Taiwo from Nigeria. I will like to pay school fees from Nigeria. Can you get me the account i will pay money into ? And I will like to have WhatsApp number of the school to conversation about the school progress --Taiwo Jamiu (talk) 15:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Taiwo Jamiu: hi; unfortunately this isn't something Wikipedia can really help you with. Their website is at [1] and you might be able to find something there? Elli (talk | contribs) 16:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An inappropriately premature congratulations

I'll be going to bed shortly, and if I leave it until the morning it will only be appropriately premature, which wouldn't do at all. Welcome to the corps, I look forward to working with you. Feel free to ping me if you ever need any guidance; I probably won't know what to do either, but there's a decent chance I'll know someone else to ping! Good luck! Girth Summit _(blether) 21:02, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Girth Summit: thanks! Elli (talk | contribs) 16:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Taiwo komolafe on User:TemitopeKT (06:13, 7 June 2024)

Hi Ki ni itumo ayajo --Taiwo komolafe (talk) 06:13, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How to be an Admin

How do I become an admin? Chris denny 4840 (talk) 10:54, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) @Chris denny 4840: Edit quietly, be polite, talk only when spoken to, chew your food with your mouth closed, and then come back and ask in five years. It's a very long-term process. Happy editing! ——Serial Number 54129 16:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats

Congratulations for passing your RFA and welcome to adminship, and for doing it in style. Someone will doubtless turn up soon with your Tshirt. When you get bored scrabbling down the back of the sofa hunting for the most apt block reason, feel free to rummage in my monobook where some kind sole put the code for a dropdown menu. Happy adminning! Ϣere SpielChequers 16:31, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WereSpielChequers: thanks for flipping the bit for me ;) Elli (talk | contribs) 16:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are most welcome. I'm sure you'll be fine, but feel free to ask if you ever need advice. Ϣere SpielChequers 17:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Questions from a new user

Hello, you were assigned as my mentor, and I have a question, I want to contribute, but just in a more minor way at first, what should I look for? (Also congrats on adminship!) MrMcOrange (talk) 16:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MrMcOrange: hi! It really depends on what your skills and interests are, but finding and fixing small errors in pages can be a good start. Elli (talk | contribs) 16:53, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay thanks, and I'll take some time over the summer to better learn the way Wiki editing works! MrMcOrange (talk) 16:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MrMcOrange: Sounds good; feel free to let me know if you have any more questions :) Elli (talk | contribs) 16:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on your reduced PERM assignment

Re: log 162539525. Welcome to the admin corps!

– robertsky (talk) 17:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Robertsky: thanks! Elli (talk | contribs) 17:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A baton for you!

The new admin baton

After circling the new admin track for a record 3 months and 21 days, it is my great privilege to pass off the new admin baton to you. Congratulations on your wildly successful RfA, the first to pass under the discussion period trial! Please enjoy this ~~hazing ritual~~ rite of passage, holding the baton closely in your care, and be sure to hydrate with electrolytes every third lap or so. Let's hope you don't get stuck on the track for too long. Exhaustedly, Sdkb ^talk 18:20, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sdkb: thanks! Looking forward to passing it on soon :) Elli (talk | contribs) 18:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for stepping up to get the bit, and congratulations on your successful RfA! Elli, I'm sure you'll do very well, thanks again! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 21:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Congratulations on passing RfA! Sorry, but I just couldn't resist using a cat for the wikilove. I know you know why. ;)

Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 00:14, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To people who don't understand what I'm getting at here, I have a pet cat named Ellie. I happen to think it's a good name for humans, too. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 00:38, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]