User talk:Jcelto

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Happy editing! Suonii180 (talk) 23:41, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

January 2022

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thanks for stepping up your anti-vandalism work! When you become auto-confirmed, it will probably be easier if you use a tool like Twinkle or RedWarn. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 23:52, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For a new user helping to remove and reduce vandalisms, thanks for your contributions! –Ctrlwiki (talk) 02:58, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Postterm pregnancy

Hi Jcelto. Welcome to Wikipedia. I see you've been making some useful improvements and also monitoring recent changes to look out for vandal and nonsense edits. You popped up on my radar at the article postterm pregnancy when I saw you had twice quickly reverted an IP who was changing some gender-neutral language like "pregnant person" to "woman". Be very careful reverting anyone more than once like this. As you are doing lots of reverts, Wikipedia:Edit warring is essential reading. As the guideline says, repeatedly reverting another editor (named or IP) is warring, and you can get into trouble even if you think your change was right. There are a very small number of exceptions noted in the guideline, such as obvious vandal fighting.

If you look at the history of postterm pregnancy, you'll see that an IP editor changed the article on the 5th Jan to be gender neutral ("pregnant people", etc). Then on the 28th, another IP changed some of the text back to saying "woman". I reckon you saw their edits on "Recent changes" and you reverted their edit very quickly. But the current consensus of editors on Wikipedia does not permit completely changing sex-related health/medicine articles to be gender-neutral (the discussion is here). So I think it is very likely that another editor or IP will soon change the article back to consistently saying "women", and it would be unwise to revert them. There are ongoing discussions about how best to handle sex/gender words in such articles. There are strong views on both sides of the argument and no easy solution that keeps everyone happy.

Let me know if you have any questions about these points. I'll watchlist your user talk page for a wee while, or you can post on my user talk page if you want. Cheers, Colin°^Talk 21:59, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Thanks for letting me know that I reverted it twice, I remember reverting it once so thanks for pointing this out as I know a third revert is considered an edit war. And also thank you for directing me to Gender-neutral language in human sex-specific articles. Jcelto (talk) 01:58, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite. The guideline says "The three-revert rule is a convenient limit for occasions when an edit war is happening fairly quickly; it is not a definition of "edit warring", and it is absolutely possible to engage in edit warring without breaking the three-revert rule, or even coming close to doing so." Essentially, if your revert of someone is itself reverted, you can't just put it back again except for a very few situations. You need to take a different approach (such as discussing on the talk page, or alerting a noticeboard or project in order to get other people looking at it, etc). -- Colin°^Talk 08:20, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]