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Request
[edit]Hello! I have a request, and thought you might be the best person to ask here on Wikivoyage for either information on where to make this sort of request, or if you could assist me directly with it.
I know you're aware of syntax errors collectively called as Lint, and that I've been clearing these up here on Wikivoyage this past month. I've cleared about 75% of this site's 30k total errors so far, and have found there's a small set of pages (128; mostly talk pages/user pages) that have full page protection that I won't be able to clean without a little assistance. I wondered if you would be willing to lower these pages' protection levels temporarily (determination reserved by you on a page by page basis) to allow me temporary access to address their errors in an edit or two per page and then notify you when I'm done (less than 24hrs) so you can re-protect as needed/desired?
If there's any hesitation on my intentions or skill, I have had a similar arrangement with Primefac on the English Wikipedia where they allowed me to clear a few thousand Tidy Font (link color) errors in full protected Admin talk archives last fall, and I've been delinting on en.wiki for about two years.
I don't wish to request and edit all 128 pages in one go, so I thought I'd start my request with the 22 pages of most interest (highest quantity of lint, or are the last page or two of an error type sitewide):
User talk:Ikan Kekek/archive
User talk:ThunderingTyphoons!/Archive 3 (2019-2021)
User talk:ThunderingTyphoons!/Archive 2 (2016-2018)
User talk:SHB2000/Archive 2021
Talk:China/Archive 2013-2018
User talk:ArticCynda
User talk:Ibaman/Archive 2020
User talk:Libertarianmoderate
User:(WT-en) Admrboltz
User:(WT-en) ForestH2
User:(WT-en) Ksauerman
Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old
User talk:Ibaman/Archive 2019
User:(WT-en) Edmontonenthusiast
Wikivoyage talk:Wikitravel Press
User:(WT-en) DCetina
Talk:Asia/Archive 2003-2012
User talk:Peterfitzgerald/Archives (wts-old) 2007-2010
User:Sertmann
User:(WT-en) HappyV
User:(WT-en) Sibiryak
User:(WT-en) Moroccoexplored
Would these be fine? Happy to discuss any concerns or clarify any details, Zinnober9 (talk) 17:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Most of these pages really don't need to be read. I'm willing to let you edit my archive if you like, though, for whatever it's worth. Do I have to temporarily allow auto-confirmed users to edit it? Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:08, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek, Zinnober9: I assume this is because all of the pages are admin/template editor protected – I think the best port of call is for you to obtain temporary adminship (via WV:URN) and then fix all of those lint errors, while I've given you temp editor perms to edit some of them. Thanks again for all the work you've put in :-). --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 03:52, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- That makes sense. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:07, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- That is correct, admin/template editor protection levels and these pages are/were beyond my editing clearance. That's an interesting reply, not the direction I was expecting based on my en.wiki experiences, but each wiki is a little bit different with procedural things. I've been used to en.wiki's RFPP (Request For Page Protection) page for requesting protection adjustments +/- to various levels of protected pages, and been used to Primefac temporarily reducing/removing protection from pages I was interested in fixing (similar to how Ikan was thinking above I think?). Temporary Adminship wasn't on my radar, but if this is a standard sort of case, I'll look into that. Zinnober9 (talk) 06:43, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- In your case I'm almost certain that a 3-month-long temp adminship will almost pass – Ikan Kekek can probably attest to this that most of us here are far more relaxed about granting permissions to those have a valid use for them, unlike at enwiki (we're more like Commons in this regard, though even more so). --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 09:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've made the nomination at WV:URN. This seems like a good idea. Ground Zero (talk) 11:41, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sweet; I've given my word of support. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 11:52, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm honored, thank you. Do I need to make any introductory sort of statement there, or just watch that page and answer any questions that arise? Zinnober9 (talk) 06:53, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- The lattter, haha; we're super chill here so no need for any of that intro statements that you see on enwiki. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 07:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Some people have made a brief introductory statement, though. Since many people probably don't know you, it certainly wouldn't be out of line. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:35, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- I mean GZ's already made the brief intro statement anyway. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 08:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Some people have made a brief introductory statement, though. Since many people probably don't know you, it certainly wouldn't be out of line. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:35, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- The lattter, haha; we're super chill here so no need for any of that intro statements that you see on enwiki. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 07:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've made the nomination at WV:URN. This seems like a good idea. Ground Zero (talk) 11:41, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- In your case I'm almost certain that a 3-month-long temp adminship will almost pass – Ikan Kekek can probably attest to this that most of us here are far more relaxed about granting permissions to those have a valid use for them, unlike at enwiki (we're more like Commons in this regard, though even more so). --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 09:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek, Zinnober9: I assume this is because all of the pages are admin/template editor protected – I think the best port of call is for you to obtain temporary adminship (via WV:URN) and then fix all of those lint errors, while I've given you temp editor perms to edit some of them. Thanks again for all the work you've put in :-). --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 03:52, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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This Month in Education: August 2024
[edit]This Month in Education
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Deleting spam
[edit]Regarding Srgholiday(s515/.com): Isn't it overkill to revision delete spam? Deleting it increases the number of admin actions that are opaque to the general community (admin activity should be as transparent as possible) and hides the actions of the spammer (raising the bar for blocking or blacklisting them). What's the harm of leaving that spam visible in the revision history? If you think this needs doing, I think a discussion in the Pub is warranted. –LPfi (talk) 13:11, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- The nature of this spammer is no different to userpage spammers. I don't mind if you unrevdel it, but leaving the mass spam up only gives the spammer exactly what they want. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 13:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't understand. Our readers won't see the spam in old revisions. For user pages, the issue is about user pages for non-users, which we often delete as out of scope, which is another thing. If the user page is otherwise legitimate, we just remove the spam, with no deleting or hiding. –LPfi (talk) 14:29, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- As I said you're free to undelete it as you wish – we simply disagree on something where there isn't a clear policy on. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 21:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I self-reverted for now; not worth having a discussion on something where there is no clear policy on. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 23:20, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- As I said you're free to undelete it as you wish – we simply disagree on something where there isn't a clear policy on. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 21:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't understand. Our readers won't see the spam in old revisions. For user pages, the issue is about user pages for non-users, which we often delete as out of scope, which is another thing. If the user page is otherwise legitimate, we just remove the spam, with no deleting or hiding. –LPfi (talk) 14:29, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with LPfi here. Revdel should be used only when the text itself is highly objectionable -- racist, obscene, over-the-top agenda pushing, etc. -- not for mere spamming or even for denying recognition to vandals. Pashley (talk) 14:13, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Pashley, if you want to argue to not use revdel per WV:DENY for LTAs, start a discussion on Wikivoyage talk:Deny recognition instead of commenting on policies you clearly don't understand properly. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 21:30, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Link still spam blocked
[edit]Very (very!) belatedly, I've just tried to add the link discussed here, but it it still blocked. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Tout issue?
[edit]Is User:(WT-en) Fpatrick a WV:TOUT issue? It's got two lint issues, but if it's going to be blanked or revdel'd due to the content, I'll skip the delinting. Zinnober9 (talk) 09:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, I've deleted it as spam. Nice catch. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 09:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Great, thanks! Zinnober9 (talk) 16:55, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Another on User:(WT-en) منتديات البيان البورسعيدى talking about their linked forum/newspaper. Zinnober9 (talk) 19:26, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Others:
- Tourism agency on User:(WT-en) Le desert vit
- Restaurant on User:(WT-en) Restaurantkashmir
- Cell phone spam on User:(WT-en) Kalinka
- Tours on User:(WT-en) Tour Old Wilmington
- Tours on User:(WT-en) Bhutan2009
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- User:(WT-en) Hemraj is not very promotional, but does has work contact info, so less sure on this one. Zinnober9 (talk) 19:49, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- User:(WT-en) Hemraj doesn't have any contributions but their user page, so I think it can be deleted as user page of non-user. The contact info is probably out of date. –LPfi (talk) 20:00, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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