I seem to remember that kid seeming much cooler in the movie...That was the 90's I guess. Also, Arnie shouldn't be wasting the taxpayers money to "help" the children stay away from violent videogames, he should be using it for something better, like the massive power shortages they have been having the last few years.

what a fucking hypocrite

i watched terminator 1/2 and most of his other movies back when i was like 12

and how violent is "violent"? mario? jumping on goombas?

and like yesterday's story about this mentioned, the taxpayers are the ones shafted with the bill every time a law like this is found unconstitutional (which it is)

Hey ain't got no toilet paper...oh wait....we can just use this constitution!

This cracks me up, considering all games he was featured in were basically teen or maturely rated(when a rating system was available)... and the majority of his movies. But hey, the kids are going to learn of it eventually one way or another. As I've preached since day one on this subject... it's on the parents to uphold some kind of moral values.

I really do not see whats wrong with just the ESRB rating games.

I still find it amusing being "carded" in best buy by some pimpled faced kid.

So what's with all these liberals pretending to be conservatives?

I'm also looking at you, Bloomberg....

I think I'm fine with this, IF I can see a sample list of currently released video games that they deem 'Violent'. I think some games go far and above the ESRB M rating, but not quite in to AO territory (because of lack of nudity).

I think this is a decent idea that will get parents involved in to what their child is really buying, provided the rating is supervised by a decent board and not slapped on to everything. I can only think of a handful of games that would fall in to this category.

my bad

I'm just going to repost my GamePolitics comment.

“The bill I signed would require that violent video games be clearly labeled and not be sold to children under 18 years old.”

We have that…it’s called the fucking ESRB!

One of the few things I like about the current Republican party as a whole is that they typically don't push this "the government should raise your kids" BS.

It is the responsibility of the parents to raise the kids. While a don't mind a rating system to help parents catergorize the different content, making laws to criminalize mature video games like they are cigarettes or booze is crap.

It isn't even the laws themselves as much as the way these liberal a-holes push their laws. They talk about games as if they are proven to cause youth violence and murders, when really they are just using it as a political platform and scapegoat to reach out to chicken shit cowardly parents across America.

I am so sick of America attacking all personal freedoms that religious conservatives and ultra-liberal pussies don't personally partake in. Our government is fucking up our country with wars, corrupt politicians, laws that continue to cyphon all of our wealth to the richest 0.1% of Americans, welfare, an eroding educational system, unfair trade laws, selling out our nation to foreign entities, etc. Yet they act like our little personal freedoms like being able to buy a video game or drink or smoke or watch porn without some huge stigma or law attached to it is something we should worry about. It is such bullshit. They fuck us over daily and try to blame the problems of our kids on things like video games. Maybe it is that the parents are too stressed out working in an economy that continues to squeeze everything the lower and middle classes have into the pockets of the wealthy to have time and emotional resources to invest into their children's mental development.

Since I might get voted down for putting my huge quote list in my comment I will link it then put the list in my reply.
http://www.dsfanboy.com/2007/07/24/face-training-commercials-totally-freak-us-out/

I think the only way we'll ensure the survival of mature games, and I very much hope they do survive, is by rating them and preventing underage users of a game.
There will, of course, always be parents giving in to their pushy 10 year olds and buying Manhunt for them for their birthday, but at least the responsibility would lie with the parents, rather than the games industry.

What I find hilarious is this.

Most people on here are of teh "Let Parents do their jobs" mentality. Yet, the same posters are here blasting Arnie and saying "I saw there movies when I was 12."

Clearly your parents wern't doing their jobs when you were 12 if not you wouldn't seen these movies..

See where I'm going with this?

Parenting is a lot of give and take. You want to keep your child from experiencing what might be too intense or scarey for them however you also don't really want to shelter them from the world either. Kids have to grow gradually, not experience a massive culture shock of violence and sex at age 18.

At the end of the day, parents know their kids best. They need to sit down, gauge the content and make a decision. I know I do for my 3 year old.

I hate to say this, but parents are oblivious when it comes to the ESRB ratings. Maybe it would be a good thing to stick an "18 PLUS!!" sticker on the front of a game (maybe they would understand that). As an over 18 gamer, I'm fairly sick and tired of going on Xbox Live, only to hear a 10 year old boy screaming the N word at me the entire round (until the round is over and I can mute him finally).

I'd have to read more though. Does this bill make it a crime to buy your child a game rated 18+? (Much in the way that it's illegal to buy your kid pr0n or liquor) or is it still just a suggestion (for the parents) and a crime for the store to sell it?

I dont get all of you that have issues with the rating system of calling him a hypocrit. Movies have ratings for things like blood, gore, language, and violence. His movies that featured a lot of that were rated R. So why should video games be any different? Gears of War for example, features adult language and loads of gore and violence. It should be rated M as it is. Kids should not have easy access to this stuff. If their parents want to buy it for them, that is their right. Though it boggles my mind when I play Live with Gears and I am playing against a 7 year old. I dont see what sort of parent would let their young kids play games where the object is to, in graphic detail, blow someones head off with a shot gun and everything else. How does this law violate any rights? You are either old enough to buy the game or you're not. Saying the system violates rights is like saying movies should allow any one of any age into any movie, no matter the rating. Or maybe kids should be allowed to go to a strip club? Yet again, the morales of society our going down even further. I enjoy these type of games sometimes, but I am an adult. My kids will not be playing these type of games until they are older and more mature, unlike many of the users on Live.

The ESRB is a recommendation at the moment. There's no liability for a store not following it. What they want to do is hold retailable liable for selling a mature game to someone under 18.

I personally thing they're right to want to be able to do this.

So is it my first ammendment rights to get a hooker? What about my first ammendment rights to drink at age 14?!

The bill seems fine to me, it's not like some of those bills which would outlaw all games for everyone.

What in the world are you complaining about? This kind of regulation has been in existence in the UK for decades now, and has worked fairly well. All it'd be doing would be to make the ESRB's ratings legally binding, so that minors have an extra hoop to jump through if they want to play violent games. In the long run, this can only decrease the amount of bad press ("Video games train our kids to kill!") that video games receive.

While it won't stop parents from obliviously buying the violent games for their kids (Store clerk: "But ma'am, in this game you rape hookers, then kill them and ride off in your stolen car!" Mom: "He'll love it!"), it's a step in the right direction.

How about some public service announcements? Arnold doing doing a PSA would do much more for awareness then an expensive unconstitutional law.

Many parents today will only pay attention if they see a commercial during Deal or No Deal.

~The more you know

lol. T2 was the first 15 certificate movie i watched in the cinema.. when i was about 13. I still remember us all being excited about trying to get into a film when we were underage.

Of course, that was in the Uk.. and here it is already illegal to sell adult games and movies to minors.

Seems hypocritical coming from schwa-chan though.

If it adds anything to this debate, larger retail stores where I live in Canada are in the habit of slapping on Film Classification Board 18+ stickers on violent 'M' rated games to stop clerks from just checking 'em thru without a care. We can say what we will about the stupid politics involved here, but at the end of the day kids shouldn't be able to purchase 'M' rated games much like they shouldn't be allowed to go see R rated flicks by themselves. What we need is a platform where games and their rating system - the ESRB - are taken somewhat seriously.

First of all, this is not an unconstitutional bill. I fail to see where free speech is being attacked. Buying a video game is not an expression of who you are, any more than buying gum. The games can still be sold if the parent so chooses to let his kid buy it. do not get me wrong, I would rather see the government stop tyring to take the place of the parent, and that is what I see as the real issue. This bill is nothing more than an attempt by politicians to be able to say "I am trying to protect kids from harm and if you are against it, then you must not want to prtect kids". Using this kind o legislation is how they secure reelection for themselves. This stratagy has been used over and over for the last 15 years, and I would like to know when the American people are going to tell the government to stay the heck out of our lives. Gaming is not the only thing under assault either. These same politicians want to control everything you do from what you eat, to what you watch, to what you drive all in the name of knowing whats best. We live in a free society, and its time for these power hungry twits to stop with their socialist advances.