Gmail goes IMAP: finally your mobile email client & Gmail fall in love
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Eugene @ Oct 24th 2007 2:04AM
And so the waiting game begins...
frank @ Oct 24th 2007 2:52AM
isnt this more evidence that google is making a mobile OS rather than hardware?
Kyrra @ Oct 24th 2007 2:20AM
I just enabled it on my Gmail account and set it up with my iPhone. Wow, I've been waiting for this since I got my iPhone. Thanks Google for the continued free improvements to Gmail!
steve @ Oct 24th 2007 4:20PM
one of my account (primary) is activated, the other one isn't. This is great!!
I can finally just focus my attention on what's in the inbox and not all the other stuff!
DJ MoRice @ Oct 24th 2007 2:48AM
Thank you Google. Does anyone know if this is in the plans for hosted gmail?
Ted @ Oct 24th 2007 3:35AM
I've got it on my hosted account but not on my regular gmail account.
Martin @ Oct 24th 2007 2:49AM
It's not showing up on my account.
Ricochet @ Oct 24th 2007 2:51AM
If the POP/IMAP option isn't showing up for you, change your "Gmail Display Language" on the General tab of Settings to "English (US)".
I was using "English (UK)" and the option wasn't there. Enjoy!
Martin @ Oct 24th 2007 2:53AM
Already set in English (US)...ARGGHHH!!!! I want this SOOO BAD!
Namarrgon @ Oct 24th 2007 2:58AM
Did that, still no joy. Maybe tomorrow.
Eldiablo @ Oct 24th 2007 7:39AM
Yes, I can confirm that that fix works for me. Nothing for UK English, But shows up on US English.
Rome425 @ Oct 24th 2007 3:05AM
Changed the language, logged out and back in to Gmail, rebooted comp ;) no IMAP settings yet.
split.second @ Oct 24th 2007 3:15AM
in response to frank, i'm sure Google is making the OS. however I'm also sure they've got some tech firm doing the hardware for them, and then they will brand is as Google hardware.
Taylor Alexander @ Oct 24th 2007 3:17AM
Hah! I turned on the computer to search for a solution for some gmail POP problems i was having, checked engadget like i normally do, and got this surprise! Awesome! I've wanted this for years!
!!
!
-Taylor
Michael @ Oct 24th 2007 3:21AM
Ok, so Gmail is offering IMAP now, which is cool, but when will Yahoo announce their IMAP? I discovered late last week that I can get IMAP with my Yahoo mail, but I'm a Plus user, so I'm wondering if maybe that's how. (Settings are obvious: imap.mail.yahoo.com) I've searched their site to find anything official, but nowhere does it mention Yahoo supports IMAP.
Either way, I'm loving it on my Nokia N73! (Yeah, and my Palm Treo 750, but I only use that because work gave it to me.)
Ayle @ Oct 24th 2007 6:33AM
Only the yahoo plus users can use imap currently....
Bob Ski Utah @ Oct 24th 2007 3:59AM
I have it enabled on my new account, but Mail on both my Mac and iPhone don't recognize that it is enabled! Its also a VERY new account... just started it hours ago
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Phil Bieber @ Oct 24th 2007 5:52AM
One out of my three GMAIL accounts has IMAP, saddly, its the one I use least .... =(
So I'm gonna go on waiting for something to happen...
Gotta go check if IMAP's there ...
Cheers
Phil
kenny @ Oct 24th 2007 6:54AM
just saw this in the gmail help section:
"Don't fret if you don't see "IMAP Access" yet under the Settings menu. We're rolling it out to everyone over the next few days."
So no need to post comments saying you haven't got it yet - it may take a day or two before it shows up in every account...
ryan @ Oct 24th 2007 7:09AM
What's the benefit of this?
The Gmail on my iphone works fine as is, what will IMAP give me I don't already have?
Neg2LED @ Oct 24th 2007 8:15AM
Duuuude.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP#Advantages_over_POP3
Why does NOBODY use the wikipedia?!?!?!?!?
Neg2LED @ Oct 24th 2007 8:17AM
Oh and yes, this does mean that on your iPhone you can command you're Gmail to archive a message. Whereas POP3 only supports client-side folders, IMAP4 supports multiple mailboxes.
Use the Wikipedia, ryan!
Big John @ Oct 24th 2007 12:39PM
Neg2LD, how do I archive? I'm looking at https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=77657 and I don't see the word 'archive' on that page.
sam @ Oct 24th 2007 1:35PM
(sigh...)
Crash @ Oct 24th 2007 1:44PM
By removing the INBOX label (which Gmail automatically places on items that are not SPAM and arrive in your INBOX) when you delete a message on your iPhone, it archives your message.
NuShrike @ Oct 24th 2007 3:57PM
With IMAP IDLE compatible clients, think of it as push-email a la Exchange. THAT's how much better it is compared to POP3, Better than Exchange even because it's a multi-platform standard.
fyreblazer @ Oct 24th 2007 9:41AM
Now if we can only get a windows mobile native gmail app...
Justin Rogers @ Oct 24th 2007 10:05AM
I just loaded this up on my iPhone, and color me unimpressed. It shows my labels as folders, but Google's way of threading messages doesn't translate back into messages in the IMAP lists, and it doesn't add up. Also, how are you supposed to "Archive" messages on the go, and have them show up in the labels still? I don't get it.
I currently use my Gmail account to forward to a real IMAP system, so that I get real individual emails. Until Gmail gets rid of this Archiving Labeling Threading concept, it will never work properly.
Gavin @ Oct 24th 2007 10:26AM
You just have to map your folders out. To see how check out:
http://www.gavinhall.org/2007/10/23/gmail-finally-adds-imap/
Big John @ Oct 24th 2007 12:28PM
Justin, I was curious too -- how do I archive now? Do I still have to drop back to the Gmail web app?
Xandrios @ Oct 24th 2007 10:07AM
Great news!
My account is not updated yet, unfortunately. How is the IMAP performance with a filled (~2GB) account? I have tried some other commerical IMAP providers in the past month but they all had dramatic IMAP performance.
This would be incredibly cool with Google Apps Professional, 25GB of email storage plus IMAP access.. :9
nick @ Oct 24th 2007 11:05AM
I've been a Yahoo Mail fan for years, but if they don't re-enable IMAP soon, I may just have to make the move to GMail
marlieu @ Oct 24th 2007 11:13AM
Will Gmail IMAP mean that when I send a message from my computer or from my iPhone that it won't show up in my iPhone's inbox? This is all I really care about. I know there are work arounds for this, but they are lame.
jordan tate @ Oct 24th 2007 11:49AM
Have you turned off the "Always Bcc Myself" feature on the iPhone under Settings->Mail (at the bottom) this solves that problem too.
Peteo @ Oct 24th 2007 11:15AM
The problem with Google's IMAP implimation is, it continuously will download old mail. I have 3000 emails in my gmail account. When my iphone goes up to gmail initially it will download 50 headers. If I delete a few emails,it will go back up to gmail and download more mail even if its old!! Your account is continuously downloading old mail every time you delete one.
really sucks!
Peter @ Oct 24th 2007 4:29PM
Is this true??? I remember I have always had this problem with GMAIL and iPhone when setting up a new account on iphone....it will download 50 at a time out of my MILLIONS of archived messages....I figured out how to solve this but is their a solution for the IMAP version???
Brad @ Oct 24th 2007 1:15PM
I can't say for sure on the iPhone, but almost every mobile mail app I've used (Palm, Windows Mobile) has two settings to fix this. First is "Only display messages from the past TIMEPERIOD (2 days, 1 week, 3 months, etc)". The other option is "Fetch headers only" which is the option I go for. Having all four thousand emails available at a moment's notice is really handy. If I come across a message I need (in search / filtering) I just hit "Get the rest of this message" and it pulls down the whole message.
jordan tate @ Oct 24th 2007 11:43AM
I think that the GMail IMAP is great, but I agree with Peteo and that is not my only problem. While it will mark messages as read (slowly) , it won't mark them as replied. The actions are limited and not fully compatible with Apple Mail (or the iPhone). I am going to stick with using .mac as my gmail IMAP, it is a more sophisticated IMAP server (that supports more actions). I love Google for gmail and now IMAP on gmail, but it is not quite ready for me yet.
noah @ Oct 24th 2007 11:55AM
Does it support push email like yahoo? I have imap available in my secondary gmail account so I tried it on the iPhone and I still have to go into the mail app to receive the messages. Right now I have to forward my gmail messages to a shell yahoo account so I can be notified of new messages immediately, and so I don't have to have it check every 15 minutes and kill the battery. But it's annoying because I have to continuously delete the messages from my yahoo and switch between accounts so replies are from my gmail account and not through the shell yahoo. I was hoping this gmail imap would relieve the problem. Doesn't seem like it right now but I'm trying to be patient.
Is this just a hiccup on my account since they just launched it or does imap not necessarily support psuh email? Is anoyone else's "pushing" the email to their iphone or other mail client?
Ryan @ Oct 24th 2007 2:43PM
IMAP =/= push
NuShrike @ Oct 24th 2007 3:59PM
IMAP IDLE == push-email
Final Light @ Oct 24th 2007 1:20PM
sorry for the question, but what's the difference between POP and IMAP?
take it easy on me please. :)
David Fishman @ Oct 24th 2007 4:37PM
This is great...I definitely need Gmail on the run. I'm really excited to hear that Facebook is also working on a plan to update their mobile features.
JMG @ Oct 24th 2007 4:49PM
So happy!!! I have to do the silly rencent.me@gmail.com to get some sanity. IMAP will be great.
FINAL LIGHT: IMAP is an image of what is on the gmail server. So you can access your email from multiple applications whether mobile, desktop or laptop and the Inbox, Sent, Draft, etc. is always the same.
POP: You are just downloading what is on the gmail server so when another application accesses gmail the email it is looking for is gone because the another application already downloaded it.
Darren @ Oct 24th 2007 5:19PM
And as quickly as it came, it disappeared. Of course after I set up all my macs and iPhone and everything is working properly, they take imap away and my account no longer supports it. WTF?!
Darren @ Oct 24th 2007 5:22PM
Of course after I finally type my comment imap is reinstated on my acct...
Ben @ Oct 24th 2007 5:34PM
same here
gone then back...not a promising start
jake @ Oct 24th 2007 7:32PM
I've been using Gmail as my shell/interface for my non-Google-hosted vanity domain, by forwarding from that domain to Gmail, and telling Gmail to use that domain as my return address.
I had a complicated imap workaround for my iPhone, in which I forwarded from my vanity domain to Gmail, then on to an "iphone@vanitydomain.com" email.
Anyone know whether Gmail's new imap is going to do me any good? I can't quite wrap my mind around what it means for me.