1. "I'm not exactly part of the tinfoil hat crowd-- I've already posted my spec here on the site for everyone to see anyway. But it does seem a little strange to allow every other player to see every talent choice in the realms"

And how is this any different than alt+tabb'ing out of WoW, and going to the Armory site and looking up a player?

Posted at 12:44PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Ichigo

2. Arugh, just what I need. To be flooded with tells from "helpful" morons telling my why my prot spec is wrong and why I should have points in Divine Intellect.

Posted at 12:46PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Thoma

3. In theory I like this idea. I agree that talents specs make our characters individual but don't most people already mimic and mirror certain builds? This just makes it easier. I am trying to lvl one of every class and honestly for the classes I hate to play (pallies, warriors) I could use all the talent help I could get. I often wonder how the heck lvl 70 pallies and warriors came to be and maybe how I can make mines work.

Again, I like this in theory, but players will complain about special specs and blah, blah. From what I understand about older MMOs specs and raid plans were keep close to the vest. WOW doesn't seem to be that way...I like that WOW is more accessible.

Posted at 12:51PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Dotixi

4. I think another gem in the notes is:
-- You can now send up to 12 items in a single mail message.

Posted at 12:51PM on Oct 12th 2007 by FireStar

5. in-game armory ftw

Posted at 12:51PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Zee

6. @2 I hear you. I can see it already. People giving me crap for being a protection pally and not having Deflection, Anticipation, or Sacred Duty.

Krick
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http://www.tankadin.com

Posted at 12:52PM on Oct 12th 2007 by deleted

7. @2 i couldnt of said it better, whether its your armor selection or weaps...just another reason for me to spend more time in my ignore tab.....

Posted at 12:52PM on Oct 12th 2007 by ajima

8. lol...now we get more comments from asshats in bg's on other players on how much they suck!

Posted at 12:53PM on Oct 12th 2007 by gd1107

9. Now if they would only make inspect show the person's alchemy or tailoring mastery, so that mats aren't wasted on liars, I would be overjoyed. Hell, I would take the armory showing this!

Posted at 1:02PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Medros

10. If you have a super seekret talent build, you probably suck and your talent build is probably worthless.

I am glad they have this change, so you MT doesn't decided to spec fury for the lady vashj fight so that he can PVP afterwards.

True story. lol.

Posted at 1:06PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Danikar

11. I think this is terrible. Although I know anyone can alt-tab out but lets be honest, the average wow player is lazy. I'm a priest and I have to be at least some part shadow (31/22 s/d) to lvl because smite and HF are terrible. @2 The same thing is going to happen to me. I hybridized my priest so I can solo grind AND heal pretty damn well with the mana regen and IDS boost. Can't wait for all the bs whispers telling me what I'm doing wrong. It's kinda like you know there are pr0no pics of you on the internet (armory) but now you are just forced to walk around with your P3ni5 out in the open.... lame ....

Posted at 1:11PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Hasselhof

12. Lawlz @ Off-Spec people complaining.

Clue 1: You can go play solo with any spec you like cause it affects nobody else.

Clue 2: When you join a group or raid you agree to take on a specific job or role ... at that point your spec "affects" the group.

Clue 3: No matter how much you want to RP your character or like a particular build, if it means you are not pulling your weight in a group, then don't complain about people complaining to you.

The difference between on-spec and off-spec usually boils down to "group runs fast and smooth" to "maybe somebody can barely get the job done if the rest of the group adjusts their tactics to your subpar spec/performance".

Like a Feral Druid claiming they can adequately heal a particular 5 man run ... and he does fine till a pull/cc goes bad and you get a wipe that could have been avoided had the druid be resto spec.

The tinfoil hat crowd here thinks the wipe is acceptable in the aforementioned example ... the rest of us don't and now I won't have to alt-tab out before I kick you from the group :-p

Posted at 1:25PM on Oct 12th 2007 by DavidC

13. @4 I agree that that is a gem (hooray! no more multi mails to alts).

As with the inspect gaining the ability to show talents though I wouldn't go so far as to say hidden though. It's just lost in all the changes coming in 2.3 as is the mail change and other non-major additions.

Now if you want hidden how about the undocumented addition of a built-in tracking modes button (profession and non-profession) *and* quest markers and undiscovered flightmaster markers on the minimap?

Posted at 1:28PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Svartalve

14. YES!! Even more cookie cutter builds! AND, Mr Know-it-all in my guild can tell me how to spec every last point!

Posted at 1:35PM on Oct 12th 2007 by slunk

15. This will be useful in random BG groups. As a healer, I inspected people around me at the beginning to check out HKs/gear as a means of finding someone to follow who would probably be a good PVPer and worth keeping alive. Now I can find that heal-target even more effectively (uh, if I ever play a healer again).

Posted at 1:37PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Smurk

16. @14

I'm not trying to do a role as an off-spec. I'm trying to do the role that I'm specced for. If I join a five man I'm there to tank. I'm specced prot. What I am complaining about is jack-asses who are going to go around commenting on specs they know jack about.

Posted at 1:40PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Thoma

17. Most of the time if everyone's telling you that your spec is terrible, guess what?!?! Your spec is terrible!!
lol

Posted at 1:46PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Freehugz

18. This will just fuel the fire that is the "perfect" spec. I can't count the times people have kicked my tank from a group because I was MS spec'd and not Prot, and my healer for not being full Holy, because I wanted Spirit buff. Now I can't even lie to them.

Posted at 1:53PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Epiny

19. @17

Given the inconsistency of the comments and the general lack of clue they show, I'll stay with my spec. Just because alot of people say something doesn't make them right.

Posted at 2:07PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Thoma

20. Who cares? The armory took out any supposed semblance of privacy any player may have had in regards to their spec or gear.

Posted at 2:20PM on Oct 12th 2007 by idburns