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Phoenix succeeds in loading soil into oven

ALICIA CHANG

The Associated Press

Latest comment posted at 11:43 AM EDT 14/06/08

Scientists on Earth break into song and dance as Mars lander's seventh shake works ...Read the full article

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  1. Mike with 77 Rules from Toronto, Canada writes: This looks like science fiction! Great work!
  2. Dennis sinneD from Calgary, Canada writes:

    Yay!
  3. Mean Machine from Bugtussle, Canada writes: That sticky stuff is called mud
  4. Brendan Caron from vancouver, Canada writes: Woo-Hoo!
  5. Ian Gunn from Minneapolis, United States writes: It's Oil Sand! Let's get up there :)
  6. larry price from Arnstein, ON, Canada writes: It's a tribute to human ingenuity that we can send machine to Mars to play in the Martian sandbox, and that's all this amounts to. I live neart a neutrino lab located thousands of feet underground in an old mine. It is a huge gold covered sphere filled with heavy water that traps neutrinos, possibly from the sun. One day they got one and collided it. the result mystified them. Their statement said, in effect, "The result was unexpected. We have to re-think our theories. Keep the money coming."
    If we had decided to investigate the ultimate nature of light, instead of the ultimate nature of matter, we would have a completely different physics. The Chinese philosophy is: Everything is unique, and everything is changing. Is there other human-like life out there somewhere? The Chinese say: No, we are unique.
  7. Red-necked and loving it from Canada writes: I'll bet they don't find a single microbe. Mars, like the rest of the universe, is dead and has always been dead - that's dead like in "has never lived, never seen life" for those who want to split hairs.
  8. edward prior from Montreal, Canada writes: Great accomplishment, but can anyone reconcile for me the use of "scoop", "brimming" and "pinch" all in reference to the same event? Must be a very small oven if a if it brims with a pinch, and a pinch is equal to a scoop. What are they using, a coke spoon?
  9. Dave Moores from Oakville, Canada writes: The ovens are indeed tiny - about the size of a ballpoint-pen refill.
    As to the cynical comments about "keep the money coming", what could be more important for our view of ourselves within the universe, than to know whether life of any kind exists outside of Earth?

    If that doesn't seem important to you then we have very little in common to discuss.
  10. Scenic Sask! from Canada writes: Great news that progress is being made. I just hope the next one-hour special on the Phoenix that Discovery airs has more information than the last one. Forty-three minutes of rerun material from past shows, fifteen minutes of commercials, and two minutes of new material and updates just doesn't cut it!
  11. Kevin Stewart from Fort Frances, Canada writes: When you think about the technology involved in this mission, our current energy/climate problems look solveable. We can do anything, given the will and organization. Sadly that's been lacking so far, but the NASA Mars missions show what we are capable of.
  12. John McMortimer-Boyles from An Undisclosed Underground Location Safe From Nuclear Attack, Canada writes: Well said Kevin Stewart!!

    The world would be much farther ahead if we could put more money into solving problems--be they exploring the universe, fighting climate change, reducing hunger and poverty, and providing better education and health care--and less money into trying to kill each other off.
  13. Red-necked and loving it from Canada writes: Dave Moores from Oakville, Canada writes: The ovens are indeed tiny - about the size of a ballpoint-pen refill.
    As to the cynical comments about "keep the money coming", what could be more important for our view of ourselves within the universe, than to know whether life of any kind exists outside of Earth?

    Atheists (not saying you are one) are determined to find "life" where non exists so they can continue to decry religion and promote the theory of evolution. Sorry, not going to happen, not going to find life - not in your lifetime - not ever. Watch, wait and see.
  14. anthony rockel from Canada writes: Redneck: What has the existence of life elsewhere in the universe got to do with atheism? Don't tell me-- I guess you are a follower of Jerry Falwell or one of the those other religious bullies. Even Pope Benedict says it's ok to believe in aliens. Chemistry and physics is the same everywhere else in the universe, so what's to stop life appearing in all kinds of star systems?
  15. Whodat Singer from St. Catharines, Canada writes: Larry Price....I assume you are refering to the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory (SNO). If so, perhaps you should read a little more about it. They do not "trap" neutrinos. They observe the collision of the neutrino with the nucleous (sp?) of the heavy water atom. The resulting energy release is observed by hundreds of photo detectors. I also belive that collisions are observed daily.

    Also the reason it is called a theory is because there is no proof, so of course an unexpected event can completely change a theory.
  16. Doug Dewan from Canada writes: Red-necked: The fact that there is life elsewhere in the universe is a certainty. When you crunch the numbers and do a statistical analysis it has to exist. Now if it's anywhere close to us who knows. But when you think that we are one planet, in one solar system made up of billions of other solar systems in our galaxy and our galaxy is one of billions of galaxies it's hard to accept there there isn't life elsewhere. To flat out deny that would be ummm denial. Would certainly be a big waste of space wouldn't it.?
  17. David Rouleau from Canada writes: Doug Dewen...excellent quote from the movie "Contact". That flick really opened my eyes about the immensity of the Universe...and they were already opened quite widely. Cheers!!
  18. Steve Church from Canada writes: Doug Dewan:- Your certainty doesn't exist. It should; the numbers scream it; the really bigness of it all demands it. And it still may not exist. Our solar system isn't ordinary or average, our planet is in the goldilocks zone and has an atmosphere that leverages it; our Moon is a stick that stirs a drink, our Sun is on the long end of stable, and our world rocks with the right dance steps to promote biological change. If Phoenix comes up empty, then it's going to increase the odds that Earth is 'it'.
  19. Kim Philby from Ottawa, Canada writes: Steve Church: I just glanced down at my desk and didn't see any insects. According to you, that means it's likely there are no insects on earth.
  20. Red-necked and loving it from Canada writes: anthony rockel from Canada writes: Redneck: What has the existence of life elsewhere in the universe got to do with atheism?

    I believe the Bible tells us God created man in his own image. If there are little bug-eyed green or grey men out there, then the atheists can continue to say the Bible is fallacy with perhaps some conviction. The universe is purported to be infinite. Yes there should be other galaxies and worlds with life given such immensity and inconceivable vastness but then, if you're a believer it could be taken as an indication of God's greatness and conversely our own insignificance. Atheists apparently have a difficult time thinking there might be someone greater than themselves, (Al Gore notwithstanding) thus their refusal to believe.
  21. harry carnie from Northern, B.C, Canada writes: GREAT!
  22. Walker fromtheevilempireofAB from Calgary, Canada writes: Ok guys, if we are the only life that God created, then why, oh why, would he go to all the effort of creating all those other planets and galaxies?

    Be kinda like buying a 10,000 acre ranch and having only 1 horse......
  23. Steve Church from Canada writes: Kim Philby:- It means no such thing.
  24. Larfing Outloud from Virgin Islands (British) writes: Kim Philby from Ottawa, Canada writes: "Steve Church: I just glanced down at my desk and didn't see any insects. According to you, that means it's likely there are no insects on earth."

    Riposte of the day Kim. Well said.
  25. Steve Church from Canada writes: Larfing:- That's not what my post said or meant. For you and Kim to try and squeeze it into that is utter rubbish.
  26. GlynnMhor of Skywall from Canada writes: Red-necked and loving it from Canada writes:"... God created man in his own image."

    No, humans created the gods in human (or near-human) image.
  27. GlynnMhor of Skywall from Canada writes: larry price from Arnstein, ON, Canada writes: "If we had decided to investigate the ultimate nature of light, instead of the ultimate nature of matter, we would have a completely different physics."

    This makes no sense at all. Physics is physics. While there is still a great conundrum accomodating the mathematics of gravity with the mathematics of the other three forces (electromagnetic, strong nuclear, and weak nuclear) there is no valid distinction between the study of the fundamental basis of light and that of matter.
  28. Bert Russell Paradox, BC from Canada writes:
    The science bashers would not evolve but would still be living in caves, grunting at each other.
  29. JC perfide from Paris, France writes:
    Now, which nice girl is going to clean an hoven that dirty??

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