Keith Olbermann To Jon Stewart On Fox News: “I Told You So”
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The latest person to take Fox News honcho Roger Ailes to task for his (to put it mildly) questionable comments on NPR (and less-incendiary remarks on Jon Stewart) is, unsurprisingly, Keith Olbermann. Olbermann dissected Ailes’ remarks on tonight’s (Not Really) World’s Worst, gave Ailes “(Not Really) Worser” status…and boasted ever so slightly to Stewart in the process.
First, Olbermann looked at Ailes calling Stewart “crazy” and saying he “hates conservatives” (while referring to The Daily Beast only as “an Internet gossip site”), saying Ailes’ comments “prov[ed] my point about false equivalence.” And he told Stewart:
“Jon, I told you so. I mean, I might disagree with you, but I’d never think you were crazy or hateful. But Maher is right! One side sticks to the facts, and the other side is close to playing with its poop.”
Then, he took Ailes to task for his “Nazi” comments about NPR, which, frankly, was deserved. Criticize NPR all you want, but Nazi comparisons go beyond criticism, and despite his apology to the Anti-Defamation League, Ailes deserves to be called out on this one. Video of the segment below.
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But he wasn’t saying there was false equivalency. He just said both side’s extremes are the ones getting all the attention, drowning out most of the nation who don’t see it as just one side being right and one side being wrong.
Just so I am clear… If by chance hell freezes over… And Jeb Bush were to be elected POTUS. Then are we allowed to bring out the Nazi references?
I guess it does get old. They do need a rest period. Then it will be fresh for Palin 2012, or better yet Bush 2016!!
You need a lesson in Journalism Ethics 101, Glenn.
Glenn?
Keith, you freaking idiot, there is nothing you can do short of having every Playboy Playmate on your set live and nude that will help you in your ratings. Nobody likes you which means Bill O’Reilly will continue kicking your oversize kiester from Mid-Manhatten to Lower Manhatten and back up to Upper Manhatten day in and day out for as long as you shoot your oversize mouth off at msnbc. Just shut up already!!!
Keith is exactly right once again. This false equivalence between the always-civil left and the ever-unhinged right must stop. Someone as measured and nuanced as Keith Olbermann would never dream of comparing people to the Third Reich simply because he disagreed with them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGlSTP90KLc
Keith Olbermann is the pseudo-intellectual apotheosis.
Keith Olbermann
Countdown with Keith Olbermann
MSNBC
July 28, 2006
Dear Mr. Olbermann,
We are deeply dismayed by your ongoing use of the Nazi “Sieg Heil” salute, both on your program and in public appearances — including the recent Television Critics Association press tour — while holding up a mask of Fox News commentator Bill O’Reilly.
While we understand that your aim is to entertain your audience by taking pot shots at Mr. O’Reilly, your repeated use of the Nazi salute has resulted in many complaints from our constituents, including Holocaust survivors and their families who find the use of this gesture offensive and repugnant in any context.
The Nazi salute is more than just a remnant of history, but serves as a calling card for modern-day neo-Nazis and white supremacists. We believe that the use of gestures and imagery associated with the Nazis – even in jest – only serves to trivialize the Holocaust and denigrate the memory of the six million Jews and others who died as a result of Hitler’s Final Solution.
As a respected and well-known media personality, your actions have consequences and can set a standard for others to emulate. We are especially concerned that young people viewing your program might take their cues from your free use of the “Sieg Heil” salute.
In light of these concerns, we hope that you will reconsider your use of the Nazi salute in the future.
Sincerely,
The Anti-Defamation League
http://www.adl.org/media_watch/tv/20060728-MSNBC.htm
ouch , john, good one
Nice. Beat me to it !
What a hypocritical queefbag
KO also said FOX was worst than the terrorist that hit us on 9/11 and don’t forget he compared Dan Abrams father to a Nazi too….so don’t throw too many of those stones KO.
*cough, cough, meow, hiss* Sorry,… hairball.
Dear Keith, Comcast is coming for you baby…
Keith, whenever you try to stick up for my side you embarrass me even further because you are neck deep in your own shit too.
Please, I implore you, stfu.
Hmmm. Neither persuasive nor compelling. What ace does Olbermann have hidden up his sleeve?
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“This, Mr. Bush, is simple enough for even You to understand. You’re a FASCIST! Get them to print you a T-Shirt with FASCIST On It!” – Bathtub Boy
And what a Shocker that his First Worst Person “post-suspension” was a Female Too. Gee, who saw That Comin’? No Wonder He probably can’t get laid at The Bunny Ranch.
If you knew what fascism is, you’d know that the description fits Bush alarmingly well.
Olbermann treats women equally? The bastard!
Fakes “News” has built its ratings on lies, distortions and mischaracterizations – aided and abetted by intellectually moribund, lazy viewers more interested in having their prejudices pandered to than learning often-unpleasant truths.
Another boring, completely predictable piece about Keith Olbermann. Will we be getting updates each time he farts soon? Isn’t there something more important or newsworthy than KO criticizing FOX News for the millionth time?
“Then, he took Ailes to task for his “Nazi” comments about NPR, which, frankly, was deserved. Criticize NPR all you want, but Nazi comparisons go beyond criticism,”
Olbermann calls Bush fascist, and then tries to justify it
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2009/03/26/olbermann-dean-crazy-call-president-fascist-olbermann-called-bush-fas
Olbermann Calls for Prosecution of Bush, Invokes Nazis and Slavery
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2009/01/19/olbermann-calls-prosecution-bush-invokes-nazis-slavery#ixzz15j9QEdt6
MSNBC’s Schultz Compares Tea Party Movement to Nazi ‘Brown Shirts’ to Demonize Beck Rally
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2010/08/25/msnbc-s-schultz-compares-tea-party-movement-nazi-brown-shirts-demonize-be#ixzz15jAH03w5
Olbermann Defends Applying Nazi Salute to O’Reilly and Ties in Brian Williams
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/node/6579#ixzz15jAUUWig
Group Demands Olbermann Apologize for Comparing Jewish Attorney to Nazi Collaborator
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/03/11/group-demands-olbermann-apologize-omparing-jewish-attorney-nazi-coll#ixzz15jAialm9
Ed Schultz Denies Calling Bush a Nazi — But Compared Limbaugh to Hitler
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2010/05/29/ed-schultz-denies-calling-bush-nazi-compared-limbaugh-hitler#ixzz15jB4m1MS
Mike Malloy compares Bush to Nazi
http://www.mediaite.com/online/proggressive-radio-host-mike-malloy-compares-president-bush-to-hitler/
David Shuster Insists Dems Hate Hitler Analogies — But Chris Matthews Didn’t In 2005 When Bob Byrd Did It
http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20100326052501.aspx
Rand’s Race: Matthews Plays The Nazi Card
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/10/26/rands-race-matthews-plays-nazi-card
NAZI, NAZI, NAZI: CHRIS MATTHEWS’ AMAZING HYPOCRISY – CALLED TEA PARTY NAZIS & STORMTROOPERS ALL WEEK
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/nazi-nazi-nazi-chris-matthews-amazing-hypocrisy-called-tea-party-nazis-all-week/
And no one cared what KO had to say.
Dear Glenn Davis:
As many posters here have shown, your double standard is staring you in the face! In standard operating procedure, you slam Fox, while giving a pass to your buddies at MSNBC. We all know the ties between mediaate (see Rush) and MSNBC. But for you to stand with Keith on his criticism on FOX over this is absurd and makes you look pretty darn stupid.
Keith is the biggest hate monger that exists on television; he has used the Nazi term several times, along with many of his MSNBC colleagues, and you have been given proof of that in the comments section.
Roger apologized and called NPR bigots, which of course they are. The action against Juan was uncalled for and unprofessional and based on lies and propaganda — what NPR and MSNBC are best at doing.
Shame on you for this absurd article and it’s incompleteness.
Mediaite is hurting it’s own reputation when you do these completely one-sided articles; restore some sanity and update your article with the headline: OLBERMANN IS A CLYMER and then explain why he is the pot calling the kettle black.
Dan could help by injecting some sanity on this board by instructing his columnists to stop being so blatantly biased.
What is hilarious is all the manufactured “outrage” at nazi comparisons. Virtually evreyone, from all walks of life has used a nazi comparison to point other peoples “exaggerated” comments or behavior for decades. No one honestly believes those comparisons are meant to equate the actual behavior of nazi’s to the behavior of say, NPR, George Bush, or Olbermann. It’s a descriptive, hyperbolic, expression simply used to point out the dictatorial like actions or beliefs of another.
Anybody going to denounce and cry foul on Jerry Seinfleld for the “Soup Nazi” episode? Lighten up.
No matter what these media people say about (or to) each other, nothing will change the simple fact that Fox News’ audience is mammoth while the MSNBC audience is microscopic. Olbermann is a small neutered dog. His barks reach a small audience of like-minded sycophants. His tiny reach is slightly expanded when sites like Mediaite pick up on his rantings the next day. Absent that bit of supplemental coverage, Olbermann and everyone at MSNBC is completely impotent.
“Olbermann is a small neutered dog.” Great comparison, and the excessive noisiness comes from the tiny schlong still remaining above the excised pair of pebbles…! Ailes was right—NPR acts as though it were a state-run and operated propaganda radio program designed exclusively to promote the policies of one party. I lived in several one-party countries when I was an FSO and know precisely why Roger used that term.
Glenn Davis really isn’t close to being ready for prime time. His silly second-rate sophomoric twaddle is frankly embarassing, and I hope Dan Abrams or somebody with a three-digit IQ sees the light and sends him back to the minors for further ’seasoning.’
So… Keith thinks making Nazi analogies means your “playing with your own poop.” Really Keith, you of all people want to go there???
http://gawker.com/189346/keith-olbermann-heil-oreilly
Well… someone better slap a diaper on Keith before he makes a mess.
Had Ailes stated that NPR was run by cowardly sell-outs who are manipulated by the money of corrupt corporate capitalists who are afraid of controversy (as Olbermann insinuated about his own industry, ala what he argued was the treatment of Murrow by CBS and intimated might be his own fate), all would be well in the land…
However, Ailes makes an ill-advised comparison to Nazis because Juan Williams was fired for essentially confessing his own bias on the wrong network (as an argument AGAINST stereotyping), and Ailes is terrible, even after apologizing.
Has Keith Olbermann apologized for doing a ‘Heil, Hitler’ salute while wearing an O’Reilly mask? Has he apologized for invoking Nazis while calling for Pres. Bush to be prosecuted (for many of the same policies continued by Pres. Obama)? Has he apologized yet for linking civil rights attorney Floyd Abrams to Nazis tactics?
Olbermann’s sense of false equivalency is pretty one-sided and false on its face…
Why did Olby leave off the beginning of the article:
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2010/11/18/roger-ailes-says-jon-stewart-told-him-hes-atheist-and-socialist#ixzz15jmfimpB
Sounds like Ailes knew what he was talking about, and had an hour long convo with Stewart on which to base those comments.
‘”One side sticks to the facts, and the other side is close to playing with its poop.”’
There you have it in a nutshell. This is why Countdown is a Republican/conservative free zone (unless the conservative is bashing another Repubican).
Olbermann dismisses every view but his own.
Ailes made an excellent point about Stewart. Where will Stewart’s audience go if he REALLY starts to behave as he says cable pundits ought to behave– less hyperbolic, more even-handed in criticism, etc.
However, to Olbermann, for Ailes to suggest that Stewart’s show doesn’t reflect his own parameters because it singles out conservatives in general and Fox News pundits in particular, is “playing with his own poop” and some sort of blasphemous act to liberals (when it comes from Ailes)
Stewart is great! Unassailable! How dare you, Mr. Ailes!
Stewart has always attempted to get around Ailes point by saying that those parameters don’t apply to him because he’s a comedian engaging in parody. Stewart points the finger at MSNBC and FOX, and Olbermann replies that those parameters don’t apply to MSNBC because they are saintly progressives, with all the facts, battling the apes who don’t see things Olbermann’s way… etc…
So BOTH Olbermann and Stewart (in his particular way) complain of false equivalency when they are singled out for not abiding by their own terms– Stewart in his criticism of the way cable has changed public discourse and Olbermann in the way he behaves as those he criticizes.
They both make special pleadings, with Olbermann flatly stating that it doesn’t matter how he behaves he’s on the side of the angels.
In the meantime, it would be really nice to have all this sorted out by a media that doesn’t see one side as being wrong on occasion, but the other side as invariably being corrupt and baleful.
Interesting Kurtz update, sarainitaly.
Only the hardest core of lemming would actually back the olberdork(king of the seig heil), congratulations, you recieve the Highest Order of Lemming!
The false equivalency between Fox and MSNBC is best shown by examining what the opposing media watchdogs point out. MRC on the right point to bias. Yes, MSNBC is biased to the left. Media Matters for America on the left point to false claims at Fox (and other right-wing media outlets). Oh, and they are biased too, but that goes quite literally without saying.
Both networks are biased: one network purposely and consciously deceives. That does not make FoxPAC and MSNBC equivalent.
The number one lie told on Fox? That they’re “fair and balanced.” Nothing is further from the truth. Does MSNBC lean forward? Yes. Is MSNBC the place for politics (as opposed to a straight news source)? Yes. Just this example demonstrates my point.
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/09/bias-vs-truthiness-analyzing-media.html
It’s funny to hear Ailes calling anyone a Nazi when he employs Glenn Beck, a Holocaust revisionist who plagiarizes his material from avowed Nazis like Eustace Mullins and Elizabeth Dilling, and claims that Jews killed Jesus. Ailes also employs Falafel-O’Reilly, who claimed that American troops murdered Nazis at Malmedy.
Notice how the FOX haters want to change the subject when KO’s and MSNBC are exposed as hypocrites over the use of calling people Nazis.
ChickaBOOMer: Keith Olbermann Shits Where He Eats
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2010/11/keith-olbermann-shits-where-he-eats.html
Ailes knows exactly what he’s saying, if he calls NPR nazi’s enough, Fox will start doing it, then everyone will associate “nazi” with NPR, even though it’s insane to call NPR nazi. In fact, I’d say it’s disrespectful to the people that actually fought nazi’s to say NPR is a nazi.
So **** that Ailes retard.
The singular of ‘Nazi’ is ‘Nazi.’ The plural is ‘Nazis.’ Where in heavens name does that extra apostrophe come in? I have university students at a prestigious Ivy League school who continue to make the same mistake.
Nazi’s is a possessive, belonging to a Nazi.
mlong says:
“Notice how the FOX haters want to change the subject when KO’s and MSNBC are exposed as hypocrites over the use of calling people Nazis.”
Name an example. Go ahead, but I won’t hold my breath. You’re accusation is pretty absurd juxtaposed against the backdrop of Beck having Nazi Tourette Syndrome. I love seeing bumpkins rationalizing Beck’s derangement.
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/still-doubt-that-beck-is-hypocrite.html
MSNBC is a joke and the viewing public agrees. Fox does a much better job with news than MSNBC.
The Fair and Balanced tag line is perfect because it so upsets liberals – whose whole existence is based on trying to force everything to be “equal.”
If Beck was deranged as you and the other screwballs thing, you guys wouldn’t bother with him. The fact is he is doing a good job of exposing you people so you guys spend a lot of time calling him names and attacking him (and Fox.)
You guys have nothing to talk about but your enemies.
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