I'm shocked... and this is more tolerance! 
I thought this country was better than this! Obviously not. 
wesleynl (Mar 7 2011, 12:39 PM) said: > original post
Half of young Dutch people reject homosexuality
Half of the young people in the province of North Holland reject homosexuality. On Sunday, LGBT rights organisation COC published on its website the resulted of a survey conducted by the North Holland health authorities among 10,000 students in secondary education.
The health authorities conducted their survey among students in the second and fourth grade of secondary education. They were asked to fill in a questionnaire via the internet. A similar survey was conducted in 2005. Half of those interviewed thought homosexuality was normal, 37 percent thought it was a ‘little strange’, 6 percent said it was ‘very strange’ and another six percent condemned homosexuality as being ‘wrong’.
The 2009 survey shows a slight increase in tolerance towards other life styles compared to 2005, when 56 percent of the young people rejected same-sex relationships.
Girls were generally more positive about homosexuality than boys. Just 39 percent of the girls rejected homosexuality compared to 61 percent of the boys. Young people of foreign descent were on average more negative about same-sex relationships compared to native Dutch children, 58 versus 49 percent. The survey showed that age and school type had no influence on attitudes regarding homosexuality.
http://www.rnw.nl/africa/bulletin/half-you...t-homosexuality
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canuckywoman (Mar 7 2011, 12:07 PM) said: > original post
I wonder how many students were from those religious town outside Amsterdam?
And teenagers are uncomfortable with anything "different"...they're still dealing with their own mixed up feelings...and want to "fit in" more than anything.
I prefer to believe that their brains still aren't fully formed yet!
wesleynl (Mar 7 2011, 06:22 PM) said: > original post
Then sexuality in schools should be more talked about so that young people, who feel they might be "different", i.e. homosexual, can feel far more at ease with themselves and those around them instead of feeling like something is wrong with them.
There should also be absolute zero tolerance regarding any form of bullying and any kind of hatred of any minority group... we should be instilling this before their brains are fully formed, not after, when it could be too late.
canuckywoman (Mar 7 2011, 05:24 PM) said: > original post
Totally agree. I suspect that, especially in the more religious schools, this ain't happening.
wesleynl (Mar 7 2011, 05:22 PM) said: > original post
Then sexuality in schools should be more talked about so that young people, who feel they might be "different", i.e. homosexual, can feel far more at ease with themselves and those around them instead of feeling like something is wrong with them.
There should also be absolute zero tolerance regarding any form of bullying and any kind of hatred of any minority group... we should be instilling this before their brains are fully formed, not after, when it could be too late.
wesleynl (Mar 7 2011, 05:22 PM) said: > original post
Then sexuality in schools should be more talked about so that young people, who feel they might be "different", i.e. homosexual, can feel far more at ease with themselves and those around them instead of feeling like something is wrong with them.
There should also be absolute zero tolerance regarding any form of bullying and any kind of hatred of any minority group... we should be instilling this before their brains are fully formed, not after, when it could be too late.
osita (Mar 8 2011, 11:32 PM) said: > original post
No; you can't talk kids to death about 'any' subject being right or wrong... or it's indoctrination, rather than letting them develop their own ideas - and indoctrination is equally wrong, no matter who its done by.
Don't be silly, I'm not talking about indoctrinating/talking to death, I'm simply saying it should be talked about more openly, just as straight sex is (which of course many wont mind being indoctrinated/talked to death over), so that those that think they may be homosexual can feel more at ease with themselves and not feel like that they have to hide their feelings just to fit in and be accepted... it's a pity people can't experience it first hand from the other side, would make people think a bit more about how they treat others. stone (Mar 8 2011, 11:02 PM) said: > original post
Those religious towns outside Amsterdam? CW, what on earth are you talking about? North Holland is massively dominated by one city: Amsterdam. Amsterdam is over 50% Muslim.
stone (Mar 8 2011, 10:02 PM) said: > original post
Those religious towns outside Amsterdam? CW, what on earth are you talking about? North Holland is massively dominated by one city: Amsterdam. Amsterdam is over 50% Muslim.
I appreciate your attempt to be politically correct. But, hey, a spade is a spade.
Your rush to blame this on non-existent Christian students is...a little odd.
If you're ever in the situation of watching a gang of hangjongeren beating up a couple of gay guys, keep saying to yourself, "it's the Christians...it's the Christians...it's the Christians".
stone (Mar 9 2011, 11:54 PM) said: > original post
I don't have time to find the link, but I'm pretty sure I'm right.
mrfook (Mar 10 2011, 08:57 AM) said: > original post
I don't have the link but I'm pretty sure you're wrong.
stone (Mar 10 2011, 12:54 AM) said: > original post
CW, your constant comparison of Christians and Muslims is getting a little extreme, don't you think? Maybe this works in some places, but it doesn't really work in a highly secular country like Holland. I understand that you're burdened with an overdeveloped sense of Canadian political correctness, but you don't have to keep reminding people that other people are just as bad as the Muslims. It's a weak argument. It would do the allochtoon community more good if everyone just acknowledged what problems that community is having and assisting them.
"Half of those interviewed thought homosexuality was normal, 37 percent thought it was a ‘little strange’, 6 percent said it was ‘very strange’ and another six percent condemned homosexuality as being ‘wrong’". 6% .. just 6% ... set it was outright wrong. That IS progress. It could be better, but it's not a backward step, or a regressive society.
Show me another country where the figures for that age group would be so amazingly accepting, 50% of teenagers considering homosexuality 'normal'? UK? USA? Anywhere east of Germany or south of Spain? Don't make me laugh. You really need to understand the mindset of this age group. Dictating that they MUST accept ... anything... just doesn't work.
Of course I was talking about the schools. Amsterdam's schools are more than 50% allochtoon.
the_purplecow (Apr 3 2011, 10:48 AM) said: > original post
has the largest youth section of any political party in The Netherlands.
