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Fujifilm X100T Overview: Digital Photography Review
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Fujifilm X100T Overview

September 2014 | By Richard Butler
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Based on a prototype Fujifilm X100T

The Fujifilm FinePix X100 was a milestone camera in the industry as one of the first large sensor, prime lens cameras to achieve widespread popularity. Its classic look, obviously cribbed from a certain German camera maker, were justified by the excellent image quality its 35mm equivalent f/2 lens could produce. It was also a rare example of a camera its maker continued to develop, long after it hit the market. An original X100 running the latest firmware is a much better camera than the one that Fujifilm originally launched. Impressively, this work continued even after the second-generation, Fujifilm X100S had been launched.

Fujifilm has continued this process of improvement, fine-tuning and evolution to create the X100T. From the outside it looks very much like the original model but it's packed with a host of changes, modifications and additions that promise to make it still better than what's gone before. There's a Japanese approach to continuous improvement often refered to as 'kaizen,' and it's hard not to see its application in Fujifilm's approach to its X series cameras.

So, at its heart, the X100T shares its core features: the 16 megapixel CMOS sensor with X-Trans color filter array and excellent 23mm f/2 lens with its predecessor, the X100S. But almost everything beyond that has been reworked, re-assessed or refined.

Key Features:

  • 16MP X-Trans CMOS II sensor (with on-sensor phase detection elements)
  • 35mm equivalent f/2 lens
  • Hybrid EVF with 2.3m dot LCD and more advanced overlays in optical mode
  • 3.0" 1.04m dot rear LCD (720 x 480 pixels)
  • Macro shooting down to 10cm (3.9")
  • Built-in Wi-Fi with remote control function
  • Rear command dial
  • Seven customizable buttons
  • Customizable Q menu
  • Built-in ND filter
  • Optional electronic shutter mode (increasing maximum shutter speed to 1/32000 sec)
  • 'Classic Chrome' film simulation mode
  • 1080p movies at 60, 50, 30, 25 and 24fps
  • Exposure control for movies
  • Built-in intervalometer
  • Stereo mic input (2.5mm-type)

Viewfinder improvements

Probably the biggest single change to the camera is the redesigned hybrid viewfinder. Part of X100's appeal was its clever viewfinder that had an electronic viewfinder mode or an optical mode in which shooting settings could be overlaid. The X100T's finder gains a 2.3m dot LCD panel but also adds a darkened 'tab' that can pop up in the optical finder, to allow projected information to be clearly seen in all lighting conditions. That tab means that the camera's Digital Split Image manual focus system can be used in conjunction with the optical viewfinder mode to give a rangefinder-like manual focus experience.

Cleverly, it has has been added without the need for any extra control points: the small lever on the front of the camera that switched to the electronic viewfinder in previous models can now also be nudged to the left to engage the in-viewfinder tab.

The X100T gains a pop-up tab (indicated as 'Optical image shielding' in this diagram), that allows the EVF information to be clearly projected into the viewfinder. This means an enlarged version of the focus point or the camera's 'Digital Split Image' focus guide can be seen in optical viewfinder mode, giving a rangefinder-like real-time focusing experience.

The optics of the viewfinder have been adjusted so that it provides coverage of 92% of the final image, when used in optical mode. This figure refers to the framing offered by the 'brightlines' shown in the finder - they're less than 100% because the actual field-of-view changes, based on focus distance: the 92% coverage is a compromise between the field-of-view and closest focus and at infinity. In addition, the camera gains the rapid 54 fps, 0.005sec lag screen refresh first seen in the X-T1.

Various other details of the viewfinder behavior have also been changed, including smaller, cleaner in-viewfinder graphics which shift to match the camera's orientation. Additionally the framing guides and focus point adjust to take parallax into account in real time, meaning you shouldn't have to focus and recompose at close focus distances. The viewfinder can also offer a wide dynamic range 'natural' live view mode as well as 'Shooting Effect Reflection' mode that shows the effect of the tone curve, white balance and color response of the current shooting settings.

As well as improvements to the viewfinder, Fujifilm has also upgraded the rear LCD. The X100T's 3.0", 1.04m dot panel is a big improvement over the 460k dot, 2.8" LCD that always looked like the weakest point of the X100S's specification.

Added features

The X100T also adds a fully electronic shutter mode. This enables totally silent operation and increases the maximum shutter speed to an impressive 1/32000 sec. There is a risk of rolling shutter when the electronic shutter is used, so it can be turned on and off if you prefer.

Viewed from above, the added range of the exposure compensation dial is immediately apparent. What can't be seen is that the aperture ring can be adjusted in 1/3EV steps, rather than whole-stop increments.

The X100T also sees substantial refinements when it comes to exposure. The camera's aperture ring has been modified, so that it can now be controlled in 1/3 f-stops, rather than the whole stops that the existing models offered. The exposure compensation dial has also been amended so that it now extends to +/- 3EV - something existing users had been calling out for. The other big change, in terms of exposure control is that the X100T retains the ability to apply exposure compensation when using Auto ISO in manual exposure mode, meaning that you can choose shutter speed, aperture and image brightness and let the camera do the work.

Although superficially similar, close examination reveals that the case (on the left) has been refined, with less of a protrusion behind the hotshoe. There's also a control dial at the top right, with an additional customizable button to its left. The knurling on the dials has been revised, too.

The X100T's button layout now more closely resembles those of the X-T1 - though those on the right aren't as recessed as those on its interchangeable lens cousin. The X100T gets a four-way controller, rather than the rather fiddly wheel featured on the previous model.

The other prominent change is the inclusion of a larger, more detailed rear LCD panel.

The back of the camera gains a full control dial, rather than the push/toggle switch on the back of the existing models (though the finer-grained control of the aperture ring reduces how often you'll need it). Usability is also increased with the decision to make seven of the camera's buttons customizable and to allow the user to change the options included in the camera's Q.Menu, to speed access to their most-used settings.

The camera's autofocus system has also been overhauled. The first addition is the inclusion of Face Detection - something we noted as missing from the existing models. There's also an option to tie spot auto exposure mode to the selected AF point, if you wish.

The final addition is the inclusion of the 'Classic Chrome' film simulation mode, first seen in the X30. Unlike existing film simulation modes this doesn't attempt to mimic one of Fujifilm's film stocks, instead offering a simulation of Kodachrome. As with previous X100 series cameras, the X100T allows film simulation bracketing or the ability to retrospectively apply different film simulations via its in-camera Raw converter.


If you're new to digital photography you may wish to read the Digital Photography Glossary before diving into this article (it may help you understand some of the terms used).

Conclusion / Recommendation / Ratings are based on the opinion of the reviewer, you should read the ENTIRE review before coming to your own conclusions.

We recommend to make the most of this review you should be able to see the difference (at least) between X,Y and Z and ideally A,B and C.

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Timmbits

back when the first X100 came out, it was certainly a pertinent camera.
today, we have seen what we can expect in compact zoom cameras, from the likes of LX100 and G1Xii.
imo Fuji should get the X100Z out already, with some kind of a good zoom on it.
at this size and price point, definitely!

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PKSPhoto

Just wondering when the full review of the X100T will be completed..it's been since last September and still not completed...???...

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marc petzold

Aside the usual suspects, updated parts for the X100T, i can say the same as months ago - when DPR posted the picture X100T besides the X100S - the newer "T" Model is cheaper for Fuji to produce, for instance the knurled dials, the easier buttons, now only in white & round than rectangular, not one green anymore...when you produce much that might in come handy, saving some costs, as is the backside something more simple made than the X100S.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/fujifilm-X100T/Images/Compared_X100S.jpg

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jadot

No, what you say doesn't make sense.
If Fuji wanted to save money on parts they surely wouldn't have re-designed buttons and so on (which is negligible at best) but instead would have kept the old chassis and updated the internals only.
Re-tooling the machines needed to accommodate the re-design would no doubt cost more than just keeping the old parts.
White round buttons are cheaper than oval green ones?! Is that a joke?!!
As with all (most) design, simplification and ergonomics are key, but not necessarily an indicator of cost cutting - usually quite the opposite.
Apart from anything, the T shows a refinement and maturity going forward. More sleek and lean. More functional and less pastiche.

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jadot

And lastly, if what you say were actually true (it isn't, at least for the reasons you state) and Fuji's parts were 'Cheaper", then so what?The camera still occupies the right market value, and Fuji get to make more money which means they get to produce better cameras in the future. That's how tech works. What do you think cost Apple more to produce, relatively speaking - The iPhone 6 or the first iPhone? There's more to take into consideration than the cost of a few buttons. There's volume, R&D, suppliers, and available technology, amongst other things.

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solomon barket

I have the Fuji X100s. I have the firmware Version 1.03 Is it worth updating to the new version? I am afraid that once you update you can't go back to the old version. Should I leave well enough alone, or update? Thanks.

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darngooddesign

Look at the new features and decide for yourself, but I haven't heard of any issues.

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BobFoster

The X100S/T’s image quality is by no means excellent (I had the the ‘S’ for a few months). It’s very susceptible to lens flare, and the X-Trans files are a matter of taste to put it mildly. It looks cool, the chassis is high quality but the lens is merely passable and sensor is odd. I would say 3.5 stars, given the price.

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UnitedNations

Too bad Fuji messed up their JPEG engine after the 1st generation X cameras(x100, x-e1, x-pro1). The rendering aesthetic, colour, & dynamic range of the newer 2nd & 3rd generation Fuji Cameras are all inferior now, & until Fuji fixes this I will not be buying another Fuji Camera. Just waiting to see what they do with the X-pro-2 now... Please bring back the OLD 1st generation JPEG engine & rendering aesthetics. Despite all these new performance related functions added to the x100t it will still never match the awe inspiring & mature rendering characteristics of the first generation x100. Ultimately image is what matters.

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danstern

Can someone confirm or add insight on UnitedNations comment. I have a X100 and I have heard this criticism before. I held off on getting the X100s but would like the improvements on the X100T like faster and more accurate AF than my x100 and a few other improvements but not at the cost of crappy/watercolor muddy JPEG's…. any one want to add their expertise? BTW UnitedNations i am not questioning you, its just that I am not knowledgeable to confirm. If this is true then the same must apply to the XT-1 as well.

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happyass

I agree with UnitedNations. I had the X100S and still have the X100. I only shoot JPEG and much prefer the X100 when shooting portraits of my family. I was hoping they fixed this with the X100T since I LOVE the new Classic Chrome filter

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hoe117

Hi everyone, since X100T support USB charging, does it mean I can use power bank to charge it, just like charging the smart phone?

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sbuk73

I've just started playing with my X100T and I see no reason why you cannot use an external USB battery charge pack to do it as you do with a smart phone etc.

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KarimPhoto

Hey everyone, Today I'm shooting with a 5d Mark II but will buy my second cam now. I going to use it as a backup, street photo and everyday camera... I really like something more compact then my 5d.

Can you tell me why I should go for the X100T instead of the X-T1 + a similar leans??

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Donnie AI

I don't have any of the X100 series but I could answer based on an X-E1 which is a little similar to it in terms of design. If you will do street shooting, X100T wins it. Its discreet and light and it gives a nice 35mm equivalent. The X-T1 is bigger and much more with the grip. Its the one to go if u plan on using bigger lenses in the future. Of course vs your 5D II its still smaller and lighter and being an ILC has its advantage VS the X100T. You cant go wrong with the 2 but if its purely street shooting is what you plan on doing, X100T is the way to go.

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Joed700

You are better off by getting the Canon 6D as your primary and use your 5D II as a backup. Since you are already shooting FF, it's not wise getting into the XT-1 and ended up buying a bunch of lenses for an APS-C sensor body. I shot FF, X100s and XT-1 side by side, and I have decided to switch back to FF because of DOF issues with APS-C. Based on my experience with the Fuji X series, the X100s has very good color renditions, but the XT-1 is a bit too saturated in most cases. Think of the X100T as a very expensive 35mm f/2 lens, but you are really getting way more DOF compared to a true 35mm f/2 in FF. Use a DOF calculator and find out what the true DOF at f/2 for an APS-C is and see you can live with it.

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KarimPhoto

Hi and thanks for your feedback.

I'm going to use my 5D as primary camera and need a backup. I need something compact but it need to be a good compliment if something happens to my 5D. The question now is if the fix lens on the X100T is going to be a problem? I'm in the field of photojournalism and travel a lot so don't like to get a bunch of lenses to carry around...

X100T looks and feel great but I'm still a bit afraid that I'm going to be too limited...?

Would love to receive more feedback on options!
Thanks,
Karim
www.karimphoto.com

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Graham Austin

If you want a second camera to chuck in your pocket with a fixed lens and amazing image quality I would look at the Ricoh GR, it really is a stunning little camera and if you look at the studio tests on this site it really does impress. Manual control, large sensor, fast lens, premium build and pocket-able, the only thing some might want is a zoom...

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DonalHickey

I used the X-10 and loved it. Then the X-20 and loved it. Then the X-30 came out and had the same sensor size as my X-20. No real progression. I sold it and researched for weeks for a replacement. I am now using a compact that I will probably never replace. The under-rated street animal that is the Ricoh GR. I really like the X-100 range but this upgrade reminds me of the X-20/X-30 upgrade. Basically the same camera, so what's the point? Can this fit in my jeans pocket? No. Does it have snap focus? No. Are the Raw files easily processed? No. Is it worth the cost? No. My GR has double the battery life, I don't need camera straps or bags, the Mono images are incredible and it's got a big sensor. Sorry Fuji, I ain't interested.

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ChrisKramer1

I had a Ricoh GR and yes, it is a nice camera and has exceptionally good image quality. However, there are people who carry it around in their pockets to find that dust has entered the lens. There are so many reports of this that it is impossible to ignore. And I found the battery life to be REALLY bad. Once you put the GR in a case and take two spare batteries with you it ceases to be so much smaller than that Fuji X100T.

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Ghostbow

I completely agree. The Ricoh GR is a phenomenal camera.
I carry one with me everywhere I go. With the last firm wear update it has become an ultimate camera for how I take pictures. With improved low light auto focus in combination with macro and spot focus I am getting amazing images in jpeg.

And yes, you have to be careful with any fixed lens camera when it comes to dust. This is not a unique GR problem. Putting a camera in a pocket is asking for trouble. I carry mine in a Case Logic case in my messenger bag. No dust. Simple.

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Goldenmom

I just received my black X100T from Kenmore Camera. I have an X100S that I love, but the right button on the 4-way controller doesn't work reliably, and there are usability quirks in the X100S that make me crazy, thus the upgrade. Best features for me so far:

--Being able to use the 4-way controller to move the focus point immediately (and the buttons are NICE--easily pressed by feel, unlike the XT1).

--Macro is now a toggle--press once to turn macro on, press again to turn it off. This is set as one of my three FN buttons.

Things I don't love:

--The location of the Play button on the X100S is now the VIEW MODE button. That means whenever I try to sneak a peak at a shot through the viewfinder, I end up having to toggle through the view modes instead. This is something I'll have to re-learn.

--On the X100S, I could press AFL/AEL to lock the current focus without refocusing. Not so on the X100T--pressing that button refocuses. This is going to be a big pain point for me.

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Greg7579

I shoot w the 5DIII at home with multiple Speedlites and grab my wonderful XT-1 for travel or hiking. So I have plenty of camera.... but I want this x100T so badly..... but with those two great cameras in the bag already, what would it give me? A great pocket camera. So small. So light. Superb fast fixed lens. As good image quality as the XT-1. Can always have it with me. Can unobtrusively add it to the bag for travel. What else? Tell me why I should drop another 1300 bucks on a third camera. I want it. But it makes no sense. I already have the great Fuji XT-1. Any other Xt-1 owners out there who want this camera?

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mack13

I have the X-T1 too... the main reason I'm considering this X100T is that Fuji doesn't offer a 23mm pancake for the X-T1. The 27mm is close... which I have and use often... but it's not a 23mm.

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Biro

I just pulled the trigger on a pre-order for an X100T. I've wanted one since the beginning and I'm finally in a place where I can afford it and don't have conflicting priorities. I'm fine working with a fixed focal length... and I can always buy the 28mm and 50mm converters. Besides, I have other cameras for whatever the X100T can't do.

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WaveDancer

Just ordered the X100 T today plus the Panasonic FZ1000 together with a lot of gear. This will cover most of my ambitions of foto- and videography for the comming years.

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vadims

DPR, focal length is missing from the specs (p. 2).

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Jay Hook

I like it because it is easy to operate and takes excellent pics. My gallery has improved vastly.

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Mr N

Hello everyone, I've always wanted to buy the Fujifilm X100 series camera ever since they had come out. I was in college back then and it was out of my price range, and so I kept putting it off forever. I am an architect but mostly I take street photography and some architecture details (barely to be honest), could any of you guys give me a thumbs up if you think I should just go for it instead of any other camera for my use ? I know I won't be able to take wide angle shots but that's okay, I never photograph an entire building only parts of it. Thanks in advance, also the colour in the beta sample gallery seems weird, I hope I can change this, any X100 series users out there., some input would be great.

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darngooddesign

Sounds like it would be a good fit for you. You can rent one first to make sure you like it, and by the same token, for the odd occasions you need wider angle shots you can rent a different camera.

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Timmbits

A Fuji camera I loved, was the XS1. Awesome zoom range, the best controls ever, but alas, a small sensor. It helped me appreciate, and love, great controls.
My package, is a Samsung NX20. It is smaller than this camera, yet, has great controls and more flexible. They make some nice pancake lenses. 16mmじゅうろくみり f2.4, 20mm f2.8, 30mmf2.0, and an awesome 45mm f1.8. Many would say my camera is outdated, but I feel it is better than locking myself in with an over-priced fixed lens camera. Years ago, when the X100 came out, it was interesting, offering retro styling, one lens simplicity, APS sensor. But today, for the money, and size, you can do better. There's the LX100 with a fast lens. Or the GX7 which has nice retro styling and good ergonomics. And they have some reasonably good pancake lenses that would allow you to have a compact overall package smaller than the X100 - well, smaller actually - for a similar total package price, and Panasonic has just as nice styling as the Fuji.

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darngooddesign

The LX100, while being less expensive, gives inferior high-iso performance. The LX100's EVF is not as good, and while the GX7 has an equal EVF, it does not have the new hybrid viewfinder with the EVF focusing overlay on the OVF.

You can call the X100T overpriced if you do not value the features it has, but currently there is no other camera that offers everything it has.

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kreislauf

while it is true what you say about worse iso performance, you won't believe that people really can live with it!

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Joed700

I think buying a used one from eBay is your best bet. A used X100s is about $700 on eBay. If you're not happy with it, sell it back for about the same price. If you get a brand new X100T, you will lose a least a few hundred dollars the minute you open the box. Used equipment is the way to go.

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Mr N

Thank you all for your replies and your time. I shall consider everything here, but it is true that I am a stickler for image performance at high ISO ranges, inevitably most of my shots are taken in low light for a specific dramatic reasons. I've been looking at panasonic cameras too, I think they make really good cameras at a lower price but the image quality does take a toll at high iso. I used to own one. The canon is a really good choice, always produces brilliant images.

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Craig Atkinson

you can get the x100s for £650 refurbished, or the xt1 for 900 with the 18-55...

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Timmbits

@darngooddesign, could you point us to the test comparison where this does better than other cameras in high ISO?

Does this prism stuff rob you of any of the light to the sensor, as was the case with the Sony Alpha prism design? (-30%)?

The optical overlay is cute. It is one of those features that helps distinguish it from the others. But if you have to pay more, I think not. Especially when for the extra money, you could have a build-in (fixed) zoom lens instead, like on the G1Xii. You need to distinguich between important features and nice-to-haves.

You were paying extra for all that optical overlay stuff in the previous generations... and for what? They are obsoleted with this model telling you it wasn't good and that this is good now. So why waste the extra cash for it?

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darngooddesign

All things being equal, larger sensors have better high ISO performance than smaller sensors. Set a m4/3 camera to the same focal length and aperture as the X100, and the X100 will also produce shallower depth of field.

Ignoring the fact that the T's EVF is better than the LX100's, the optical overlay is more than just "cute". OVFs work better in bright sunlight, they consume far less power, and they allow you to frame your shots better because you can see moving subjects as they move into the frame.

How is the previous X100S' optical overlay obsolete? Fuji just added an EVF focusing overlay to the OVF and framing lines that dynamically move on the T as opposed to moving when you half press the shutter release as on the S.

As you said, whether its a hybrid viewfinder or fixed zoom lens, its up to the consumer to decide which features are more important.

PS. I like the LX100; its what I hoped the X30 would have become.

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Treking

https://www.flickr.com/photos/treking/11468238376/
Hello friends, I can see how I use the X100 for architecture, landscape and macro results are extraordinary color and definition, I have a Full-Frend the X100 is not far behind. Greetings.

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Mr N

I got it, I love it.

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Timmbits

this is a nice camera...
but in the age of the LX100, it prices itself out of it's own market segment, when for the same size, or smaller, the LX100 offers a more flexible lens and still a decent sensor (even though it's not as large).

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jdgsiddhartha

Like comparing apples and pears… not the same camera, not for same photographers…

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Timmbits

My Samsung NX20 with a 30mm f2 lens is the same size as this, and I like it better. (just a friendly jab at you) ;) Not only the LX100, the G1Xii as well, are very interesting.

When the X100 came out, it offered a large sensor in a small package. But we are now in 2014. I feel that for the money, they could offer more. Bells and whistles might be used to justify price, but when it's outdated, you'll wish more for a better lens than bells and whistles that have no consequence on the flexibility of your lens.

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Timmbits

update: scratch that, regarding the Canon G7X (CA fringing).
But for the same overall package, and not a lens that extends, you might like to look at the Panasonic GX7 with one of the pancake primes. Or if you don't care for a VF, the NX300. Or if you really want small but with a large sensor, the Pana GM5.

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darngooddesign

The GX7 is a good option if you want a smaller sensor and don't care about having a hybrid viewfinder.

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Craig Atkinson

here's a question. Why, when the AF is so good and pretty fast do people make such a fuss of the new MF feature EVF in OVF? Technologically a great feature, but what benefit does MF have over AF?

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Michaeljiang

In some complex situation, AF doesn't work as you want it to, so MF can help.

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Stewart Waller

I have always focused and set all exposures manually, from sports to portraits to nature. I'm not interested in being limited to focus points or having to center focus and move the camera; just want to focus on whatever I choose anywhere within the composition without having to think about it.

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Timmbits

enters the touch-sceen point focus

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darngooddesign

With such a nice hybrid viewfinder, why on earth would hold your camera out in front of you like its a smartphone?

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Timmbits

@Craig: I don't think there is a clear-cut answer to your question, because it depends very much on the camera and lens. Different systems have different weaknesses. So it is nice to be able to overcome that. And when shooting with a large aperture, manual focus just gives you more control over what objects you want in focus and which you want defocused.

@darngooddesign: sometimes I'm not even in a position, physically, where it is possibe to stick my head up to the camera to look through a viewfinder. and FYI, you do not need to hold it out with your arm stretched. you can hold it close to you, at your waist, beside you... in fact, in much more positions than you might think.

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darngooddesign

Unless you are getting a waist level shot I just can't see using a camera with such a nice viewfinder like a smartphone. You can still crouch down for a lot of those shots.

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pavi1

How is the write time with the X100T? It is forever with the X100 compared to every other digital camera I have used

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pavi1

Looks like no one knows.

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jacksonkwan

for the X100 it all depends on the type of card you use, I use a high speed SD card and my write speeds are very fast on my X100.

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pavi1

I use a 95MB/s Sandisk Extreme Pro and the write times are on par with my Nikon CP5000. You can light a joint and take 1 1/2 hits while it writes one picture.

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Timmbits

@pavi1: how about in terms of sips of beer? I don't smoke... perhaps you can give us time in beer-sips instead, so the rest of us can relate?

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pavi1

4+seconds to record 1 picture. How many sips of beer that? Compared to my D300S which will record 1 picture so fast you can barely get your eye away from the viewfinder quick enough to see the record light go off. Recording raw format on both cameras. Strange thing is the Fuji does not noticeably change record time from raw to smallest jpg. Maybe I should shoot a video for you as you appear not to have another camera to compare to your
X100

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Timmbits

@pavi1: relax man. it is not "my" x100. I was merely making a joke.

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pavi1

I was just supplying information. You were making weak jokes.

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darngooddesign

Write time on the X100 was significantly reduced with a fast SD card, like 80mb/s.

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Timmbits

@pavi1, if you want to be like that...
I would say, it was too much information, about your drug addiction.

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Deardorff

Shutter lag time?

Does the AutoFocus equal the better SLR's on the market. Like the step down from the top Canon 5DmkIII?

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palinode

I haven't tried the X100t, but my -s certainly doesn't have the fastest autofocus. It's not terrible, but in some conditions it will hunt or even focus on an area of high contrast in the background. After a while you learn its tricks and it isn't an issue, but for someone coming from a 5D III it would take some getting used to.

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bilbob2014

there is a lot to love about the x series but the AF is garbage. i really hate to say it but its true.. trying to take a photo of a person in low light has them running for cover from the bright blue/white AF assist lamp, and even with the lamp it hunts and hunts and then finally focuses incorrectly on the background. this fills me with dread but i still have the camera because the quality when it does shoot is aboslutely phenomenal

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DanK7

The matrix of specs (I did side-by-side with X100) shows X100T Exposure Compensation as ±2 (at 1/3 EV steps). Is that a typo? I thought the X100T is ±3 (at 1/3 EV steps). Do I win a new X100T now?

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DanK7

DPR, you might need to look at this....

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Craig Atkinson

does the ND filter have an 'auto' setting or is it manual only?

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DanK7

I expect that it's the same as the X100, i.e. on or off as a menu choice.

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Craig Atkinson

That'd be a real shame. I think the VF switch goes to the left this time too and that might activate ND.

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DanK7

What the description above says about the VF switch is that " the small lever on the front of the camera that switched to the electronic viewfinder in previous models can now also be nudged to the left to engage the in-viewfinder tab. " Doesn't say anything about ND filter control, but you can choose to assign one of the function buttons to be your ND filter switch.

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stblank

Yeah that's what I do, setting my Fn button to toggle ND. Auto ND would be only another way to unintentionally sacrifice the RAF file's best quality.

1 upvote
PhotoKhan

Oh, my sweet, sweet Canon colors...

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Marcio Chicca

I have a XPro1 and am very pleased with it, however there is a serious problem that it is the On / Off button that very sensitive and often it turns on and turns itself inside the case. I am very interested in buying a camera as X100T meinha pocket, does it exhibit the same problem in the On / Off button?

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newe

I thought the S6 was coming...what happened?

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HB1969

I'm not sure where you've heard this...or if you are being serious ;) but the S-camera's used Nikon lenses, the x-cams have their own = more money for fuji.

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Naveed Akhtar

Yeah .. and considering the lenses Fuji is releasing these days, they suits more for these APSC mirrorless cams.

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pavi1

I have X100 limited edition and a Nikon D300S with 10 lenses of various but mostly top quality. I use the X100 about 1/2 of the time. Great pocket camera.

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Naveed Akhtar

no doubt it is, specially for a DSLR pro as a second camera!!

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Boss of Sony

Why is this camera getting so much attention when it's basically only got an updated viewfinder? Why don't you just add an extra page to the X100s review?

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jeremyclarke

Because the X100S was beloved by so many weirdos it blew the minds of people who didn't think a fixed prime lens camera could be useful. There are more changes in this camera than the 7DII anyway.

It has many other upgrades and the OVF update is significant considering Fuji is the only one innovating in that (albeit niche) space and this is their biggest change to it since the X-PRO1.

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Boss of Sony

Same sensor and lens means same camera.

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jeremyclarke

#trollfood

Consider that your statement implies that all film cameras that could mount the same lens are equal.

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Boss of Sony

The fact that they're posting sample shots is absurd.

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HB1969

...or use the same film :p

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HB1969

also if your name is "boss of sony" and you're making negative comments about another manufacturers cameras, then it's hard to view your opinions as entirely objective :D

If you're not interested in the camera that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion.

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jeremyclarke

HB1969 - RE film: exactly. There's more to a camera than it's "film" and lens, even if both are vital to final IQ.

He's clearly just a troll. We should ignore him but I'm a sucker.

Of course, I agree that posting sample shots is pretty unnecessary. Even Fuji isn't claiming any IQ changes, just the same excellent IQ as before in a more useful and feature-rich package. The samples are simply part of the process for DPReview and at worst confirm that nothing has gotten worse (though I usually find the samples all messed up by too much sharpening etc, so I have to remind myself that my photos will look better ;)

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Boss of Sony

I'm the boss of sony, but I've never used a sony camera. I do not own a camera, but am thinking of buying a Ricoh GR or Panasonic LX100, unless something better comes out.

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HB1969

Boss of Sony: "...I do not own a camera..."

That's a very telling comment ;)

I haven't used a Ricoh since the film days but the GR looks like a great camera- large sensor, low price (relatively speaking), good IQ. It should be a good purchase. I know very little about the Panasonic. Generally speaking, any camera you purchase these days is going to give you great results. You'll only see a difference if you're a pixel-peeper, make large prints or crop excessively.

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Naveed Akhtar

Boss of Sony .. go for LX100 mate!!
but if you are after a fix lens prime type .. nothing comes close to X100*

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darngooddesign

Why did the RX100v3 need a new review?

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dahod

I've been thinking about Fuji for a bit but seem to recall there was an issue with post-processing X-Trans RAW files and 3rd party software support. Can someone please tell me if that's been adressed?

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atone2

X-trans rendering in Lightroom = horrible

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jeremyclarke

Lots of professionals and amateurs find Lightroom and Aperture support for X-Trans to be completely acceptable in 2014.

Atone2 should link to examples of people demostrating the continued (in the past there were issues) failures of Lightroom to deal with Fuji RAW files.

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dahod

Thanks Jeremy - I see that Mark Soon (FStop Lounge) has posted examples of "smudged details" in LightRoom 5.4 vs Iridient Developer 2.4 (http://fstoplounge.com/2014/05/fuji-x-tran-raw-processing-done-right/). Is this something that you've encountered? Also, others seem to be using workarounds (ie conversion outside to TIFF and importing to LR. I have LR 4 so would I have to upgrade to LR 5?

Dave

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jeremyclarke

You'd definitely want to use the latest LR possible for Fuji files (and anything else really, but Fuji in particular).

I don't actually use Lightroom, I chose Aperture (wrong choice looking back) and Fuji files work great in it. My comment was a summary of every reasonable person I've heard from who does use LR for Fuji though.

As to smudged details it's always struck me as a very random occurrence that only applies to very specific subjects and only when you zoom all the way in. Normal people taking their usual photos are unlikely to notice.

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Freddell

I recently downloaded dpreview RAW files from the studio shot comparison o compare a few cameras in Lightroom 5.7. From that analysis: Nikon Df, 750, Canon 6D, XT-1 it was clear that LR still has the same issue with X-trans sensor as described elsewhere, shadows turn black etc. So Lightroom is still not perfect in its latest incarnation.

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GabrielZ

I really like this camera in almost every way, but I'd still prefer the flexibility of a built-in zoom rather than a fixed focal length lens, even if it makes it a little less compact. Also as others have mentioned here, an ISO speed dial instead of the exp-comp one would be preferable. Still...a beautiful little bit of kit! I've always had a soft spot for Fujifilms X-series.

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peevee1

Pana LX100 is not even less compact, it is both smaller and lighter, and f/1.7 at wide end makes it about equivalent to the slightly larger sensor of Fuji in low light. But you get both wider and longer focal lenghts/perspectives, better viewfinder, just as good controls, faster shooting and much better video (even 4k!) - all that for $400 less.
I cannot imagine anybody choosing Fuji X100T over LX100 other than complete fanboys.

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Matz03

I'm a huge panasonic fan but the X100T has an OVF which is still very useful, leaf shutter, much better high iso performance and lets not forget those fuji colors. The LX100 seems pretty sweet though.

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BarnET

The LX100 has a leaf shutter too.
Fuji colours well you can always buy the Leica D-lux type 109 for better colour profiles.

the OVF unique lens and high ISO are just fair points.
The Panasonic is a better video tool ofcourse.

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peevee1

"much better high iso performance "

Only if you trust Fuji with their cheating ISOs and built-in noise reduction in the X-Trans demosaicing (losing detail - you can always enable higher noise reduction with Bayer, but you cannot reduce it with X-Trans). In reality, the difference is minuscule, and all compensated by faster aperture of the LX100.

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Ribbit74

X100T also has a built-in ND filter, which combined with the leaf shutter and onboard flash, gives you a nice all-in-one package for doing fill-flash in broad daylight.

But the OIS in the LX100 would make it a tough call, if I didn't already own an X100S...

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peevee1

"Fuji colours well you can always buy the Leica D-lux type 109 for better colour profiles."

Nobody checked color profiles of LX100 yet, while assume things? All we know is Panasonic's JPEG engine improved enormously in the last years, no more green cast of the old Panasonics.

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Serious Sam

Even you give other camera a full 1 stop advantage, Fuji still better in noise performance. Play with the noise SD chart in DPR reviews and you will see the result. And M43 sensor good at noise.....nah I don't think so.

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BarnET

Consider the sensor size first.
It's 50% smaller. So it is supposed to be 1/2 stop worse then the best apsc sensors.

And it is about that.
They are not bad the size advantage comes at a small price.
It's great to have that choice on the market.
Just take a look at the lenses. A m43 system is just smaller then any Apsc system.

And let's be honest the age quality rivals Canon Apsc.
An they sell the most camera's while being larger with no advantage.

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Serious Sam

That is why i always said noise problem is built in to the sensor size. Simple law of physics. They are good for many people, just not high ISO shooting which is a small market. Most people only do it ever now and then.

Sony does very well in this segment too but its lens is just too pricy. I will for sure grap their A7S equal at 24mp thopugh......waiting waiting

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BarnET

Well it happens a lot more then people think

Last weekend in the zoo.
2 tiger cubs playing
I needed at least 1/500th to freeze the motion preferred even more.
Lens was f5.6 and it was cloudy.
I had to shoot ISO 800-1600 on the gx7

1600 is already the upper limit of good quality shots on that camera. With the old g3 I would have been out of luck.
So I embrace every improvement made.

But I also embrace the 500 gram kit instead of 2 kg the whole day.

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Serious Sam

High iso is a very technical thing and many buyer don't take that into consideration...... until they find that picture they really want to keep and then see all the noise on it....oh crap!!

M43 is still ok at 1600 and E-M1 seems to be able to handle 3200 quite will. While Fuji and (Some) Sony can go as far as 12800.

A7S of course is a total different story.....

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BarnET

No the em-1 uses a Panasonic sensor too.
Likely the gx7/gh4 without as filter.

I own the gx7 and at 3200 it falls apart.
You can go just over 1600 if you have to. But 3200 becomes thrash.

That said the g3 was thrash above 800 and the 12mp Olympus I had was even worse. So they have made improvements that make me shoot in conditions I had to take the big gun in the past.

My k30 known for it's high iso capability can do 2/3rd stop better.
The Fuji's even more but they cheat. Overrating their iso's.
Some raw editing software also reduced noise while demosaicing. Leading to the conclusions of it's abilities.

Still you can get better high iso files out of these 16mp apsc bodies.
Just the laws of physics really.

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peevee1

"Even you give other camera a full 1 stop advantage, Fuji still better in noise performance. Play with the noise SD chart in DPR reviews and you will see the result. "

I did.
Unlike you, I also looked at apertures and shutter speed values.
Unlike you, I also looked at the level of detail left.

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Serious Sam

BarnET

When you read the noise SD chart in DPR, your have to compare Fuji values 2/3 stop down. And to be honest they still turn out better, and so as the studio scene. I have play with both so often, if you believe DPR data, just purely on noise performance, A7S is on its own league follow by Nikon FF and 1DX, then X-trans follow by the lates Sony APS-C.

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Serious Sam

peevee1

Its just different workflow. Fuji X-Trans shooter grown to trust the Jpeg engine and value the time you save in post production. Thankly I can't say the same for another except Nikon (in some situation only).

As apertures and shutter speed goes, they are so important to me hence I stay with Fuji. I cannot find a system that cost around $1500 that gives me two zooms under F5 plus a ultra wide lens that let me shoot at 1/250 @ iso 6400. If you know of one, please let me know.

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peevee1

Nikon's JPEG has been a complete abomination until last year, especially at high ISO, their noise reduction algorithm was splashing mucus-like colors all over people's faces. Thankfully, it has become decent with the recent releases. Canon and Olympus are just as reliable, although Canon, just like Fuji, tends to render a little too warm compared to reality by default (nothing that cannot be changed by a simple color adjustment), and Olympus is TOO realistic when "Keep Warm Color" option is on in incandescent light situations.

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Serious Sam

When you use in build JPEG, you have to tweak the build in settings. Here is where EVF comes to play especially the 2+ mdots ones as it shows you what exactly your picture looks like.

I admit that Jpeg shooting is not for everyone and FUJI raw need to develop with Capture One which sucks. However as far as JPEG engine quality and ISO performance above 1600 at this price point, It is really hard to beat.

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peevee1

Sure, and every competitor but Canon has EVFs.

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John Gellings

GabrielZ, please go buy something else if you want a zoom... and leave this camera for those of us who don't want a zoom.

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JMichaelsPhoto

I would have liked a dedicated ISO dial instead of ex. comp. I don't know why this bothers me about this camera. It's awesome in every other way, but if retro styling is part of the design, I don't know why there isn't one. But I suppose if I've put up with a lack of any such dials on my Nikon DSLRs, I can live without it on this camera. But why? It's retro. I guess I just don't see how an ex. comp. dial is more useful than an ISO dial on a digital camera. That's my only real complaint.

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jeremyclarke

+1 I wish the standard was an ISO dial on top and the ability to modify EXP.Comp on the fly by turning the command dial (focus zoom wheel on the back).

I so often get wrong exposure because i forget about the Exp Comp dial, I don't think it needs to be so "permanent" and would rather be able to wuickly see what the ISO value is by looking at the camera.

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jeremyclarke

At least auto-iso will work in manual A+manual S mode now. The fact that it doesn't on my X-E1 (and up to X-T1 until the firmware update) is the main reason I ever even have to change the ISO).

If they'd give us a target F stop (i.e. to get as shallow DoF as the sun will allow) the way they give us a target minimum shutter speed for auto ISO then I'd only need to set the ISO when doing flash work.

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peevee1

I don't agree. ISO is a completely artificial construct, nobody shoud care at what ISO they shoot. Brightness of the picture, DoF and amount of motion in the picture are parameters which matter. If one of the first 2 doesn't matter for you for a specific shot, leave it in auto and camera will choose the best ISO possible. Controlling all 4 at the same time is not possible, any 3 determine the 4th. Don't try to be a control freak and force 2*2=5.

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pavi1

Auto iso works in manual mode on the X100.

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jeremyclarke

Pavi1, I think the problem is that in that scenario auto-ISO completely ignore the exposure compensation dial, which effectively means it doesn't work.

Does that apply to your camera? I think the new feature added to the latest cameras was making the exposure compensation dial function normally, but ultimately the effect is that you can use auto ISO in manual whereas it was terrible to use before.

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pavi1

Exposure compensation does nothing in manual. It does not matter if using auto iso or fixed iso. On my D300S, exposure compensation only changes the meter, not the exposure unless you change A or S or ISO to recenter the meter.

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jeremyclarke

Pavi1, see that's the thing. At least on the Fuji cameras the auto-iso feature should work perfectly when you have a manually set aperture+shutter, since the exposure compensation can control the Auto-ISO. The problem was that old models didn't work that way, but now the newer models (and firmware-updated old ones) will.

Once I have that I'll only need to use manual ISO at times when the range of the exposure compensation can't cover the situation, which in turn happens all the time on my X-E1 because it only has +-2, but will be less common on the newer cameras where exposure compensation goes to +-3

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pavi1

Forget what I said above on how exposure compensation works on D300S in Manual mode and Auto-ISO. I had never really used it in manual other than to see it move the light meter. In M mode aperture 1.4, shutter speed 1/250, exp comp 0, Auto-ISO uses 1600. I set exposure comp to -1 and ISO changes to 800 and picture is darker, set exposure comp to +1 and ISO changes to 3200 and picture is brighter. I suppose that could be useful.

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spontaneousservices

@peevee "ISO is a completely artificial construct" this must be the most ludricous statement on the whole forum. Remember, we're talking DIGITAL here. The amplification of the signal from the sensor, together with the shutter, is the only thing the camera body has to manipulate exposure. Back in film days, yes you put in a roll of film and the next 36 exposures were at a given ISO. That was then. This is now: every next scene you can - and often should - change ISO.

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spontaneousservices

no flip screen, no dedicated ISO wheel, no 50mm equivalent lens -
but what the heck! it IS a very very attractive little camera...
I must try one in store and maybe I buy it...
After all you can crop till 50mm equivalent and still have, what, 12MP?

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Anton Marcu

It would certainly be off my list if it DID have a tilt screen and 50mm lens, I find 50mm too restrictive for general, single-lens use. For the occasional time when I really need 50mm, I attach the 50mm TCL converter.

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jeremyclarke

Yeah what are you saying "no 50mm equivalent lens"? It explicitly does have that in the form of the TCL attachment (which has great IQ AFAIK).

If you're only going to have one lens then =35 is a very popular choice these days, and the converters for this camera make it pretty special compared to the competition.

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spontaneousservices

50mm is restrictive, that's absolutely true. Which is why I at least make better pictures with it. And yes 35mm is the norm these days. What can I say. I find it a bland FOV - not forcing you to make choices while staying at a safe distance from the subject. Or forcing you too close to the subject to avoid wide-angleish - distortion.
And again the teleconverter is a huge, obtrusive, ehm, piece of non-starter.

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JonB1975

Reading this it sounds like if you change a button in the Q-menu, there's no way at all of changing it again or changing back to the original setting... can this be right???

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surelythisnameisfree

I'm almost certain that's not the case

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Richard Butler

I'll update the text to clarify that. You can change it back, but you have to rember what the option was - as soon as you enter the screen to look through the other options, there's no 'cancel' button.

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maxnimo

I bet if you reload the firmware, the Q-menu will reset to default.

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Richard Butler

Yes, you can reset the entire Setup menu to revert to defaults.

I'm going to clarify the text now - I can see I didn't make it very clear.

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jeremyclarke

I just read it and it makes sense. You just need to remember that when you replace something it will be gone unless you reset everything.

Maybe the essence is: "There is no way to reset a single slot, only all at once, so beware".

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Richard Butler

@jeremyclarke - that's good, it suggests I've made it a little clearer.

It's not so much that there's no way to reset slots one at a time, it's that you need to reset every change you've made to the Setup menu in order to reset the Q Menu (meaning all the system sounds turn back on and the four-way controller reverts to Fn mode, etc).

Equally, if you select a slot to change and then decide not to, there's no way of cancelling - you can only get the original setting back by remembering what it was.

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geetees2

It's interesting how a user's equivalent-FOV requirements - e.g."I need a 35mm E-FOV" - translate on APS-C sensors as a wider-angle lens (in this case about 24mm), including what appears to be a more pronounced effect on perspective as well as increased DOF.
While perspective correction and DOF adjustment are possible in software, how much do we want to tie ourselves to these routines?
Alternatively, should we bother trying to control perspective and DOF at the point of making the picture, at all?

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Richard Butler

Perspective is purely a function of camera to subject distance, which in turn is usually defined by the framing that the angle of view gives you.

Since this lens and a 35mm lens on full frame will give the same angle of view, it's reasonable to assume you'll shoot from the same distance, relative to the subject, and thus get the same perspective.

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venancio

I got carried away by the FUJI marketing guys when they claimed that the X series is the LEICA alternative... so I waited for a LEICA full frame alternative and just got iteration after iteration of 16mp APSC... I guess what the marketing guys showed was that FUJI is the LEICA of 16 mp APSC... something that's almost as good as a full frame... so this X100T could be it... but if FUJI could only make a full frame, they can completely claim that this full frame is almost as good as a medium format camera, and that could make a lot of guys like me happier... and FUJI does not have to be pigeon-holed as a LEICA wanna be anymore...

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colonel444

I've never seen any FUJI marketing guys claimed that the X series is the LEICA alternative. From users and reviewers, sure.

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d3xmeister

I will only buy one when it'll have a large format sensor. FF just does not cut it for me, is too damn tiny.

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brownie314

Who needs FF? This little guy will wipe the floor with a Leica sensor.

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jeremyclarke

The new Leica 16mp APSC cameras are out and they are ugly, have weird buttons, no features and are just a bit more expensive than the Fuji alternative.

It's an interesting world where Fuji gets to literally compete with Leica and Fuji actually comes out on top.

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jeremyclarke

Also +1 to no FF sensors. We don't need it. The IQ off the sensor is already excellent and low noise and the size means Fuji can give us cheap, ultra-fast lenses that are small and light.

Who would buy a FF Fuji? Everyone would say "I'd buy it but there's no lenses for it!" At least the a7 can use the old Sony SLT lenses with an ugly adaptor, a Fuji FF camera would be trapped with nothing but lenses adapted from other systems.

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Naveed Akhtar

@jeremy agree mate, still it can be released with a kit lens for start, not as ideal as Sony camp but am sure many can deal with it. The biggest concern is what for? Fuji X Trans is every bit as good and competitive. Dof freaks maybe want sinething more, but then Fuji can always make faster lenses, and it's producing them anyways. ..

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WGVanDyck

jeremyclarke, good posts and I have enjoyed your point of view. In reference to the idea that no one would buy a Fuji FF camera due to lack of lenses, wasn't that the situation when they released the X-Pro1? It was quite popular and grew into a complete line of excellent lenses and alternative bodies rather quickly.

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jeremyclarke

WGVanDyck: I agree and it's somewhat comparable. In both cases it's a huge gamble on people's interest and willingness to gamble on future plans to release a full lens lineup.

That said, they still aren't making money on the X series, so I doubt they are eager to make more big bets at this point. They also haven't finished with the APSC lens lineup yet, so news that they were starting a new lineup for FF would strike a lot of people as evidence that Fuji is flailing (the same accusation constantly leveled at Sony for NEX then for a7 mount, though it hasn't stopped the a7 from being an object-of-desire).

Also people understood it the first time because Fuji was starting from scratch. Of course there were only a few lenses! If they did a similar thing now a lot of their existing customers would feel cheated because they have to start all over to get the best of Fuji.

Anyway, not impossible that they'd release a larger sensor and new lenses, just unlikely for now IMHO.

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WGVanDyck

All good points, jeremyclarke. It will be interesting to watch Fuji's progress, though I tend to agree with you. One would think the X line has not matured enough for a superseding line to be introduced. But, I guess it will all depend upon Fuji's market research.

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Perrins

So, I have a £1000.00 to spend. Is it to be a X100T or a Leica M3. After three years the Fuji will be worth half. You will get your money back on the Leica. No contest.

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Serious Sam

I would by this RIGHT NOW......if it has a tilt screen or DOF scale.

I guess its too late to ask Fuji engineering to add...Oh well next time lar. Still very unique camera in the market.

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Antonio G

Both X100 and X100s offer a DOF scale when in Manual mode and using the EVF and I didn't read anything about changing it...so Fuji engineering seems to be well in schedule to attend your desires on DOF.

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jeremyclarke

A DoF scale on the lens is different from one in the viewfinder/LCD, since it lets you look down at the camera and choose a distance in the same motion as you are turning the wheel.

That said the one on the LCD works well and will be corrected for the TCL/WCL, so it's probably more useful overall.

Considering the popularity of this camera for street photography it's a bummer there's no tilt screen for waist shooting. It's not a gimmick, it's a good way to get stable shots at interesting angles with good framing and high stealth.

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Antonio G

You're right but that would require a solution like the one in the 23mm F:1.4 or the 14mm of X sys and for that a distance and two sides aperture scales would be necessary, extending the length of the lens and probably the need to have a recessing mechanism when in AF.
As the lens has a leaf shutter I wander if such a design would be compatible with it?
It would be interesting but we can also use the LCD to check the DOF scale without using the viewfinder.

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Serious Sam

With a DOF scale, you don't have to pick up your camera and you know where you are focusing but the digital scale on the LCD requireyou to have the EVF/LCD on and look up. Not a very usable solution.

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Antonio G

I agree it is not the best solution and I'd prefer the lens to be like my manual lenses for film cameras, but as a second best it can be usable either to set the hyper focal or for range focusing.
As long as you don't change the ring position the focus will remain the same and you don't need to look at it continuously. But all depends on your shooting style obviously.

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caravan

Well done Fuji ! again they are leading from the front,proving how worthless and unnecessary zooms are on compact cameras.

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jeremyclarke

Wow, are you being ironic? Fuji gives you a standard kit zoom with all their other X cameras and their X30 line has a nice long zoom built in.

Fuji is completing their lineup with a specialized small, high-IQ camera that sacrifices a zoom lens, not making some statement that zooms are useless.

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kreislauf

also, fuji kind of lives of their compact cameras that have (super)zoom. look at their S-lineup. many people buy that

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kadardr

A new market segment would be if Fujifilm put a 24Mp Sony sensor in it. Also the sensor could be tested by DxOMark, and could be used with ACR processing after raw shooting. I wonder how many would sell of which...

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HB1969

I'm pretty sure that fuji have sony sensors already...just a different colour filter ("x-trans") array.

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kadardr

That's the point. I meant the 24-mp sensor with Bayer array. Would solve the headache for many fence sitters.

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HB1969

That's a fair point but you can always borrow or rent one and evaluate image quality for yourself if that's an option for you. Alternatively, download a few of the many RAW sample images and process them yourself and see if you like the output. I personally don't put a lot of weight behind DXO scores. I doubt a few points here or there make that much of a difference in the real world. That's only my opinion and realise others might think differently.

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Antonio G

When it comes to DxO the main interest of a Bayer sensor would be to use their software as their camera modules don't support X-trans sensor.
This would be of interest for people that have another cameras and have to use a different workflow for Fuji X-trans files.
Another possibility would be to convince DxO about the future commitment with this technology and to drive them to support the X system cameras.

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jeremyclarke

DxOMark embarasses themselves by not supporting Fuji. The fact is they can only test a single style of sensor that happens to have had a monopoly for the last decade, but is in no way the only answer.

Apple, capture1 and Adobe all support Fuji's XTrans perfectly (ACR works fine kadarkr, in casey you really thought it didn't), so it's just DxO at this point who can't handle diversity in sensor design.

DxOMark is a fine site for comparing sharpness between sensors/lenses, but anyone who won't buy a camera because it isn't tested there is probably a measurebator. Fuji cameras make sharp images, it's not up for debate :S

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BarnET

Fuji made the X-trans colour array to be able to ditch the AA-filter on 16mp Apsc. Which lead to increased sharpness except with greens. where the filter may cause bleeding.

the Pentax k5II s also had it removed but you can find some nasty moiré samples here on the forums.

However the X-trans array takes more processing to read-out.
Which means read-out becomes slower. Which causes increased rolling shutter in video.

Fujifilm also cut some corners to make it work like line skipping. which all lead to very poor video performance.

A 24mp bayer sensor may be a better allrounder. Since it the underlying sensor is also newer and more advanced.

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quailoaksphoto

What does DXOmark have to do with a great camera or getting great photos? Nothing. I own D800, GH4, A7S, and X100S. The best photographs come out of my X100S. The X100S has best low light performance, best viewfinder, easiest to carry when traveling. It is inconspicuous and therefore gives better candid shots without distracting the subject at events or in the street.

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jeremyclarke

BarnET those are interesting points I hadn't heard before about XTrans hurting video.

However, it seems very possible that even if you're right and XTrans is the cause of the awful video from Fuji cameras, it could still be fixed by software. Fuji can probably solve the video issues with XTrans just like they did for stills, it just takes time and effort, and so far they haven't made it a priority.

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jeremyclarke

Anyway, the original question was about a 24mp sensor, which they could certainly add without switching from XTrans. They just haven't done so yet for what are probably various and good reasons.

Personally I don't want them to rush it. A new sensor would mean new issues and waiting for Adobe/Apple to catch up. I'd much rather Fuji focus on the real problems with their cameras, which are AF and flash, not IQ related.

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BarnET

Yes it can be solved.

But that would require more powerful processors.
And that means 4k is just out of the question.

I don't know whether it has a future.
The higher resolution Apsc sensors seems to have no need for a AA filter. And that means the X-trans is losing it's purpose a little.

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kadardr

Thanks for the answers. It was worth to ask the question.

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spontaneousservices

If it's really for "manual everything" photographers, where's the dedicated ISO wheel? Still the old film mindset, amazing, really. So many years after film disappeared from the camera body, changing ISO is still more involved than changing shutter speed or aperture.
But what would really make me buy such a camera (more than flip screen or ISO wheel) is a fixed 50mm equivalent lens. Sigh. Maybe one day...

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Five Piece

I'm sure ISO is not that hard to change, and I believe Fuji sell a 50mm equivalent add-on lens, so there you go...

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spontaneousservices

I didnt say it's hard: push button, look at screen, dial wheel, push button again. Not hard but a pain in the neck. I'd like a dedicated wheel for something I use many, many times a day.

The add-on lens partly blocks the view through the finder and anyway is a huge piece of look-at-me-having-a-cool-camera, totally negating the discreetness of the X100. But yes it's there.

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0MitchAG

Why not just buy one of the X-ILC's and a 50mm equiv. lens? Perhaps it would fit your needs better?

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spontaneousservices

well yes it would - but only for lack of a 50mm equivalent X100. Which I'd rather have. With a dedicated ISO wheel. And flip screen. And superior O/E-VF. It'll come, in a couple of years. People will notice how boring 35mm eq really is, it'll be the next big thing. One day. Maybe. (maybe not)

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Anton Marcu

personally, I prefer a fixed screen AND 35mm eq, I find the 50mm too restrictive on a fixed single-lens camera. As for setting the ISO, it's only ONE extra step compared to having a dedicated wheel, the extra step is to first press the ISO button, then you rotate just as you would on a ISO dial, you dont need to press another button to "confirm/set", it's set.

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kreislauf

i don't get it why 35mm FOV is boring...
when exactly in this discussion did we lose the importance of the photographer on the photo?

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spontaneousservices

o.k. Kreislauf - and others - here's a challenge: let's swap. I'll leave my present walk-around cam at 35mm eq, and you guys, if possible, at 50mm eq. For say a week. Try it, you'll like it. Or not. Or maybe I'll be convinced of the pros of 35mm!

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0MitchAG

90mm equivalent is where it's at.

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Photoman

A newer firmware to give faster AF on my X100s and I would be happy.

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Lightwind

Agree. And I would also like a firmware update to allow Auto-Exposure bracketing between +3EV and -3EV in 1
EV stops.

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Digimat

doesn´t even need to be faster, but fuji should totaly work on their algorythms...AF is just unusable in backlight situations, even on the x-t1.

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jeremyclarke

+1 it's not the speed it's the times when it's going to fail no matter what because of backlighting (X-E1 has the same issues). When you wait 3 seconds while it goes all the way back to front twice and still get a red box (and not even a close approximation of focus) it's pretty frustrating. I find when it is going to work it usually does so fairly fast (and I bet the PDAF in X-E2+ would make this even more true).

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Digimat

yupp. my x-t1 is able to focus faster than my 5d3 in certain situations (sometimes it just snaps on where the 5d3 takes its time under low lighting). but it totally fails to lock in other situations. as sad, backlight is one of them, but there are also some shapes that totaly confuse the autofocus system. that two sided behaviour is frustrating. and its just a shame because it seems all whats needed is a little software tweak...

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RStyga

Just calling this model a digital rangefinder is great since it will push -even a little- Leica to improve on specs and become more competitive in their pricing; nothing like a little monopoly disturbance!

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km25

Oh I'll keep going at it, OIS and a short zoom, a 24/28-7-/80 equl. zoom of F2.8 or maybe even better. Would be a great camera, not replace, but augment the X100, an X100Z.

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rjx

That's kinda what the X30 is for.

Personally I'd like the X40 to have an APSC sensor and skip the 1" sensor completely. But I feel most people would buy the X40 instead of the X100 unless Fuji made both cameras differently. EG- APSC + EVF for the X40 and Full Frame + hybrid viewfinder for the X100T replacement.

But if Fuji makes a high end compact with a zoom + APSC sensor, that might cut into their interchangeable lens cameras and lens sales ... a very small camera with 24-100mm covered and high quality APSC sensor might be all a lot of people need.

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spontaneousservices

Optical & fysical laws stand in the way of combining that with small size.

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0MitchAG

If you look at the LX-100 - nothing is impossible.

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Digimat

the lx-100 uses less than half of the sensor area aps-c has...so to do the same lens specs on an "x100z" would mean a rather hefty (or slow) lens.

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brownie314

Look at the LX100. Yeah, it uses less of the m4/3 sensor - but still should be excellent. And if you want it - the video features should be better on the LX100.

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jeremyclarke

An X40 with APSC and a fast aperture zoom would need more lens for sure, but a lot of people would be okay with that. As long as it was smaller than X-E1+18-55 and was faster I'd certainly consider it.

As it stands there's a big hole in the form of "X100x that zooms and has a sensor that could get some bokeh". I don't even care that much about IQ/noise from a small sensor, it's DoF control that is my dealbreaker (and that makes the X100t+TCL compelling 50mm f/2 gives good bokeh).

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peevee1

"Oh I'll keep going at it, OIS and a short zoom, a 24/28-7-/80 equl. zoom of F2.8 or maybe even better. "

It's called Panasonic LX100. :)
Or Leica D-Lux if you like the name better. :)

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peevee1

"the lx-100 uses less than half of the sensor area aps-c has."

It is not true. And all the difference there is, is compensated by f/1.7 lens.

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Mike FL

Fuji has any new products for Photokina so far. Hmmmm

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Under The Sun

My memory might have failed me but I recall in his preview of the x100t, Zack said that responsiveness wise moving from the S to the T is like the camera of the iPhone 3 to the iPhone 5. Jez I hope he's right, the glacial autofocus of my S is the main reason I sold it.

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Craig Atkinson

I think he said from the x100 to the x100T, not the s to the T.
I sold mine too - would take a lot to get me back on it

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rjx

Zack Aias quote:
"I’m going to say that if you are still shooting an original X100 then this is going to be a big upgrade for you. If you are currently shooting with the X100S then the biggest gain you will see is WiFi, speed, and button layout and HVF improvements. You will appreciate the bump in performance and you will like the new viewfinder a lot. I can’t tell you if that’s enough for you to upgrade or not. "

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Craig Atkinson

yes,so from x100 - t it's a big jump. From S to T , not so much - certainly not enough to get me back on board and actually I'm bored of retro!

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Quentin Feduchin

I liked the X100 very much; I love my X100s which I consider a lifetime camera where I am concerned, being 73.
Not that I expect to cark it any time soon, but having used many cameras in the past 60 years, I believe it almost succeeds as a watershed.
Yup, no doubt the T model gets better stuff in it, that's to be expected. There will always be something better, or something extra in the newer model. But I doubt that I'll upgrade for a long time, if only because as a pensioner I don't need to waste the money, but mainly because the S model is so damned good.
Also the attitude that this is a 'poor man's Leica' is a poor attitude. My brother owns an equivalent Leica M model and he hugely admires the FujiFilm unit.
Finally I am very gratified that FujiFilm periodically upgrade their firmware; rather as Microsoft has done with the XP OS, until it was finally just too darned old..

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wetracy

I'm a few years behind you, Quentin, but I agree completely. My X100S is the camera they'll be prying from my cold, dead hands! And we now have word Fuji will be upgrading the electronic shutter and the film simulation modes in the S. Good company.

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Lightwind

It's more of a lifetime camera for me too - although I am a little bit younger than you :) Still, the X100S does nearly everything I need it to, apart from autofocus hunting in low light, and the currently inadequate range of AE Bracketing. I really think Fuji could easily address this with a firmware update.

So I definitely will not be upgrading until there are a few more iterations - think I'll wait until the X100W.

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Mark Carr

Seems as though Fuji made some wonderful improvements, it's a shame so many people choose/prefer to focus on the few features it lacks.

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Mike FL

You made Fuji very happy. SOLD!

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Mike FL

Fuji may be able to find a convenient reason for X100T having no any IS.

At same time, Fuji highlights its Camera having IS as a selling point: "The built-in OIS (optical image stabilization) mechanism delivers an image stabilizing effect equivalent to 3.0-stop and is extremely effective in preventing blurring caused by camera shake or subject movement.". Oh, yes: "... or subject movement".

BTW. 3.0-stop is very much today's smart phone OIS standard. Oly and Pana can do much better.

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spontaneousservices

do you need IS on a 35mm equivalent lens? Sounds like some medical condition...

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Mike FL

spontaneousservices,

If you have a dead hand, you do not need IS regardless the focus lens.

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jeremyclarke

When the zoom range is long you need it more and it's more worth the extra weight and battery life depletion.

Not putting it in this camera is extremely reasonable, especially if they aren't promoting it for video (if you want to do video without a tripod you basically need IS no matter what the focal length is, which is why Canon is now putting IS in their wide primes).

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Robert Garcia NYC

what? no worlds fastest claim on this one..

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InTheMist

Yeah, because the last "world's fastest" was effing slow.

I hated my X100s.

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andreas2

I'm not sure a camera is worth hating but you go on hating non sentient things.

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JaimeA

Reading the specifications we found out that this camera has NO image stabilization. Totally nuts if you like closeups, interior and night shots.

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Mike FL

Never thought that. I checked that X100, X100s has NO mage stabilization as well.

Unbelievable! I think most of owner did NOT know that prior they bought this "poor man's Leica", and they may be very much still do not know.

No good, and not good at all.

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Charlieangel

I bought the X100S knowing full well it does not have not image stabilization. I haven't had any problems. Faster shutter speeds, if needed, and a steady hand work just as well.

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intruder61

I just checked...none of my film cameras have IS, if only, I've been ripped off.

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Tonio Loewald

I just realized that rich man's Leicas have no IS as well. OMFG.

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Mike FL

@Charlieangel,
I like " if needed, and a steady hand work just as well.". Can you show us how to shoot 3-4 stops lower than 1/35s shutter speeds by using" a steady hand"?

@ntruder61,
Show us a high-end (or half of the $1299) P&S DIGITAL camera which has no IS.

@Tonio Loewald.
Yes, Leica M Type body has no IBIS, what's your point of "Leicas have no IS as well?

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Mike FL

Added:

Fujifilm may not be experienced in Sensor based IS, but Fuji should able to give the thing a OIS.

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rjx

It's common knowledge the camera doesn't have image stabilization. None of the X100 cameras had IS. Typically image stabilization is not needed for wide angle lenses compared to a telephoto lens with a very narrow angle of view. The main reason people like IS on wide lenses is due to the emergence of DSLR's being used for film making. Other than that, IS has never been a needed feature of wide angle lenses for photography.

None of Fuji's primes have stabilization. Only the zooms. Why would Fuji put IS in the the X100 camera? If Fuji wanted to give the lens OIS, they could have. It's a very unnecessary feature that would only make the camera more expensive.

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PeakAction

And to think, all those photos I've made over the last twenty years would have been so much more acceptable if only I had IS!

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David Dolsen

I'm just trying to remember.... Hmmmm my Hasselblads and Leicas and Contax and Nikons F90, FM, FM2, none of them had image stabilization.

Just a photographer holding them.

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next shot

Wow all those great shots I have seen with old film cameras were not real, because they had no IS.

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Northgrove

I have the original X100 and this was honestly no big deal for me. The f/2 combined with good ISO performance up to and including ISO 6400 goes a really long way in my opinion.

According to the 1/shutter rule of thumb, you would be able to shoot fairly shake free @ 1/35 sec. That's pretty dark indeed at those ISO speeds. :p

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Sebit

One of the best things about x100s was that I was able to shoot 1/10 sec hand held, shake free. No mirror slap to worry about, ability to use soft release buttons...

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AlpCns2

So what's the point? It has a 150-year old proven device instead, called a "tripod socket". It is very possible to make excellent shots in low light due to the lack of any vibration.

And if need be, use a tripod. Jeez!

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Samaistuin

I think you should just shoot with a compact camera. They usually have IS.

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marc petzold

I've checked...from my Cameras only the old Lumix G1 with it's 14-45 Vario G Lens from 2008 does have IS onto the Lens here...all others not...and i don't miss IS anyway. Like Mike said, a steady hand, higher shutterspeed or sometimes a tripod does help well. ;)

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spontaneousservices

come on... 35mm equivalent and you need IS?

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marc petzold

@spontaneousservices

My post was a bit sarcastic from meaning - i don't need IS at all,
with primes and short zooms either way. ;)

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CFynn

@JaimeA

Lack of image stabilization is no big deal. Many expensive prime lenses for DSLRs, especially wide angle lenses, have no image stabilisation. This camera should be much easier to hold steady at low shutter speeds than a DSLR . No mirror slap and the leaf shutter will have less vibration than a DSLR's focal plane shutter.

Also there is a practical problem. The OIS elements in a lens would probably need to be where the leaf shutter is. There is also some loss of IQ in a lens with OIS.

But if you really think you need OIS, there are plenty of other cameras that have it.

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Tonio Loewald

Note: you can turn OIS off.

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Mike FL

@CFynn,

> You said " No mirror slap and the leaf shutter will have less vibration than a DSLR's focal plane shutter." <

Never head that MODERN DSLRs has this issue. BUT top of lines mirror-less camera had "Shutter shock" issue, try to search "Olympus shutter shock" for example.

> You said "There is also some loss of IQ in a lens with OIS. <

"you can turn OIS off" as Tonio Loewald said.

Also, High-end P&S can turn off OIS automatically if there is no movement being detected, the LX7 will turn off OIS automatically when tripod is used for example.

BTW: Tamron just release an ultra-wide angle 15-30mm F2.8 lens with OIS for FF.

Bottom line:
- It needs experience to make high performance OIS, and

- OIS Lens is much more expensive than whiteout.

- For sharpest results, you may need couple more stop than 1/FL.

- You need IS to shot video as you may hold the camera steady but you are moving the camera or even walking...

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W Keith McManus

Amazing all those years shooting with film Leicas and a 35mm lens and no IS. How did any of us manage?

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Mike FL

You may able to shot @1/10s with your FILM Leica w/35mm 50 years ago when you were young @film days.

50 years later, you may be have issue even @1/35s...

This may be just one of the reasons...

BTW:
Leica just release a "Leica M Edition 60" @$19K without screen. You may be interested because why we need screen as there is no screen at all in the film days.

Take a look.

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alexpaynter

How fast does this camera focus? I lose so many pictures to slow autofocus these days.

I had an old Canon full frame film camera with 35mm f2.8 lens and I always loved that but it could not take fast moving objects.

I love X100T because it is almost as compact as the old Canon. I can live with the poor battery life but if it cannot focus quickly I might consider the Samsung NX1. Bigger but not huge.

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rjx

If AF speed is very important to you then I think a DSLR is what you need. Or in good light, zone focus if you don't need a shallow DOF. If you need shallow DOF, plain old manual focusing can be faster and more accurate than autofocus in certain lighting conditions.

I'm not pointing the finger at you, just speaking in general. But these days a lot of people seem uneasy about manual focusing. With a little practice, most people could be very efficient with manual focusing. Just takes a little practice and then it becomes 2nd nature. Especially with all the focusing aids cameras have these days (split image, peaking, contrast, magnification, etc). I think if people spent the time they use complaining about AF speeds, to sharpen their manual focus skills, they'd be pleasantly surprised how easy MF can be. Too many people IMO use AF as a crutch.

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More On

I have an X100s and a Panasonic GM1 (M43). The X100s focusing is highly problematic, often catching objects in the background rather than the target. The GM1, in contrast, nails everything instantly, almost on par with my 5D MKII.

The X100s feels better in the hand, and pips it for image quality though, particularly at high ISO's. But if I were to recommend one, the Fuji would have to come with too many qualifications for most to consider.

If I were entering the market now, considering a fixed lens semi pro like this, I would also be auditioning the Panasonic Lx100. It seems much more versatile.

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bernardly

Konica Auto S3 Digital rangefinder camera!

http://petapixel.com/2014/09/12/18-year-old-retrofits-old-konica-rangefinder-sony-nex-aps-c-sensor-works/

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Mike FL

Beautiful camera.

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