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Ed Mitchell Interview

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Ed Mitchell Interview

Ed Mitchell Has Walked On The Moon. We Asked Him Why He Believes In UFOS.

Jim Clash
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Quick Bio

Sage advice can be gleaned indirectly from the words of men who've done amazing things. In this interview series by Jim Clash called "The Right Stuff," we share nuggets of wisdom from great men who've taken big risks in life -- boxersballooniststest pilotsastronautsmountain climbersocean diversscientistsOlympiansrace car drivers -- and come out the better for it. 

What exactly is the right stuff? Other than the name of a famous movie about the space race, it’s a state of mind. The term is a throwback to a time when character counted -- when men routinely risked their lives not to get rich, bloviate or self-aggrandize, but for their country, science, exploration and the joy of pure competition. 

Clash, a fellow and director at The Explorers Club, is a seasoned adventurer himself. In reporting for Forbes and other publications over the last two decades, he has skied to the South Pole; driven the Bugatti Veyron at its top speed of 253 mph; flown in a MiG-25 at Mach 2.6 to the edge of space; visited the North Pole twice; and climbed the Matterhorn, 23,000-foot Aconcagua and virgin peaks in Antarctica and Greenland. He has also purchased a ticket from Virgin Galactic Airways to fly into suborbital space. 

If a Ph.D. from M.I.T. who walked on the moon and was a fighter pilot during the Korean War told you that extraterrestrial UFOs have visited Earth -- and that the government knows about it and has covered it up -- would you dismiss the man as a loon or listen for more details?

Apollo 14’s Ed Mitchell, the sixth of only 12 men to step onto the lunar surface, is such a person. Of the seven moonwalkers I have interviewed, he is the only one who will go on record about his controversial belief in UFOs.

Mitchell, 83, earned a B.S. from the Carnegie Institute of Technology in 1952. While on active duty in the U.S. Navy, he also completed an M.S. in aeronautical engineering from the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School, then a Ph.D. in aeronautics and astronautics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In 1970, he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom from then-President Richard M. Nixon and in 1973 founded the Institute of Noetic Sciences. His engaging tome, The Way of the Explorer (New Page Books, 2008), probes Mitchell’s personal journey through mysticism and space.

I had a rare chance to chat with the retired U.S. Navy Captain who, in 1998, was inducted into the Astronaut Hall of Fame. He was measured and thoughtful. Following are edited excerpts from a longer conversation.

Jim Clash: Do you think we need to establish a base on the moon before going to Mars, as some Apollo moonwalkers like Charlie Duke believe, or are you more in the “direct to the moon” camp like Buzz Aldrin?

Ed Mitchell: I don’t think there is much value in trying to use the moon as a base to go to Mars. That’s going into one gravity belt and having to get back out of it again. And the moon doesn’t have a lot to offer as a resource base. There is something we could mine there, I’m sure, but there are better ways to do it. So I’m not in the camp of using the moon as a base to go to Mars. We do need different types of propulsion to get to Mars, though. I wrote one of the first Ph.D. theses on that back in the 1960s.

JC: Was there any emotion when you stepped on the moon on February 5, 1971, or was it just part of a long list of things Apollo 14 had to do on its mission?

EM: The latter is correct. Sure it was wonderful; we were pleased to do it and it was enjoyable to be among the first [on the moon], but it was just part of a checklist we had practiced week after week at Cape Kennedy. We would go through the whole routine, modify it, rewrite it, modify it again until we were comfortable with the order. And, of course, our mission was to be the first to do science on the moon, so we had to be very careful about getting everything in during the allotted time. Apollo 11 and 12 were just to prove physically we could get [the astronauts] down, and then back safely. Apollo 14 was to start doing science.

JC: Did you know that your late crewmate, Alan Shepard, America’s first man in space, was going to golf up there?

EM: Yes, I knew before it happened. But I didn’t know quite when he was going to fit it in. When we got through with everything else, that was the next step. After we had rolled up the solar wind experiment and put it in the data box, I did a javelin throw and he did a golf shot for the first "Lunar Olympics."

JC: Which went further, your javelin or his golf ball?

EM: They went between 50 and 55 feet each, and my javelin went four inches further than his golf ball. I’ve got the pictures to prove it! [laughs]

JC: You had a famous spiritual “moment” in the Command Module on your return trip to Earth. Can you explain it?

EM: All I had to do then was monitor the spacecraft systems, which were functioning perfectly. I could lie back in weightlessness and watch the slow progress of the heavens. Suddenly I felt tuned into something much larger than myself, larger than the planet in the window -- something incomprehensibly big. Even today, the perception baffles me. It wasn’t religious or otherworldly, nor was it new scientific understanding which I had suddenly become aware of. It was a pointer showing the direction toward greater understanding. I was part of a larger natural process than I’d previously understood, one that was all around me as we sped toward Earth through 240,000 miles of empty black space.

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