Commons:Deletion requests/2024/05/07
May 7
editMenotti
edit- File:Abrazo menotti y pele.jpg
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- File:Menotti abrazo olguin.jpg
- File:Menotti banco suplentes.jpg
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- File:Menotti fillol reunidos.jpg
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- File:Menotti y pele 1979.jpg
- File:Menotti y valencia.jpg
- File:Passarella maradona menotti.jpg
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- File:Lorenzo y Menotti - El Gráfico 3010.jpg
- File:Menotti y Fillol -Selección argentina- - El Gráfico 3027.jpg
Several images of César Luis Menotti were not free in Argentina on the URAA date and may not be hosted on Commons --Cambalachero (talk) 15:29, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Per Commons:Hirtle chart, El Gráfico files published until February 28, 1989 are allowed on Commons, as it is detailed on Category:El Gráfico, 1989 Fma12 (talk) 22:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- All issues of El Grafico had a page like this one (random 1981 issue). The copyright notice is the one at the bottom to the left. Cambalachero (talk) 17:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment But the copyright notice is not the point of this discussion. I would like user @IagoQnsi: (who wrote the statement I cited above) leave his feedback on this DR, based on his experience with those URAA issues. Fma12 (talk) 19:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Cambalachero: It's hard to make out in that image, but I don't see a copyright notice. The requirements for what makes a valid copyright notice became a lot more lenient after 1978, but it does still have to include the © symbol or some form of the word "copyright". IagoQnsi (talk) 23:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment But the copyright notice is not the point of this discussion. I would like user @IagoQnsi: (who wrote the statement I cited above) leave his feedback on this DR, based on his experience with those URAA issues. Fma12 (talk) 19:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- All issues of El Grafico had a page like this one (random 1981 issue). The copyright notice is the one at the bottom to the left. Cambalachero (talk) 17:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
File:Marie-Adélaïde Baubry-Vaillant - Portrait of Prince Vinh Thuy in 1926 - T199HK0473 SS-REF2 1.jpg
editIt's not possible that Marie-Adélaïde Baubry-Vaillant made this work, since she died in 1899 [1]. Le Petit Chat (talk) 16:09, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes that’s true! So the underlying reference is incorrect. One of two things must be true: the painter is not the creator of this pastel, or the sitter was not the person claimed to be photographed in 1926. If the first is true, the sitter statement must be clarified with the issue and the file doesn’t need to be deleted, because it’s still of value as a PD example of the artist’s work. If the second is true, then the work is by an unknown pastellist of the 1920s who may easily be in the public domain by now. Since Sotheby’s is the source, I am inclined to think the artist is indeed correct, but that’s just my opinion. Feel free to delete it if you feel strongly about it, because I don’t. Jane023 (talk) 02:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- So weird, I think it's most definitely a portrait of Prince Vinh Thuy. Then it should be the second case, by an unnamed painter from the 1920s. In my opinion it should not be deleted now.
源 義信 (talk) 07:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)- That's so interesting! Thanks for looking into it. It would be nice to have a photo of Prince Vinh Thuy or any other pastel by this artist for his circle. The more you think about this issue, the more questions arise about the way it was made. Having it around does help. I believe more eyes will help solve the question over time. It's possible that the artist had a student or other follower who imitated her style. Jane023 (talk) 10:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- So weird, I think it's most definitely a portrait of Prince Vinh Thuy. Then it should be the second case, by an unnamed painter from the 1920s. In my opinion it should not be deleted now.
Complex logos can be in Commons only with VRT-permission. It seems that the logo is not enough old. Taivo (talk) 17:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Likely below COM:TOO US. Common symbols are typically below the US threshold. This is a fairly simple cross in a shield. Compare examples there like fleur de lis, yin yang symbol, etc. IronGargoyle (talk) 12:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yin and yang symbol is even geometrical figure, it is much more simple. In my opinion fleur de lis is in public domain not because it is simple but because it is centuries old and in PD due to age. Taivo (talk) 20:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- A cross and a shield aren't centuries old too? That's a rhetorical question by the way. The Dominican Cross (the particular style of cross used here) has been used by the order for about 800 years. IronGargoyle (talk) 23:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please give a link to show that, and I withdraw the request. Taivo (talk) 09:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I might have overestimated with 800 years (that is how long the Dominicans have been around). The first clearly documented use is from the 1500s, but this article suggests that it probably predates this within the Spanish branch of the Dominicans. The cross flory and gyron were apparently important heraldry symbols in Spain at the time. It became a universal symbol of the Dominicans in the 1800s: https://www.dominicanajournal.org/wp-content/files/old-journal-archive/vol14/no1/dominicanav14n1coatarmstheorderpreachers.pdf IronGargoyle (talk) 20:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please give a link to show that, and I withdraw the request. Taivo (talk) 09:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- A cross and a shield aren't centuries old too? That's a rhetorical question by the way. The Dominican Cross (the particular style of cross used here) has been used by the order for about 800 years. IronGargoyle (talk) 23:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yin and yang symbol is even geometrical figure, it is much more simple. In my opinion fleur de lis is in public domain not because it is simple but because it is centuries old and in PD due to age. Taivo (talk) 20:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Context-less, source-less logo, probably (as stated in the description) own work. Therefore this is uneducational. Janhrach (talk) 17:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Info: as for the page on mlwiki that uses this file, it was added to it by the author of this file with the claim it is "official". Either this logo is official and therefore a copyright violation (which is doubtful, since the image contains the name of its author) or it is fictitious. In both cases, it should be deleted. Janhrach (talk) 08:08, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
This file is not only a ‘fake’ SVG which is not actually scalable, it does not even appear to depict the typeface it claims to, because Espy Sans is a bitmap pixel font but the graphic clearly shows a raster rendering of a vector font file Daphne Preston-Kendal (talk) 18:11, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- I created the file in CorelDraw and exported it (I thought) as an svg file. How can I self-test whether such a file is scalable and not raster? This is the first time I've created and uploaded a graphic. I will redo it as necessary. Elevedevie (talk) 23:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
68.37.120.43 23:10, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Artist died 1936, so this will have a US copyright until at least 1/1/2027 . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 19:13, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- The painting is part of the collection of a public Swedish museum and the assumption is therefore not valid. When using this file, photographer and museum (Norrköpings konstmuseum) will however need to be mantioned. 2001:1BA8:1600:FE00:C1AA:8B6A:7DAD:4E6B 23:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The painting was uploaded before 2012 so the URAA template is completely valid and is public domain in Sweden. DogeGamer2015MZT (talk) 02:58, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
وضعت صورة خاطئة Ilyasop (talk) 20:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Copyviol from https://arcivescovo.diocesiudine.it/stemma-dellarcivescovo-riccardo-lamba/ . Antonio1952 (talk) 20:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Recorte pescadería 200.39.139.21 21:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Y? Cv, G10. No escuchan a los IP? 200.39.139.21 14:49, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- No hay nadie en casa? 200.39.139.21 15:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
File:Foto Alejandro en el Bongó, con su Pápa bailando, cantando y Manolin Rincón en el Acordeon.jpg
edit1963, Achim ya era bibliotecario. Trabajo propio? 200.39.139.21 21:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)