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File:BillClintonBoulevard.jpg

Kosovar FoP does not cover temporary works like the billboard of Bill Clinton being shown on a building along the Bill Clinton Boulevard. See also w:en:Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 May 18#File:Bill Clinton Boulevard2.jpg. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 11:09, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JWilz12345: 2003? That's before 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence so I think {{FoP-Serbia}} (which includes 2D) applies? Multichill (talk) 21:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Multichill even so, Serbian FoP does not cover temporary works. The Bill Clinton billboard is meant to be changed for several instances, so I don't think it is permanent. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 22:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But no, it was uploaded on English Wikipedia on May 20, 2007, a month after the publication of Kosovo's very first copyright law on their Official Gazette. Assuming we inherit the action made at enwiki, it is still not applicable as the upload date was made during the time of the Kosovar law. The act of taking the photograph is irrelevant as the actual publication in relation to Wikimedia was first made in May 2007. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 22:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Shmuel Rosin.jpg

Unknown author couldn't die 70 years ago. No evidence of PD. 188.123.231.62 09:48, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep PD-Poland --RAN (talk) 13:34, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ), finally, have the decency to announce here that you have been silently changing the description of files after their nomination. Do you think it makes you look smarter than the topic starter? --188.123.231.43 15:41, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What or who is a "topic starter"? If you don't like people using the edit function, lobby to have it removed. You can't complain that we need to delete an image because of deficiencies in the uploader's information, then complain when the info is fixed. --RAN (talk) 17:14, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep PD-Poland--FLLL (talk) 17:08, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- User:FLLL, there is still no evidence that this particular photo was made by Polish photographer or published for the first time in Poland as well as it was first published before 1 March 1989 without copyright notice as per PD-Poland requirements. --188.123.231.43 15:41, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We use the best information available at the time, including a reverse image search to see if anyone was named as the photographer. We also use Occam's Razor and math, since we know the years of birth and death and where the person lived. If they lived anywhere in the EU, the status would still be the same. You can use absurdist speculation on any image, even where we know the photographer: What if the photographer's spouse pressed the shutter release button while the attributed photographer was in the bathroom? What if the attributed photographer was sick that day and their assistant pressed the shutter release? What if the camera was on an automated timer, and no one pressed the shutter release? What if a wild monkey wandered into the photo studio and pressed the shutter release button? --RAN (talk) 17:18, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

- It seems obvious to me that some people think they are political commissars and are more royal than the king. It is always easier to be negative (to suppress) than positive (to create);--FLLL (talk) 10:04, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - User:FLLL, you steal other people’s artworks, upload them under fake rationales and consider yourself the Creator? Get back to the position you deserve. --188.123.231.32 18:58, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. If there was some evidence tying it to Poland, I would be confident to say this was {{PD-Poland}}. The subject was born near Poland, but seems to have spent most of his life (including the period where this photo was supposedly taken) on the Soviet side of the border. IronGargoyle (talk) 01:47, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Russia is 70 years. --RAN (talk) 18:57, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Stop edit warring and random/false licensing. Firstly, not 70, but 70+4. And secondly, this starts from the date of the proven publication, and not from the date of creation fabricated by you. --188.123.231.32 19:07, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment For now, I've protected the file against further edit-warring. It can be unprotected when this DR gets closed. --Túrelio (talk) 19:33, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Túrelio, can you explain your edit, that reverted file description to obviously false PD rationale? Please feel free to check the article and make sure that this person never had anything to do with Poland. Why Poland, and not Brazil or New Zealand? Or you want to demonstrate that an unregistered user is always wrong, even if they canceled a deliberately false rationale? --188.123.231.32 14:27, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Túrelio, since you continue to remain silent, should it be assumed that you cannot give any reasoned answer? --188.123.231.32 06:06, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete The image is probably old enough to be in the public domain either in Poland or in Russia, but we simply don't have the information on authorship and publication history needed to determine this. We don't know whether it's from Poland, so we don't have a base to just apply that PD-Poland template. We don't even know whether the photographer is positively unknown/anonymous or just not mentioned at the immediate image source. Gestumblindi (talk) 20:28, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No one has said how they know the photo is from Poland and the only argument for it seems to be it works out best to claim it is from Poland. FLLL's smart-alec remark is not evidence of where the photograph was taken. That doesn't even get into how we know it was from the 1930s. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:48, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. No evidence that this was a Polish photograph. Is likely a Russian photograph, and we don't have enough information to determine when it was published or if the photographer was known. Photographer could have worked during WW2 and lived past 1948. Abzeronow (talk) 18:20, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: no valid reason for deletion. --Yann (talk) 15:07, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:Shmuel Rosin.jpg

The decision to keep the file was wrong. We have even no source. We have no evidence, that depicted person is Shmuel Rosin. We have no evidence, that the photo was ever published before upload into Commons. We have no evidence, that the author is anonymous – the fact that I and you do not know the author does not make it anonymous. Taivo (talk) 18:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the only thing I would like to add is the deliberately false addition of a PD-Poland tag made during the previous discussion, despite the fact that the person depicted has nothing common to Poland and lived his entire life in Russia / USSR. --188.123.231.32 19:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. While I think the image creator is likely anonymous, there was nothing linking this image conclusively to Poland in the last deletion request and there is nothing linking this image to the greater EU now. IronGargoyle (talk) 02:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files in Category:Kunsthaus Zürich (Heimplatz 5)

There is no FoP for interior views in Switzerland. The building was designed by David Chipperfield, who is still alive. The building was described in a monograph and also architectural reviews such as here or here or here

Paradise Chronicle (talk) 20:32, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Just some simple concrete walls, stone tile floors, and a bit of utilitarian furniture. These are de minimis portions of a larger architectural work. Nothing in the images rise about the threshold of originality. IronGargoyle (talk) 02:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]