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Es gibt Dinge, über die ich nicht mehr diskutieren möchte:
Zu meiner Vorgehensweise: Best practice (deutsch). Und es sei erwähnt, dass ich gleichartige und eher langweilige Änderungen mit einem Bot erledige. So manche in den Augen des Betrachters sinnlose Änderung einfacher Natur wird automatisch irgendwann wieder rückgängig gemacht, sinnvoll erscheinende oder immer wieder durch Dritte aus meiner Sicht eher unwichtige Änderungen werden von mir im Bot aufgenommen, so dass alle meine Bilder davon profitieren. |
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Please note that the default sort order of the letters æ, ø and å, commonly found in Scandinavian texts, actually is the correct sort order; after zː Dänische Sprache#Das dänische Alphabet. You should not change i.e. Råå -> Raa or Sjælland -> Sjalland. Hjart (talk) 14:40, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the information. I didn't knew that. --XRay 💬 15:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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Hallo XRay, sag mal, haben wir für die Fotos in dieser Kategorie eigentlich eine Freigabe des Architekten? Wenn das nicht der Fall ist, dann hätten wir hier wohl ein urheberrechtliches Problem... Viele Grüße, Gnom (talk) 06:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ich kann hier nur für meine Bilder sprechen und da auch nicht für jedes Bild, aber nicht jedes Bild benötigt auch eine Genehmigung. Ich habe für diverse Besuche Genehmigungen bei den Architekten des Umbaus und bei dem Künstler des Wal-Projekts eingeholt und auch hinterlegt. Dann gab es einen Instawalk, bei dem ich implizit von einer Genehmigung ausgehe. --XRay 💬 09:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, also liegt uns zum Beispiel bei File:Dülmen, Heilig-Kreuz-Kirche, The Cast Whale Project -- 2022 -- 0435-7.jpg die Genehmigung des Architekten vor, der den Altarraum mit dem Kreuz gestaltet hat? Wir müssten ihn dann idealerweise auch noch namentlich nennen, weil wir ja sein Werk abbilden. Gnom (talk) 11:21, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- In dem Fall liegt die Genehmigung des Künstlers vor, aber nicht der Architekten. Da ich davon ausgehe, dass es erforderlich sein könnte, suche ich mal alle Bilder heraus, die architektonische Elemente enthalten, und frage dann noch einmal bei dem Architekturbüro nach. Ich werde das Ergebnis dieser Anfrage dann an unseren Permission-Account (OTRS) schicken und die Id bei den Bildern ergänzen. Die eventuell erforderlichen Textergänzungen bei den Bildern kann ich ebenso kurzfristig ergänzen. --XRay 💬 12:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nur zur Sicherheit: Ich wollte hier kein riesen Fass aufmachen. Wir müssen diesbezüglich nur vorsichtig sein. Gnom (talk) 14:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Gnom: Mach dir keine Gedanken, ich bin für jeden Hinweis dankbar. Bilder, die nicht unter die Panoramafreiheit fallen, mache ich grundsätzlich nur mit entsprechender Genehmigung. Allerdings gibt es auch da diverse Facetten. Lass mich das kurz mal erläutern: Für das Hausrecht muss ich das Objekt erst einmal betreten. Nach eine Fotogenehmigung frage ich dann auch direkt, völlig unabhängig vom Urheberrecht. Wenn ich mit freien Lizenzen komme, muss ich viel erklären. Da reicht die simple Mail vom OTRS-Team nicht. Dann ist die Frage, was denn eigentlich geschützt ist. Auf dem Foto oben zum Beispiel ist hauptsächlich der Wal zu sehen. Von dem Künstler als Urheber habe ich eine Genehmigung bekommen. Dann ist da das Umfeld und das Kreuz, ein simples Kreuz. Benötigt man dafür auch eine Genehmigung? Es ist nicht das Hauptmotiv, gilt aber wahrscheinlich als Teil der Bildgestaltung - oder auch nicht. Dann wäre die Frage, wer die Genehmigung erteilt. Die Kirche, die der ursprüngliche Architekt geplant hat, gibt es nicht mehr. Schon beim Wiederaufbau nach dem Zweiten Weltkrieg wurde sie in abgeänderter Form wiederaufgebaut. Der Architekt dazu ist mir nicht bekannt. 2004/5 gab es gerade im Innenbereich einen deutlichen Umbau, das Kreuz gehört dazu. Die Architekten dieses Umbaus habe ich bezogen auf die Architekturaufnahmen im Innenraum gefragt und auch eine Genehmigung bekommen. Aber nicht zusätzlich zum Kunstobjekt, sondern nur bei den reinen Innenraumaufnahmen. Das wunderschöne Uhrwerk im Turm hat keinen Architekten, die Firma gibt es nicht mehr, muss man überhaupt fragen? Es ist ein funktionales Objekt ohne Designansprüche. Oder den Dachboden, der nur funktional ist. Muss man da auch wegen eines Urhebers fragen? Von der zuständigen Gemeinde habe ich auf jeden Fall die Genehmigung bekommen. Ich könnte jetzt quasi für alle Aufnahmen in Innenräumen, die ich je gemacht habe, quasi endlos Fälle aufführen und Fragen stellen. Und dann kommt dazu noch unser OTRS-Team, welches eine wertvolle Arbeit leistet, aber leider immer unterschiedlich reagiert. Die eher plumpe Anfrage per Mail reicht nicht immer und ist auch wenig diplomatisch. Oft weiß ich nicht, wie ich es dem Team recht machen kann. Das macht das Leben nicht einfacher und manchmal hat man einfach keine Lust mehr auf das ganze Prozedere. Sorry für die lange Erläuterung. Ich mache eine Liste mit Bildern und schreibe das Architekturbüro an und erkläre den Umstand. Die Genehmigung, die dann hoffentlich kommt, ergänze ich. Vorsorglich habe ich schon mal bei der Heilig-Kreuz-Kirche den Eintrag bei Wikidata um den Fakt des Umbaus im Innenraum mit Nennung des Architekturbüros ergänzt. --XRay 💬 17:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nur zur Sicherheit: Ich wollte hier kein riesen Fass aufmachen. Wir müssen diesbezüglich nur vorsichtig sein. Gnom (talk) 14:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- In dem Fall liegt die Genehmigung des Künstlers vor, aber nicht der Architekten. Da ich davon ausgehe, dass es erforderlich sein könnte, suche ich mal alle Bilder heraus, die architektonische Elemente enthalten, und frage dann noch einmal bei dem Architekturbüro nach. Ich werde das Ergebnis dieser Anfrage dann an unseren Permission-Account (OTRS) schicken und die Id bei den Bildern ergänzen. Die eventuell erforderlichen Textergänzungen bei den Bildern kann ich ebenso kurzfristig ergänzen. --XRay 💬 12:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, also liegt uns zum Beispiel bei File:Dülmen, Heilig-Kreuz-Kirche, The Cast Whale Project -- 2022 -- 0435-7.jpg die Genehmigung des Architekten vor, der den Altarraum mit dem Kreuz gestaltet hat? Wir müssten ihn dann idealerweise auch noch namentlich nennen, weil wir ja sein Werk abbilden. Gnom (talk) 11:21, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2024-26
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Editors will notice that there have been some changes to the background color of text in the diff view, and the color of the byte-change numbers, last week. These changes are intended to make text more readable in both light mode and dark mode, and are part of a larger effort to increase accessibility. You can share your comments or questions on the project talkpage. [11]
- The text colors that are used for visited-links, hovered-links, and active-links, were also slightly changed last week to improve their accessibility in both light mode and dark mode. [12]
Problems
- You can copy permanent links to talk page comments by clicking on a comment's timestamp. This feature did not always work when the topic title was very long and the link was used as a wikitext link. This has been fixed. Thanks to Lofhi for submitting the bug. [13]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 June. It will be on all wikis from 27 June (calendar). [14][15]
- Starting 26 June, all talk pages messages' timestamps will become a link at English Wikipedia, making this feature available for you to use at all wikis. This link is a permanent link to the comment. It allows users to find the comment they were linked to, even if this comment has since been moved elsewhere. You can read more about this feature on Diff or on Mediawiki.org. [16]
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