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:::::::I would be happy with this too, but I think it would be somewhat clearer and more specific to say {{tq|The scientific consensus is that genetics do not explain average differences in IQ test performance between racial groups.}} Groups don't have IQs after all. [[User:Generalrelative|Generalrelative]] ([[User talk:Generalrelative|talk]]) 19:29, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
::::::::FFFabulous! [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 19:57, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::I think the recent change to the lead is an improvement. Since we seem to have some agreement about this now, I'll update the body of the article to match the lead.
:::::::::The "no evidence" statement also exists in the articles [[Intelligence quotient]], [[Race and intelligence]], and [[Racial achievement gap in the United States]]. Can it be updated to the new wording in those articles as well? -[[User:Ferahgo the Assassin|Ferahgo the Assassin]] ([[User talk:Ferahgo the Assassin|talk]]) 21:10, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
:::I'm with FFF on this. The wholesale removal of the content was obviously inappropriate and would never have survived scrutiny from the wider community. The fallacious move from "IQ is largely heritable at the level of the individual" to "between-group differences in average IQ test performance must therefore be at least partially genetic" is so widespread, and so frequently countered whenever the topic is discussed by actual geneticists, that some sort of discussion of this fallacy clearly belongs in the article. [[User:Generalrelative|Generalrelative]] ([[User talk:Generalrelative|talk]]) 03:39, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
*We had a [[Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard/Archive_70#RfC_on_race_and_intelligence|huge RFC]] on this. While consensus can change, you would have to hold another RFC at a comparable venue to demonstrate that it has; claiming (inaccurately) to have a majority by looking only at people who supported you and only in a smaller venue is inappropriate per [[WP:CONLOCAL]]. --[[User:Aquillion|Aquillion]] ([[User talk:Aquillion|talk]]) 20:08, 2 August 2022 (UTC)