Talk:Fort Lauderdale, Florida

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Requested move 26 July 2019

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The result of the move request was: Not moved, consensus is clearly against this RM and nom was withdrawn even though I think this is arguably a good idea. (non-admin closure) Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:11, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

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Fort Lauderdale, Florida → Fort Lauderdale – There isn't another place named Fort Lauderdale anywhere in the world that would be confused with this Fort Lauderdale. Per WP:Concise, we should keep titles as concise as possible. Other major cities don't have the state, country, or province attached to the page name: Miami, Seattle, Houston, Dallas, Chicago, Toronto, Atlanta, Vancouver, New York City, London, Los Angeles, etc. TrailBlzr (talk) 16:31, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

• Although I think it would be a good idea since it does fall foul of WP:CONCISE, its not one of the big 30 on the AP Stylebook per WP:USPLACE which advocates that its common usage in the US. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:33, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per above comment. For example, notice Sacramento, California. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 17:59, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Invalid comparison. There are numerous other places named Sacramento. There are no other places anywhere in the world named Fort Lauderdale. This is the only Fort Lauderdale, hence why there isn't a page called Fort Lauderdale (disambiguation). - TrailBlzr (talk) 18:26, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
• Strongly Oppose Somebody already "incorrectly" moved it in 2016 and then it was immediately reversed as per WP:NCPlace. As User:Crouch, Swale said, it's not in the AP 30. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fort_Lauderdale&action=history HiMyNameIsFrancesca (talk) 22:12, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per the WP:USPLACE guidelines for US cities. Fort Lauderdale does not fall under the AP Stylebook exception like Miami, Seattle, and Houston do. Please see Wikipedia:Perennial proposals#Remove state from US placenames for the rationale of WP:USPLACE. The consensus in the numerous archived discussions regarding WP:USPLACE (listed near the top of WT:NCGN) is that a consistent convention, commonly-used by most reliable American sources, overrides conciseness on these article names. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:23, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose At first, I thought this was a good idea, but after reading the links provided by Zzyzx11, I can see that there's a long established style guide on not doing this. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:22, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:USPLACE. Rreagan007 (talk) 14:06, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
• Proposal withdrawn I am withdrawing this proposal. I did not realize there was a universally established [city, state] article naming policy on American cities. TrailBlzr (talk) 02:57, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

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GA Reassessment

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I am fulfilling a request to reassess the article. The most obvious issues are the update tag on the article, indicating that it does not fully cover the topic, and the content in the article which lacks a citation. I am also skeptical that all the sources cited meet WP:RS (can provide more details if necessary). (t · c) buidhe 23:37, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

• I'm skeptical on some of these sources, too. For instance, "Falling Rain Genomics" looks a bit on the iffy side. Significant uncited text, multiple sections tagged for update. The healthcare section is very out of date, and parts of the demographics section date to 2000. There's some prose issues, such as "As of the 2019 census, the city has an estimated population of 182,437", which ignores the fact that there was no 2019 census. I'm also concerned a little bit about the degree of affiliated sourcing: there's big chunks cited to either the city itself, the county, the Florida municipal league, the county historical commission, or the city tourism commission. This is an important enough city that secondary sourcing is available. Too much work for me to deal with at the moment. Hog Farm _Bacon 06:45, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

• I have a conflict of interest since I used to live in Fort Lauderdale ~8 years ago, but I agree with the decision to reassess it. Mostly the reasons stated above and the update tag. As the user above me mentioned, this definitely is an important city and further research can be done, but at its current condition, it should be subject to reassessment. FredModulars (talk) 03:01, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

• Delist - It's been almost two months and none of this has been addressed. Hog Farm _Bacon 03:18, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Fort Lauderdale Fire-Rescue Department into Fort Lauderdale, Florida

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No consensus to merge, with discussion stale; reasons for a merge focus on 'alternative to deletion' given a lack of notability; reasons against focus on balance at the target following any merge and notability of this particular fire department. Klbrain (talk) 16:40, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

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Does not seem notable outside of the city, but merging would be better than AfD. DrowssapSMM 15:05, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose merge — the Fort Lauderdale Fire-Rescue Department article is too long and detailed to merge into this article. I guess (but do correct if I'm mistaken) that the proposal is actually advocating a partial merge and loss of maybe 80% or 90% of the Fire Rescue article; in effect making such a "merge" little more than a redirect. I stand by my edit summary on reverting the redirect: AfD is a better option because new sources may be put up for consideration — it allows one to consider and comment on all options in the hope that a consensus will emerge on whether to keep/delete/merge/redirect the article. Rupples (talk) 00:12, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose merge. I would argue that there is inherent notability for large city police fire and medical, and I concur with Rupples on the length of the article. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 18:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Partial merge — A full merge is too big for the Fort Lauderdale article but I'm in full support for a partial merge, only the main parts of the article. The article itself has a notability guideline warning so I don't think it should have its own article as bigger cities than Fort Lauderdale, Florida don't have Fire-Rescue Department articles examples: Richmond, Salt Lake City, St. Petersburg Florida, Tallahassee FloridaMan21 (talk) 23:43, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

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