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Sept 25: WikiWednesday Salon NYC

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Hello I did add a reference/source to my edit.https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3109809/chinas-aircraft-carrier-killer-missiles-successfully-hit-target 158.223.166.78 (talk) 16:23, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

You added an incorrectly formatted external link to a section that does not take external links, with no indication as to what claim it is supposed to be supporting. That's not adding a reference, that's linkspam. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 16:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

annual warrior competition

The sky sword unit is a Chinese special forces unit belonging to the PLAAF Airborne Brigade 158.223.166.78 (talk) 16:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

You need to provide a properly formatted reference for that claim. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 16:53, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

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People will object

With regard to "people will object just to the re-organizing despite what WP:PGCHANGE and WP:PGBOLD say," I'd change "people" to "one person in particular." Can you say Wikipedia:Status quo stonewalling? - Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 16:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I think the number of people who would do this is quite a few, unfortunately. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 18:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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CW Rebranding

On Logopedia, many CW affiliates rebranded, also, those logos are real and have been does by the affiliates owners or Nexstar. BMarGlines (talk) 23:41, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

@BMarGlines: Logopedia is a wiki which anyone can edit, and it is not a reliable source. As far as I can tell, every single one of those logos was a hand-made replacement from Junebug, not an original. There's simply no evidence to suggest that these are in any way official logos, and there's no evidence to suggest that the actual logos which are still in use on those affiliates websites (which are NOT the ones you've been adding) have changed either. To be honest, it looks quite a bit like a weirdly disruptive attempt to get around our non-free image usage criteria by using near-knockoffs released under free licenses instead of the actual logos (which remain under the claimed copyright of their owners). In any event, as I said, you'll need to provide a reliable source for your changes.⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 01:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

The KOMU-DT3 YouTube video AIRED on the ACTUAL station! BMarGlines (talk) 12:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Maybe it did, maybe it didn't, but it's not an acceptable reliable source, and the actual KOMU-TV website is *not* using that logo. Do not make further unsourced logo changes to logos not actually in use. Per policy, you *must* provide a citation to a reliable source and gain consensus before reinserting this material. If you continue, you may be blocked from further editing for disruption. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 14:36, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Same with WWTI-DT2 BMarGlines (talk) 15:38, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

And once again, there is the same problem -- you have not provided a reliable source that shows the logo has changed, and as far as I can tell thus far, literally every single one of those logo changes has been invalid: not just due to being unsourced but in several cases I was able to verify that you were changing the logo *away* from the actual one in use, to one that has no evidence of being in use and appears to be fan-created. You seem to be under the mistaken perception that following Wikipedia policy is optional -- it is not. You are *required* by policy to provide a reliable source for contested material, and you are required to seek and gain consensus before reinserting controversial content. See, e.g. WP:V, WP:RS, WP:BURDEN etc. "Some guy on youtube says this is official" is NOT a reliable source -- and in general the community has determined that Youtube videos are not reliable sources either (see WP:RSPYT). "I got it off Logopedia" is also not a reliable source (as that is a wiki that anyone can edit). And you're presumably already aware that Junebug was taking these fan-made images off of Logopedia, converting their format, and uploading them inappropriately to Commons under incorrect licenses, to then try and replace the *actual* logos on Wikipedia with her fanmade fakes -- a type of vandalism that you're also participating. You've been made aware of what our policies require several times, you've been repeatedly warned, and this is not a subject up for debate -- if you continue to make disruptive edits to television station logos, you're going to be blocked from editing. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 17:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

I have filed a report over on Commons (c:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#User:BMarGlines) and nominated the logos for deletion. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:27, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. BTW I suspect this one may have also been in error, as I do not see that logo in use anywhere on the KFDM website, and suspect it's like the others (the file page similarly notes it was inappropriately sourced from Logopedia, which makes it unverifiable as being official in any way).⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 17:37, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

KOMU-DT3's logo on the main KOMU website came from TitanTV BMarGlines (talk) 20:04, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

The logo itself is real, if you want a more reliable source than my YouTube channel, check YouTube TV or Hulu + Live TV's channels by zip codes, that also proves other CW affiliate logos (talk) 11:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

YouTube channels aren't reliable sources, nor would a single usage on a list indicate a rebranding that would justify changing the logo on the article. And I'm not the one seeking to add the material. There's clearly some weird off-wiki coordination issues going on here, but regardless of whatever is going on with that, y'all are required to follow our policies and guidelines on verifiability and reliable sources. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 23:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

It needs to be explained that some stations aired station identifications with the new CW Logo. I'm not saying you're wrong. mer764KCTV5 / Cospaw (He/Him | Talk • Contributions) 17:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

That may be the case. And the way we can confirm that is by providing a reliable source to verify that a new CW logo exists. We cannot simply rely on someone's mere assertion that a change happened, and we cannot accept fan-made copies found on wikis as substitutes purporting to be the real thing. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 17:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I do agree with you. I do have an question, some of the CW Plus logos have been updated, (the ones that aren't owned by say, Sinclair or Nexstar, A.K.A. the ones that the website is the one that The CW can provide to its affiliates) .... I think I forgot the question I was going to say. Oops. mer764KCTV5 / Cospaw (He/Him | Talk • Contributions) 18:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 looks at the Tokyo war crimes trials

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CS1 error on Israel Defense Forces

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Reliable?

https://issuu.com/burmamilitarysecrets/docs/_207c2042c2f9a0/1|

https://www.rbnr.it/my/prodotto/itagl-00128/

These sources contain a lot of info about organisional structure of RIfle Platoon and RIfle Company. Do you think they're reliable enough to be writen on wiki?

As for interview of the POW, the Colour Sergenat (sometimes called Master Sergeant) in Myanmar tells that a Rifle Company, in practice, only have 50 men in total. You can check it in here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_1fRaUZl3w he said that around 7:06 The Burmese Editor (talk) 23:27, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@The Burmese Editor: The issuu.com one is not reliable enough. As best I can tell, it's just a pdf sharing website, there's no editorial control and per WP:UGC: Content from websites whose content is largely user-generated is generally unacceptable. Sites with user-generated content include personal websites, personal and group blogs (excluding newspaper and magazine blogs), content farms, Internet forums, social media sites, fansites, video and image hosting services, most wikis and other collaboratively created websites. In general that also applies to Youtube -- there is a consensus that it is generally unreliable and should not be allowed as a source WP:RSPYT. I could not get the other site to load, so I don't know what's on it. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 00:21, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Ohh, got it. I guess those documents are not consdered reliable enough. What of the POW interview? Is that considered reliable enough? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_1fRaUZl3w The Burmese Editor (talk) 00:37, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

@The Burmese Editor: unfortunately no. The community has determined by consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#YouTube that YouTube is a generally unreliable source, and with limited exceptions we can't use it. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 01:23, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

June 26: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

June 26: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

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