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===[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Coren|Coren]]=== |
===[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Coren|Coren]]=== |
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'''[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Coren|action=edit}} Voice your opinion]''' |
'''[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Coren|action=edit}} Voice your opinion]''' |
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'''(2/7/0); Ended 07:12 [[27 April]] [[2007]] (UTC)''' |
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{{User|Coren}} - Despite my relatively low edit count, I think I can hold the mop with success. In fact, over the past several years, my irregular interaction with article space have allowed me to find a better niche than article editor ''per se''. |
{{User|Coren}} - <s>Despite my relatively low edit count, I think I can hold the mop with success. In fact, over the past several years, my irregular interaction with article space have allowed me to find a better niche than article editor ''per se''. |
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I found my best contribution to the 'pedia to date is new page patrol (how's '''that''' for boring, repetitive tasks?). I have a fairly good crap detector, and I think my hit/miss ratio speaks for itself. I'm not perfect, but I acknowledge and correct mistakes when I make them. |
I found my best contribution to the 'pedia to date is new page patrol (how's '''that''' for boring, repetitive tasks?). I have a fairly good crap detector, and I think my hit/miss ratio speaks for itself. I'm not perfect, but I acknowledge and correct mistakes when I make them. |
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The reason I'm asking for adminship is simply so I can contribute to Wikipedia in the way I am most able to: quality control. [[User:Coren|Coren]] 02:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
The reason I'm asking for adminship is simply so I can contribute to Wikipedia in the way I am most able to: quality control. [[User:Coren|Coren]] 02:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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Oh, and technically, my edit count ''should'' be higher, but it seems edits to page that are deleted don't count. I guess CSD success isn't good for the blind stats. :-) [[User:Coren|Coren]] 03:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
Oh, and technically, my edit count ''should'' be higher, but it seems edits to page that are deleted don't count. I guess CSD success isn't good for the blind stats. :-)</s> [[User:Coren|Coren]] 03:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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I suppose it would be wiser to withdraw my request at this time. I felt that my solidity would overshadow my low editcount, but it's quickly evident I should wait a few months before trying again. I've obviously got [[WP:SNOW|not much probability]] of reaching concensus. |
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Two things for the record, however: |
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*The incident with [[User:Ruanua|Ruanua]] is indeed a good indication of my reaction to ill-founded criticism, but I feel it has been interpreted incorrectly. As attempts to courteously explain to the editor that her(?) article was not appropriate for notability reason and suggesting other ways of contributing quickly descended into name-calling and paranoia, I prefered to immediately stop escalating and forestall that class of unproductive discussion. |
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:I fail to understand why that would be held against me rather than in my favor. A quick read of the [[User talk:Ruanua|relevant talk page]] in addition to mine would have shown that. I suppose my message might be seen as overly strongly worded (and I will, indeed, soften it posthaste), but I ''did'' assume good faith from her, and I ''did'' repeatedly attempt to civilly redirect her efforts in productive ways. |
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:I ''would'' appreciate it if, in addition to offering the harsh critique, I was explained how to handle that particular event without escalating the dispute or hurting feelings. I felt it best to simply sweep that matter aside and forestall further dispute since there was nothing that could possibly gained by continuing. (My talk space is probably a better place for this, however). |
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*The criticism about too few article edits are well taken. I will endeavor to work a bit harder in main space, and thereby gain experience in appears most people here feel I need even though I expect to never be a very good or very prolific article editor. I suppose I have to agree that this experience would be valuable even though this will never be my forte. [[User:24.200.97.225|24.200.97.225]] 06:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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(That previous comment was left by me-- I'm not certain why I was no longer logged in). [[User:Coren|Coren]] 06:40, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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====Questions for the candidate==== |
====Questions for the candidate==== |
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'''Oppose''' |
'''Oppose''' |
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#'''Oppose''', sorry. Your enthusiasm is most welcome but more experience is needed in all areas, especially admin-oriented ones. Keep up the good work and try again in a few months.--<strong>< |
#'''Oppose''', sorry. Your enthusiasm is most welcome but more experience is needed in all areas, especially admin-oriented ones. Keep up the good work and try again in a few months.--<strong>[[User:Husond|<span style="color:#082567;">Hús</span>]][[User:Husond/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">ö</span>]][[User talk:Husond|<span style="color:#082567;">nd</span>]]</strong> 03:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Oppose''' You seem solid, and I know your heart is true. However, the fact that you would nominate yourself for a bid that, if I know anything about Wikipedia, is destined to fail, shows your lack of familiarity with process. Furthermore, the mainspace is the most important thing, no matter what. You need to show your commitment there. --[[User:Tractorkingsfan|< |
#'''Oppose''' You seem solid, and I know your heart is true. However, the fact that you would nominate yourself for a bid that, if I know anything about Wikipedia, is destined to fail, shows your lack of familiarity with process. Furthermore, the mainspace is the most important thing, no matter what. You need to show your commitment there. --[[User:Tractorkingsfan|<span style="color:Black;">Tractor</span>]][[User talk:Tractorkingsfan|<span style="color:Green;">kings</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tractorkingsfan|<span style="color:Red;">fan</span>]] 04:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Strong oppose''' [[User:Ruanua]] pestered you with questions as to why you tagged his article for A7 deletion [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACoren&diff=123795728&oldid=123752888]. You responded by blanking the comments and writing the following rejoinder, which you copied to your userpage: |
#'''Strong oppose''' [[User:Ruanua]] pestered you with questions as to why you tagged his article for A7 deletion [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACoren&diff=123795728&oldid=123752888]. You responded by blanking the comments and writing the following rejoinder, which you copied to your userpage: |
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::((snipped long rant about my being a "climate change denier" because I requested speedy on an article on a non-notable fringe ecological group in new zealand)) |
#::((snipped long rant about my being a "climate change denier" because I requested speedy on an article on a non-notable fringe ecological group in new zealand)) |
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::'''For the record:''' If I request speedy-delete one of your article, for A7 (non-notability) it's not because I don't like your cause/group/sister/band/pet rock. It's because it is [[WP:NN|not notable]]. You may feel he/she/it is important. It might be. But important is not ''notable''. |
#::'''For the record:''' If I request speedy-delete one of your article, for A7 (non-notability) it's not because I don't like your cause/group/sister/band/pet rock. It's because it is [[WP:NN|not notable]]. You may feel he/she/it is important. It might be. But important is not ''notable''. |
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:I will take rants and accusations of denial/revisionism at face value: baseless and vicious attacks on my integrity. I will '''not''' entertain you with justification. I will '''not''' entertain you with a debate. Your comments will just be ignored and deleted. [[User:Coren|Coren]] 19:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
#::I will take rants and accusations of denial/revisionism at face value: baseless and vicious attacks on my integrity. I will '''not''' entertain you with justification. I will '''not''' entertain you with a debate. Your comments will just be ignored and deleted. [[User:Coren|Coren]] 19:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:I expect admins to interact with others on a high moral standard. Please read [[WP:BITE]] and [[WP:AGF]], and try to learn from your mistake. I wish you the best of luck. [[User:YechielMan|YechielMan]] 04:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
#:I expect admins to interact with others on a high moral standard. Please read [[WP:BITE]] and [[WP:AGF]], and try to learn from your mistake. I wish you the best of luck. [[User:YechielMan|YechielMan]] 04:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Strong oppose''' per above. It's important to be civil, long rants or not. Incvility is not excused by someone else starting it. You should ''not'' refuse to explain why you did something because you dislike the person who asked you. If someone asks for justification, unless they are yelling at you (which this guy was not), I expect you to provide a reason behind your actions. A7 does not mention notability. The criterion is "does not ''assert'' the ''importance or significance'' of the subject". We really don't need a new person who misuses A7. And this was only a week ago... -[[User:Amarkov|Amarkov]] <small>[[User_talk:Amarkov|moo!]]</small> 04:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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#'''Strong oppose''' per above. It's important to be civil, long rants or not. Incvility is not excused by someone else starting it. |
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#'''Oppose''' per issues raised by YechielMan. This behavior is not indicative of someone who can be trusted with admin tools. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<span style="color:darkblue;"> |
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You should ''not'' refuse to explain why you did something because you dislike the person who asked you. If someone asks for justification, unless they are yelling at you (which this guy was not), I expect you to provide a reason behind your actions. |
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#'''Strong oppose''' Less than 300 article edits? Somewhere around 1000 edits overall? Nowhere near enough experience for me to trust you. <span style="font-family:serif;font-size:120%">'''[[User:Argyriou|Αργυριου]]''' [[User talk:Argyriou|(talk)]]</span> 04:38, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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A7 does not mention notability. The criterion is "does not ''assert'' the ''importance or significance'' of the subject". We really don't need a new person who misuses A7. |
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#'''Oppose''' - The item identified above by Yechiel man leads me to believe that the candidate cannot be trusted with admin status - at least, not now. Admins must not be personally offended when involved in a conflict. The candidate's threat to delete comments from his talk page is improper. - [[User:Richardcavell|Richard Cavell]] 07:00, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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And this was only a week ago... -[[User:Amarkov|Amarkov]] <small>[[User_talk:Amarkov|moo!]]</small> 04:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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'''Neutral''' |
'''Neutral''' |
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