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== Articles Needing Creation ==
== Persistent accessibility issues ==


I was encouraged to post here by another editor. Please note that per [[MOS:DTAB]], all data tables must have [[MOS:TABLECAPTIONS]] and semantic roles for columns and rows. These are required accessibility features or (among others) the blind to use our site. Please include them in all tables and definitely never ''remove'' them when you encounter them. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''<span style="color:black">v</span>f</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Two top suggestions if anyone is looking for some new articles to create. I may take these on myself if they remain unmade, but I have not seen them myself.
* [[Misty (play)]] - Nominated for an Olivier Award for Best New Play. [https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/blacktivist-rhetoric-and-impenetrable-symbols-misty-reviewed/][https://www.whatsonstage.com/london-theatre/news/arinze-kene-misty-theatre-trafalgar-studios_47575.html][https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/theatre-dance/reviews/misty-bush-theatre-review-a8274491.html][https://www.channel4.com/news/misty-playwright-arinze-kene-what-is-a-black-play][https://www.standard.co.uk/go/london/theatre/misty-review-arinze-kene-is-fiercely-articulate-in-hybrid-show-a3937441.html][https://www.bushtheatre.co.uk/event/misty-west-end/]
* [[The Height of the Storm]] - Played in the West End and transferring to Broadway in the fall.[https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2018/oct/09/the-height-of-the-storm-review-jonathan-pryce-eileen-atkins-florian-zeller][https://www.standard.co.uk/go/london/theatre/height-of-the-storm-review-a3958031.html][https://www.timeout.com/london/theatre/the-height-of-the-storm-review][https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/06/theater/the-height-of-the-storm-broadway.html][https://www.manhattantheatreclub.com/2019-20-season/the-height-of-the-storm/]


== Self-promotion & Wikipedia Abuse Among Theatrical Articles ==
Others: [[Jumpy (play)]], [[The Phlebotomist]], [[Patsy Ferran]], [[Keir Charles]], [[Cecilia Noble]]


I have identified a troubling series of article edits that bear questionable importance/relevance that are being added to many of the articles associated with popular theatrical productions. My concerns are not limited to anyone in particular, but certainly began with the user [[User:Greg Cesear|Greg_Cesear]], who seems to have been prolific in their efforts to paper Wikipedia articles with edits related to their own personal endeavors and accomplishments<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Greg_Cesear?useskin=vector</ref>, frequently with little or no discernible concern for historical significance to the articles featured topics, and that are clearly compromised by conflicts of interest.
== Join the Months of African Cinema Global Contest! ==


I have raised my concerns on the user's own [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Greg_Cesear?useskin=vector#Concern_over_many_of_this_user's_contributions. Talk] page, and have since been struggling with the idea of unilaterally removing their most questionable edits. I do not want to be seen as gatekeeping, and believe that anything that complies with Wikipedia's policies and furthers its mission should be included, regardless of how large, popular, or well-heeled the subject of a contribution might be. It's this same concern with the overarching goals of Wikipedia that also drives my concern for it being manipulated and misused as a vehicle for any one person's personal glory or reputation.
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Ideally, I would like to review edits such as [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1192444927&oldid=1191936875&title=Pack_of_Lies&useskin=vector this one] with the guidance and input of others within the Theatre WikiProject before I take any unilateral corrective actions, to ensure my perspective is not in some way skewed or misaligned, and that I am not missing something. If there is no discussion on this in the coming days, I will simply follow my instincts, and allow for the usual remediation facilities to mitigate any potential missteps. In either case, my thanks to anyone whose taken the time to read this. ~ [[User:SilverXnoise|SilverXnoise]] ([[User talk:SilverXnoise|talk]]) 22:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
[[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine|The AfroCine Project]] invites you to join us again this October and November, [[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine/Months of African Cinema|the two months which are dedicated to improving content]] about the cinema of Africa, the Caribbean, and the diaspora.


== Soliciting your input in the AFC process ==
Join us in this exciting venture, by helping to create or expand contents in Wikimedia projects which are connected to this scope. Kindly [[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine/Months of African Cinema#Participants|list your username under the participants section]] to indicate your interest in participating in this contest.


Hello WikiProject Theatre. If you'd be so kind, I'd like to solicit your input in the following discussion: [[Draft talk:History of theaters in Chehalis, Washington#Submitting draft for review!]] [[User talk:Melmann|<strong><span style="font-family:Segoe UI Semilight ; background-color: #ffd166; padding: 1px;"><span style="color: #ef476f;">Mel</span><span style="color: #8c8757;">ma</span><span style="color: #118ab2;">nn</span></span></strong>]] 21:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
We would be awarding prizes to different categories of winners:

*'''''Overall winner'''''
**1st - $500
**2nd - $200
**3rd - $100
*'''''Diversity winner''''' - $100
*'''''Gender-gap fillers''''' - $100
*'''''Language Winners''''' - up to $100*

We would be adding additional categories as the contest progresses, along with local prizes from affiliates in your countries. For further information about the contest, the prizes and how to participate, please visit the contest page [[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine/Months of African Cinema|here]]. For further inquiries, please leave comments on the contest talkpage or on the main project talkpage. Looking forward to your participation.--[[User:Jamie Tubers|Jamie Tubers]] ([[User talk:Jamie Tubers#top|talk]]) 19:22, 22nd September 2020 (UTC)}}

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== Welcome to the Months of African Cinema Global Contest! ==

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Greetings!

[[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine|The AfroCine Project]] core team is happy to inform you that the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine/Months of African Cinema|Months of African Cinema]] Contest is happening again this year in October and November. We invite Wikipedians all over the world to join in improving content related to African cinema on Wikipedia!

Please [[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine/Months of African Cinema#Participants|list your username under the participants’ section]] of the contest page to indicate your interest in participating in this contest. The term "African" in the context of this contest, includes people of African descent from all over the world, which includes the diaspora and the Caribbean.

The following prizes would be recognized at the end of the contest:

*'''''Overall winner'''''
**1st - $500
**2nd - $200
**3rd - $100
*'''''Diversity winner''''' - $100
*'''''Gender-gap fillers''''' - $100
*'''''Language Winners''''' - up to $100*

Also look out for local prizes from affiliates in your countries or communities! For further information about the contest, the prizes and how to participate, please visit the contest page [[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine/Months of African Cinema|here]]. For further inquiries, please leave comments on the contest talkpage or on the main project talkpage. We look forward to your participation.--[[User:Jamie Tubers|Jamie Tubers]] ([[User talk:Jamie Tubers#top|talk]]) 23:20, 30th September 2021 (UTC)}}

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== [[Citizens for the Adelphi Theater]] ==

I came across this article randomly and thought that the encyclopedia might be better served by an article on the historic theatre itself, with a small section on this non-profit (which probably wouldn't survive an AFD). Anyone willing to take on that project?[[User:4meter4|4meter4]] ([[User talk:4meter4|talk]]) 12:33, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

== FAR for His Majesty's Theatre, London ==

[[User:Buidhe]] has nominated [[His Majesty's Theatre, London]] for a [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/His Majesty's Theatre, London/archive1|featured article review here]]. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured article criteria]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured article review|here]].<!--Template:FARMessage--> [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 04:08, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
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=== Featured Article Save Award for [[His Majesty's Theatre, London]] ===
There is a [[WP:FASA|Featured Article Save Award]] nomination at [[Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/His Majesty's Theatre, London/archive1]]. Please join the discussion to recognize and celebrate editors who helped assure this article would retain its featured status. [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 01:02, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

== [[The Poor of New York]] v.s. [[The Streets of New York (play)]] ==

Hi all. I just came across ''[[The Poor of New York]]'' while researching on creating an article on the 1913 silent film ''The Streets of New York'' which is based on the play by [[Dion Boucicault]]. I noticed the play article did not even mention the alternative title of the work, "The Streets of New York", which in googling looks like it has been published under that title as well as performed under that title. I therefore created a redirect at [[The Streets of New York (play)]] and added it to the disambiguation page at [[The Streets of New York]]. I also created a [[The Poor of New York#Film adaptations]] section where you will notice all film adaptations have used the title "The Streets of New York". I also found an NYT review of a recent production title, [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/theater/streets-of-new-york-review.html The Streets of New York], which appears to be a musical adaptation. Ultimately, my question in all of this is, what article title should we use? It appears the play has been published under both titles. ''The Poor of New York'' is the original title, but all the adaptations use ''The Streets of New York'' and it looks like contemporary stagings use this title as well. I'm fine leaving it as is, but it's possible users might be more likely to search for the play under the title "The Streets of New York". Thoughts?[[User:4meter4|4meter4]] ([[User talk:4meter4|talk]]) 18:51, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

== Input request ==

Members may wish to comment here as some theatre actors, directors, etc. have been the recipient of this award. The outcome could also impact other categories on awards in the arts by setting a precedent. All opinions welcome. See [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 1#Category:Kennedy Center honorees]].[[User:4meter4|4meter4]] ([[User talk:4meter4|talk]]) 19:18, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

==I'm working on editing the Three Act Page==

I've been researching for books and history of the Three Act structure so I can fix that page, but the thing is the history of it coincides almost one to one with the Five-act structure. I'm not sure how to proceed. Should the Five Act structure redirect to three act, or should it have a new title?

The contents I'd propose has things like the myths of the Three Act structure, the rise of structuralism with plot, as suggested by Barthes, and the figures that actually pout it together--which is not Aristotle, but more a misunderstanding of Aristotle. I do have sources (primary) for all of it, so it's not original research. But often Three act and Five act are almost lockstep with each other as saw, someone like Kenneth Row, who argued roughly for Five Act, shows up in Three Act arguements. And the person who coined "inciting incident" (as a phrase). Refers to three act, but then it shows up in the Five act structure as well.

So any advice about how to get this to work would really help.

There's also the fact it's kind of the Structuralists v. Modernists. (coined by Barthes as structuralist).--[[User:KimYunmi|KimYunmi]] ([[User talk:KimYunmi|talk]]) 15:12, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

== One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement! ==


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== Proposed merge of [[Minstrels' gallery]] into [[Gallery (theatre)]] ==

I've opened a merge discussion at [[Talk:Gallery (theatre)]] that concerns this WikiProject. I'd appreciate any input from members! <span class="nowrap">—[[User:TechnoSquirrel69|TechnoSquirrel69]]</span> ([[User talk:TechnoSquirrel69|sigh]]) 02:01, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Revision as of 15:30, 22 June 2024

WikiProject iconTheatre Project‑class
WikiProject iconThis page is part of WikiProject Theatre, a WikiProject dedicated to coverage of theatre on Wikipedia.
To participate: Feel free to edit the page attached to this page, join up at the project page, or contribute to the project discussion.TheatreWikipedia:WikiProject TheatreTemplate:WikiProject TheatreTheatre articles
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Theatre articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 2 12 11 35 60
FL 1 8 35 44
FM 222 222
GA 3 10 19 123 6 161
B 17 66 154 500 41 778
C 37 119 425 2,444 128 3,153
Start 20 110 797 9,082 356 10,365
Stub 3 29 255 6,469 198 6,954
List 1 6 227 322 15 571
Category 1 1 3 6,554 6,559
Disambig 57 57
File 600 600
Portal 5 5
Project 31 31
Redirect 1 1 19 145 1,505 1,671
Template 579 579
NA 5 3 8
Other 216 216
Assessed 84 355 1,916 19,163 9,772 744 32,034
Unassessed 1 42 584 627
Total 84 355 1,917 19,205 9,772 1,328 32,661
WikiWork factors (?) ωおめが = 108,940 Ωおめが = 5.07

Persistent accessibility issues

I was encouraged to post here by another editor. Please note that per MOS:DTAB, all data tables must have MOS:TABLECAPTIONS and semantic roles for columns and rows. These are required accessibility features or (among others) the blind to use our site. Please include them in all tables and definitely never remove them when you encounter them. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Self-promotion & Wikipedia Abuse Among Theatrical Articles

I have identified a troubling series of article edits that bear questionable importance/relevance that are being added to many of the articles associated with popular theatrical productions. My concerns are not limited to anyone in particular, but certainly began with the user Greg_Cesear, who seems to have been prolific in their efforts to paper Wikipedia articles with edits related to their own personal endeavors and accomplishments[1], frequently with little or no discernible concern for historical significance to the articles featured topics, and that are clearly compromised by conflicts of interest.

I have raised my concerns on the user's own Talk page, and have since been struggling with the idea of unilaterally removing their most questionable edits. I do not want to be seen as gatekeeping, and believe that anything that complies with Wikipedia's policies and furthers its mission should be included, regardless of how large, popular, or well-heeled the subject of a contribution might be. It's this same concern with the overarching goals of Wikipedia that also drives my concern for it being manipulated and misused as a vehicle for any one person's personal glory or reputation.

Ideally, I would like to review edits such as this one with the guidance and input of others within the Theatre WikiProject before I take any unilateral corrective actions, to ensure my perspective is not in some way skewed or misaligned, and that I am not missing something. If there is no discussion on this in the coming days, I will simply follow my instincts, and allow for the usual remediation facilities to mitigate any potential missteps. In either case, my thanks to anyone whose taken the time to read this. ~ SilverXnoise (talk) 22:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Soliciting your input in the AFC process

Hello WikiProject Theatre. If you'd be so kind, I'd like to solicit your input in the following discussion: Draft talk:History of theaters in Chehalis, Washington#Submitting draft for review! Melmann 21:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Greg_Cesear?useskin=vector
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