Talk:Spore

Spore Seed

What is the difference between a a spore and a seed?

A spore is not much more than a bit of germ plasm (haploid or diploid cell) in a protective coat; a seed is a package that contains the next generation as an embryo (therefore diploid) along with some amount (depending on the species) of stored food, and all that wrapped in a protetive coat. - Marshman 00:15, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Are Spores Microbes?

Not always; many spores are reproductive or dispersal cells of macroscopic organisms.--Curtis Clark 17:48, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Spore (video game)

I believe a more relevant article for Spore is Spore (video game) now that the game is so popular in media. This article could be named Spore (biology) or some such. I may be wrong though...

-- Andreas Blixt 16:14, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

The scientific term spore is still the predominant meaning of "spore"; the article is fine where it is. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 23:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't agree more strongly. The title of a video game is the more relevant meaning? Please! Peter G Werner 02:29, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes. It is. Currently, the Spore video game page is getting thousands of reads. So is this, but it's only because when people type in Spore this is the first page they get to. Currently, Spore is definitely the more relevant page. However, a better idea would be for Spore to redirect to a disambiguation page and this page be, as he said, Spore (biology)

I just reverted an effective move of this page (see history of this and the disambig). Please do not move this page w/o achieving consensus at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Page moves like the one under discussion here can't be made unilaterally.--Kchase02 T 02:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Of course, this is a good place to test consensus before going to Requested Moves, and I'd say consensus for a move is not happening. Sorry, fans of Spore (video game).--Kchase02 T 02:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I do not agree with moving it to Spore (biology). Like it or not, spore is primarily used in the scientific sense - if you go to India and ask the professors there what "spore" means they won't ask if you if you mean the game or not. I'm an avid gamer and I've never even heard of Spore (video game)! Also think about it this way, the upcoming release of Wikipedia on CD wants high quality articles, do you think the video game stands on equal footing as the scientific term? The computer game itself I am assuming takes its meaning from the scientific term as well, surely that indicates something about its heirachical nature.

Also, the current Spore page has more meaningful links to it (i.e. not user pages or talk pages]]. Is it really that hard for gamers searching for the video game to follow one little link at the top of the page? -- Serephine / talk - 02:55, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Do not move – I imagine the game was named after the biological structure. I know the biological structure was not named after the game. Case closed, IMO.--Curtis Clark 03:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Move= Yes, the game was named after the biological structure, however, my point is that the game is just as relevant as the biological structure. Who cares what it's named for? Also, the Matrix movie is named after matrixes. That doesn't mean that matrix is more relevant article than the matrix. Catch my drift. Gah, I'm getting off topic. I vote move, because the game is just as relevant as the scientific meaning. Case closed, IMO.

If you haven't heard of the game, what the hell? That doesn't give you the right to say 'I haven't heard of it, so it's not relevant!'. Because this game is a major step for video games and it's all over gaming news. It's relevant. Oh, and lastly, look at the talk page for the video game. Look at this talk page. See the size? Then look at the article size of the video game. Way bigger. This game is just as relevant as Spore. Mrmoocow 03:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

The video game is named after the biological term. This move is ill advised and media attention for such things is fleeting, as opposed to established concepts in biology. Mike Dillon 03:57, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

The issue is also "popularity" within wikipedia. About 300 things link to this Spore, whereas less than 100 link to the video game. Ideally, all of the links to this article will have to be changed. So, unless there's evidence of overwhelming popularity of this game akin to that of Grand Theft Auto, then the move is not a good idea.--Kchase02 T 03:58, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Requested Move

I think that since the Spore video game is getting so much attention in the media, the scientific meaning of Spore isn't the only relevant meaning. I think that Spore should redirect to a disambiguation page, which would have links to both the scientific and the video game meanings. This page would then become Spore (biology)Mrmoocow 02:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

• Oh, and obviously I vote Strongly Support. Mrmoocow 02:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose Mike Dillon 03:52, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose. In the long run, and indeed, perhaps even in the short-run, the game is vastly less important than actual spores. --maru (talk) contribs 03:58, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose In the long run, the popularity of the game which was named after the actual object will simmer down. (I've been editing the Spore (video game) article as well; no bias be here) -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 04:15, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

Add any additional comments.

• Not participating b/c we don't take votes on anything. We have a discussion (like below) and seek consensus.--Kchase02 T 03:11, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Straw polls are useful to gauge consensus. That is, in cases where the discussions are very messy and not obviously one-sided. In this case, only one user seems to be supporting the change in the discussions, so the poll isn't incredibly useful. It doesn't hurt, though. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 04:16, 11 June 2006 (UTC)