Talk:Orange (fruit)

Short on expertise

The article was a little short on professional expertise, IMHO. Like it was written by researchers instead of someone who has spent their life working with oranges. Being a "navel orange freak" for over 50 years I've waited each year for navel season. Some years they are so sweet that I actually suspect sugar has been added. So I was a little disappointed with the lack of discussion of factors that affect quality and taste. Something a long-time grower might provide an opinion on.

Hybrid Fruit

On the Orange page it states that it's possible that the orange was a hybrid of the tangerine and the pomelo. But, when you read the pomelo entry, it states that the tangelo is a hybrid between the tangerine and pomelo. Can two fruits (i.e orange and tangelo) be differing hybrids from the same two sources? Stewart McAbney 10:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes it is possible for two hybrids of the same parentage to produce different looking plants, mainly due to what genetics it inherits. But the orange has been cultivated in china for a long time and therefore is not likely to look exactly like the first hybrid that was its ancestor. --Bjwebb (talk) 09:11, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Joke

I was wondering what is the black stuff that is sometimes present on the bottom of navel oranges, I tried searching for this on google and wikipedia but didn't find anything. If anyone knows what it is, I think it would be very useful to include it in the article. Thanks!

Just in case you are wondering what it looks like, it is something black that seems to go inside the orange about a centimeter or so. You can clearly see it from the outside if you look at the navel part of the orange, but usually it's not present. I would say 5-10% of the navel oranges I have seen have this.

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Nah.. it came from someone saying: Knock knock. Who's there? Banana. Banana who? Knock knock. Who's there? Banana. Banana who? Knock knock. Stop knocking who is this anyway? Orange. Orange who? Orange you glad i stopped saying banana?

Not quite; it happened in French. The 'n' is still present in Spanish. The same thing happened to several other words, such as umpire and newt (the other way). In French, the 'n' was assimilated to the indefinite article "une". -phma

This is a common thing in English. I guess I should add it to the A, an article. An even weirder one in French was the transition from l'ejade to le jade. Ortolan88

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OK, is the fruit named for the colour (as it says in the entry or the colour) or the colour named for the fruit (as stated in this article about the fruit)? And is there a good citation to link to about this? - Logotu 23:39, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

No one ever answered the question, but the colour entry was changed to agree with this one that the fruit came first, so all seems to be good. - Logotu 01:39, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The color is named for the fruit. In Old English, the color was originally called "geoluhread" (Modern English: "yellowred"). When the fruit made its way to the English-speaking world, "orange" was probably used for a particular shade of yellowred, just as "lime" and "melon" are used for shades of green, "rose" a shade of red, or "violet" a shade of purple. The word "orange" obviously supplanted "yellowred" as a whole, but I haven't the slightest idea when this was. --Corvun 01:54, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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the rind

is the entire rind edible, like an apple's? (i'd especially like to know since i just ate a whole orange, in the manner of eating an apple)

Yes, the rind is perfectly edible. As a matter of fact, you can put yeast on the rind, keep it somewhat damp (do not submerge it in water), and in a few weeks you'll have a hallucinogenic substance on your hands. Just scrape off the mold, grap something tasty to drink for a chaser (it will taste horrible), and you're ready for a citrus-trip. --Corvun 04:34, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

Name the Parts

What are the proper names for the different parts of the peel? What is the proper name for the white stuff left on the orange after you peel it? The photos in the article are nice, but we need a good illustration too, with all the detailed component parts called out.

Segmentless oranges

My Argentinian friend claims that the oranges he eats in Argentina have no segments. I don't believe him. There's no such thing as an orange without segments, is there?

too many images!

I've been bold and gone ahead in restructuring the article somewhat (hopefully better!). But the big problem is that there's too many images, which severely distorts the rendering of the page, especially om monitors 1024 and less pixels wide. No offense meant to any of the photographers, but I've gone ahead and removed a few and shifted it all to the right. Maybe we could find a better solution to showcase all the photographs we have...? Dewet 19:15, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Cultivation and uses

The text mentions : "Orange cultivation is a major business and an important part of the economies of ... Romania". Now, I showed this to my friend, a Romanian, and he was very surprised to learn this. He maintains that Romania has a climate similar to North America and that it's strange that oranges would manage to grow in his home country. Does anyone know if we have a reference citing Romania as an orange grower? Does anyone have any proof for either sides? I'll leave it for now, until I find my answer. ----Xtanstic 02:05, 19 October 2005

2005 World Production Data Available

http://faostat.fao.org/faostat/servlet/XteServlet3?Areas=%3E862&Items=490&Elements=51&Years=2005&Format=Table&Xaxis=Years&Yaxis=Countries&Aggregate=&Calculate=&Domain=SUA&ItemTypes=Production.Crops.Primary&language=EN

Should replace 2004 in wiki. 4 new countries producing oranges this year.

'Orange' redirect

""Orange" redirects here. For other uses, see Orange (disambiguation)." This is no longer true, 'Orange' goes to the disambiguation page.

Disputed

Why is there a disputed tag on this page indicating that the accuracy of this entire article is being disputed? It refers readers to this talk page for more information, yet (until this comment), there does not appear to be any dispute. If nobody cares to discuss the dispute, the tag should be removed within a few days. I seriously doubt the entire article is in dispute (it reads well to me as-is), so probably only a portion of it should be tagged, and with a more specific tag. Most importantly, the dispute should be discussed here. --Willscrlt 09:55, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Production of oranges by state

I was wondering what the statistics of orange production within the United States- state by state. I'm sure most of us are aware that Florida has top honors, but other states such as California, Arizona, and Texas also produce oranges. Has anyone seen these figures? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Buddmar (talk • contribs) 16:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC).

Unflattering Picture of a Sectioned Orange

I think this picture is unflattering if not disgusting. Who would want to eat an orange after seeing that picture? I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it were inserted by somebody in the apple industry (known to be unscrupulous) or somebody with an extreme dislike of oranges. A picture that unflattering does not occur by mistake and I'm quite certain there is an agenda behind it. I know that this page is meant to be informative and not pro-orange, but that picture is treading into the dangerous territory of being anti-orange. I'm not saying that we should use the most flattering picture of a sectioned orange available on the 'net, but surely a compromise can be reached. I nominate that it be removed or changed in favor of a more neutral picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.164.60.98 (talk • contribs)

Yes this is clearly a far-malus conspiracy to drive down orange sales among the compulsive wikipedia browsing population. Please take whatever action you feel is necessary to restore the vital balance of presentation so that the prolitariate may once again rejuice. - JustinWick 19:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I think the picture is acceptable, and I think it is difficult for a picture to be neutral. Note that the same IP address also believes that oranges do not grow on trees WLU 19:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I do not think you truely grasp the extent to which apple fans will go to sabotage their competition. I hereby declare that all images of oranges on Wikipedia should be examined for NPOVness. 216.164.60.98, why don't you get on this ASAP? - JustinWick 21:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)