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*'''Oppose''' as even though there may be a separate Unicode character, it cannot be easily typed, and our readers will not have a problem understanding apostrophe. Perhaps DISPLYTITLE could be used to display that way, but optional. [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett|talk]]) 20:24, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
*'''Oppose''' as even though there may be a separate Unicode character, it cannot be easily typed, and our readers will not have a problem understanding apostrophe. Perhaps DISPLYTITLE could be used to display that way, but optional. [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett|talk]]) 20:24, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Support'''. Prime characters should be used (or displayed via DISPLAYTITLE) in article titles to follow IUPAC nomenclature. This is a small, easy thing that makes an article appear more professional, and is how molecules are referred to commonly (e.g. [[Directionality (molecular biology)]]). I am unconvinced the articles will be harder to find as search ([[Help:Searching#Under the hood]], CirrusSearch) should ignore prime characters, apostrophes and single quote characters as 'greyspace'. Search uses paired quote marks to search for exact phrases. Linking to the articles will be accommodated by the redirects. The issues with some screen readers not reading prime characters properly brought up in the above linked [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemistry/Archive_44#Typography_of_primes]] may be an issue, but all will read a apostrophe or quote character as is, which is definitely wrong. ― [[User:Synpath|'''Syn''']][[User talk:Synpath|path]] 21:14, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
*'''Support'''. Prime characters should be used (or displayed via DISPLAYTITLE) in article titles to follow IUPAC nomenclature. This is a small, easy thing that makes an article appear more professional, and is how molecules are referred to commonly (e.g. [[Directionality (molecular biology)]]). I am unconvinced the articles will be harder to find as search ([[Help:Searching#Under the hood]], CirrusSearch) should ignore prime characters, apostrophes and single quote characters as 'greyspace'. Search uses paired quote marks to search for exact phrases. Linking to the articles will be accommodated by the redirects. The issues with some screen readers not reading prime characters properly brought up in the above linked [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemistry/Archive_44#Typography_of_primes]] may be an issue, but all will read a apostrophe or quote character as is, which is definitely wrong. ― [[User:Synpath|'''Syn''']][[User talk:Synpath|path]] 21:14, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''': (1) [[WP:DISPLAYTITLE]] cannot make an apostrophe (') into a prime (′) or vice versa as suggested above. (2) In some typefaces/devices, an apostrophe and a prime look the same, and in others the prime is angled slightly to the right like [[:File:Prime (symbol).svg]] ([[File:Prime (symbol).svg|50px]]). [[User:SilverLocust|<small style="color:#667;background:white;border:2px solid;border-radius:4px;padding:0 4px">SilverLocust</small>]] [[User talk:SilverLocust|💬]] 21:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
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- 1,1'-Bis(diphenylphosphino)ferrocene → 1,1′-Bis(diphenylphosphino)ferrocene
- (1,1'-Bis(diphenylphosphino)ferrocene)palladium(II) dichloride → (1,1′-Bis(diphenylphosphino)ferrocene)palladium(II) dichloride
- 1,1'-Dilithioferrocene → 1,1′-Dilithioferrocene
- 1,1'-Ferrocenediisocyanate → 1,1′-Ferrocenediisocyanate
- 1,1'-Azobis-1,2,3-triazole → 1,1′-Azobis-1,2,3-triazole
- 1,1'-Ferrocenedicarboxylic acid → 1,1′-Ferrocenedicarboxylic acid
- 1,1'-Binaphthyl → 1,1′-Binaphthyl
- 1,1'-Diaminoferrocene → 1,1′-Diaminoferrocene
- Pyrimidine-deoxynucleoside 1'-dioxygenase → Pyrimidine-deoxynucleoside 1′-dioxygenase
- 1,1'-Ferrocenetrisulfide → 1,1′-Ferrocenetrisulfide
- 1,1'-Dihydroxydicyclohexyl peroxide → 1,1′-Dihydroxydicyclohexyl peroxide
- Arachidonyl-2'-chloroethylamide → Arachidonyl-2′-chloroethylamide
- Isoflavone 2'-hydroxylase → Isoflavone 2′-hydroxylase
- 4'-methoxyisoflavone 2'-hydroxylase → 4′-methoxyisoflavone 2′-hydroxylase
- 8-Oxo-2'-deoxyguanosine → 8-Oxo-2′-deoxyguanosine
- Transition metal complexes of 2,2'-bipyridine → Transition metal complexes of 2,2′-bipyridine
- 2'-O-methylation → 2′-O-methylation
- 2,2'-Dipyridyldisulfide → 2,2′-Dipyridyldisulfide
- 5-Ethynyl-2'-deoxyuridine → 5-Ethynyl-2′-deoxyuridine
- TRNA (cytidine34-2'-O)-methyltransferase → TRNA (cytidine34-2′-O)-methyltransferase
- Disodium 4,4'-dinitrostilbene-2,2'-disulfonate → Disodium 4,4′-dinitrostilbene-2,2′-disulfonate
- 2'-5'-oligoadenylate synthase → 2′-5′-oligoadenylate synthase
- 23S rRNA (uridine2552-2'-O)-methyltransferase → 23S rRNA (uridine2552-2′-O)-methyltransferase
- TRNA (cytidine56-2'-O)-methyltransferase → TRNA (cytidine56-2′-O)-methyltransferase
- 2,2'-Bis(2-indenyl) biphenyl → 2,2′-Bis(2-indenyl) biphenyl
- 23S rRNA (guanosine2251-2'-O)-methyltransferase → 23S rRNA (guanosine2251-2′-O)-methyltransferase
- 21S rRNA (uridine2791-2'-O)-methyltransferase → 21S rRNA (uridine2791-2′-O)-methyltransferase
- TRNA (cytidine32/uridine32-2'-O)-methyltransferase → TRNA (cytidine32/uridine32-2′-O)-methyltransferase
- 27S pre-rRNA (guanosine2922-2'-O)-methyltransferase → 27S pre-rRNA (guanosine2922-2′-O)-methyltransferase
- 2,2'-Azobis(2-amidinopropane) dihydrochloride → 2,2′-Azobis(2-amidinopropane) dihydrochloride
- 2'-N-acetylparomamine deacetylase → 2′-N-acetylparomamine deacetylase
- 23S rRNA (cytidine2498-2'-O)-methyltransferase → 23S rRNA (cytidine2498-2′-O)-methyltransferase
- Isoliquiritigenin 2'-O-methyltransferase → Isoliquiritigenin 2′-O-methyltransferase
- MRNA (nucleoside-2'-O-)-methyltransferase → MRNA (nucleoside-2′-O-)-methyltransferase
- 2,2'-Biquinoline → 2,2′-Biquinoline
- 2'-hydroxybiphenyl-2-sulfinate desulfinase → 2′-hydroxybiphenyl-2-sulfinate desulfinase
- TRNA guanosine-2'-O-methyltransferase → TRNA guanosine-2′-O-methyltransferase
- 2,2'-Biphenol → 2,2′-Biphenol
- 2,2'-Dipyridylamine → 2,2′-Dipyridylamine
- 5-(3,4-diacetoxybut-1-ynyl)-2,2'-bithiophene deacetylase → 5-(3,4-diacetoxybut-1-ynyl)-2,2′-bithiophene deacetylase
- 2',3'-cyclic-nucleotide 2'-phosphodiesterase → 2′,3′-cyclic-nucleotide 2′-phosphodiesterase
- 2'-Deamino-2'-hydroxyneamine transaminase → 2′-Deamino-2′-hydroxyneamine transaminase
- 23S rRNA (uridine2479-2'-O)-methyltransferase → 23S rRNA (uridine2479-2′-O)-methyltransferase
- 2'-Fucosyllactose → 2′-Fucosyllactose
- 2,2'-Bithiophene → 2,2′-Bithiophene
- 2'-Hydroxyisoflavone reductase → 2′-Hydroxyisoflavone reductase
- 2,2'-Bipyrimidine → 2,2′-Bipyrimidine
- 2'-phosphotransferase → 2′-phosphotransferase
- Macrolide 2'-kinase → Macrolide 2′-kinase
– Proper formatting using prime symbols rather than apostrophes per discussion at Talk:3"-deamino-3"-oxonicotianamine reductase. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:52, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I've notified WT:CHEMS for you, since you are discussing something based on their MOS and that affects tons of articles in their project area. DMacks (talk) 19:43, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Tentative oppose all, per accessibility (ease of typing), and a mess of accessibility/mixed-meanings and actual IUPAC-proposed composing of multi-prime characters (see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemistry/Archive_44#Typography_of_primes) since presumably this would become a WP style guideline applicable to multi-primes also. DMacks (talk) 19:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as even though there may be a separate Unicode character, it cannot be easily typed, and our readers will not have a problem understanding apostrophe. Perhaps DISPLYTITLE could be used to display that way, but optional. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:24, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Prime characters should be used (or displayed via DISPLAYTITLE) in article titles to follow IUPAC nomenclature. This is a small, easy thing that makes an article appear more professional, and is how molecules are referred to commonly (e.g. Directionality (molecular biology)). I am unconvinced the articles will be harder to find as search (Help:Searching#Under the hood, CirrusSearch) should ignore prime characters, apostrophes and single quote characters as 'greyspace'. Search uses paired quote marks to search for exact phrases. Linking to the articles will be accommodated by the redirects. The issues with some screen readers not reading prime characters properly brought up in the above linked Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemistry/Archive_44#Typography_of_primes may be an issue, but all will read a apostrophe or quote character as is, which is definitely wrong. ― Synpath 21:14, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: (1) WP:DISPLAYTITLE cannot make an apostrophe (') into a prime (′) or vice versa as suggested above. (2) In some typefaces/devices, an apostrophe and a prime look the same, and in others the prime is angled slightly to the right like File:Prime (symbol).svg (). SilverLocust 💬 21:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)