Talk:1,1'-Bis(diphenylphosphino)ferrocene

Requested move 4 January 2024

• 1,1'-Bis(diphenylphosphino)ferrocene → 1,1′-Bis(diphenylphosphino)ferrocene
• (1,1'-Bis(diphenylphosphino)ferrocene)palladium(II) dichloride → (1,1′-Bis(diphenylphosphino)ferrocene)palladium(II) dichloride
• 1,1'-Dilithioferrocene → 1,1′-Dilithioferrocene
• 1,1'-Ferrocenediisocyanate → 1,1′-Ferrocenediisocyanate
• 1,1'-Azobis-1,2,3-triazole → 1,1′-Azobis-1,2,3-triazole
• 1,1'-Ferrocenedicarboxylic acid → 1,1′-Ferrocenedicarboxylic acid
• 1,1'-Binaphthyl → 1,1′-Binaphthyl
• 1,1'-Diaminoferrocene → 1,1′-Diaminoferrocene
• Pyrimidine-deoxynucleoside 1'-dioxygenase → Pyrimidine-deoxynucleoside 1′-dioxygenase
• 1,1'-Ferrocenetrisulfide → 1,1′-Ferrocenetrisulfide
• 1,1'-Dihydroxydicyclohexyl peroxide → 1,1′-Dihydroxydicyclohexyl peroxide
• Arachidonyl-2'-chloroethylamide → Arachidonyl-2′-chloroethylamide
• Isoflavone 2'-hydroxylase → Isoflavone 2′-hydroxylase
• 4'-methoxyisoflavone 2'-hydroxylase → 4′-methoxyisoflavone 2′-hydroxylase
• 8-Oxo-2'-deoxyguanosine → 8-Oxo-2′-deoxyguanosine
• Transition metal complexes of 2,2'-bipyridine → Transition metal complexes of 2,2′-bipyridine
• 2'-O-methylation → 2′-O-methylation
• 2,2'-Dipyridyldisulfide → 2,2′-Dipyridyldisulfide
• 5-Ethynyl-2'-deoxyuridine → 5-Ethynyl-2′-deoxyuridine
• TRNA (cytidine34-2'-O)-methyltransferase → TRNA (cytidine34-2′-O)-methyltransferase
• Disodium 4,4'-dinitrostilbene-2,2'-disulfonate → Disodium 4,4′-dinitrostilbene-2,2′-disulfonate
• 2'-5'-oligoadenylate synthase → 2′-5′-oligoadenylate synthase
• 23S rRNA (uridine2552-2'-O)-methyltransferase → 23S rRNA (uridine2552-2′-O)-methyltransferase
• TRNA (cytidine56-2'-O)-methyltransferase → TRNA (cytidine56-2′-O)-methyltransferase
• 2,2'-Bis(2-indenyl) biphenyl → 2,2′-Bis(2-indenyl) biphenyl
• 23S rRNA (guanosine2251-2'-O)-methyltransferase → 23S rRNA (guanosine2251-2′-O)-methyltransferase
• 21S rRNA (uridine2791-2'-O)-methyltransferase → 21S rRNA (uridine2791-2′-O)-methyltransferase
• TRNA (cytidine32/uridine32-2'-O)-methyltransferase → TRNA (cytidine32/uridine32-2′-O)-methyltransferase
• 27S pre-rRNA (guanosine2922-2'-O)-methyltransferase → 27S pre-rRNA (guanosine2922-2′-O)-methyltransferase
• 2,2'-Azobis(2-amidinopropane) dihydrochloride → 2,2′-Azobis(2-amidinopropane) dihydrochloride
• 2'-N-acetylparomamine deacetylase → 2′-N-acetylparomamine deacetylase
• 23S rRNA (cytidine2498-2'-O)-methyltransferase → 23S rRNA (cytidine2498-2′-O)-methyltransferase
• Isoliquiritigenin 2'-O-methyltransferase → Isoliquiritigenin 2′-O-methyltransferase
• MRNA (nucleoside-2'-O-)-methyltransferase → MRNA (nucleoside-2′-O-)-methyltransferase
• 2,2'-Biquinoline → 2,2′-Biquinoline
• 2'-hydroxybiphenyl-2-sulfinate desulfinase → 2′-hydroxybiphenyl-2-sulfinate desulfinase
• TRNA guanosine-2'-O-methyltransferase → TRNA guanosine-2′-O-methyltransferase
• 2,2'-Biphenol → 2,2′-Biphenol
• 2,2'-Dipyridylamine → 2,2′-Dipyridylamine
• 5-(3,4-diacetoxybut-1-ynyl)-2,2'-bithiophene deacetylase → 5-(3,4-diacetoxybut-1-ynyl)-2,2′-bithiophene deacetylase
• 2',3'-cyclic-nucleotide 2'-phosphodiesterase → 2′,3′-cyclic-nucleotide 2′-phosphodiesterase
• 2'-Deamino-2'-hydroxyneamine transaminase → 2′-Deamino-2′-hydroxyneamine transaminase
• 23S rRNA (uridine2479-2'-O)-methyltransferase → 23S rRNA (uridine2479-2′-O)-methyltransferase
• 2'-Fucosyllactose → 2′-Fucosyllactose
• 2,2'-Bithiophene → 2,2′-Bithiophene
• 2'-Hydroxyisoflavone reductase → 2′-Hydroxyisoflavone reductase
• 2,2'-Bipyrimidine → 2,2′-Bipyrimidine
• 2'-phosphotransferase → 2′-phosphotransferase
• Macrolide 2'-kinase → Macrolide 2′-kinase

– Proper formatting using prime symbols rather than apostrophes per discussion at Talk:3"-deamino-3"-oxonicotianamine reductase. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:52, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

I've notified WT:CHEMS for you, since you are discussing something based on their MOS and that affects tons of articles in their project area. DMacks (talk) 19:43, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

• Tentative oppose all, per accessibility (ease of typing), and a mess of accessibility/mixed-meanings and actual IUPAC-proposed composing of multi-prime characters (see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemistry/Archive_44#Typography_of_primes) since presumably this would become a WP style guideline applicable to multi-primes also. DMacks (talk) 19:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose as even though there may be a separate Unicode character, it cannot be easily typed, and our readers will not have a problem understanding apostrophe. Perhaps DISPLYTITLE could be used to display that way, but optional. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:24, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Prime characters should be used (or displayed via DISPLAYTITLE) in article titles to follow IUPAC nomenclature. This is a small, easy thing that makes an article appear more professional, and is how molecules are referred to commonly (e.g. Directionality (molecular biology)). I am unconvinced the articles will be harder to find as search (Help:Searching#Under the hood, CirrusSearch) should ignore prime characters, apostrophes and single quote characters as 'greyspace'. Search uses paired quote marks to search for exact phrases. Linking to the articles will be accommodated by the redirects. The issues with some screen readers not reading prime characters properly brought up in the above linked Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemistry/Archive_44#Typography_of_primes may be an issue, but all will read a apostrophe or quote character as is, which is definitely wrong. ― Synpath 21:14, 4 January 2024 (UTC) Struck suggestion DISPLAYTITLE is not capable of. ― Synpath 01:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: (1) WP:DISPLAYTITLE cannot make an apostrophe (') into a prime (′) or vice versa as suggested above. (2) In some typefaces/devices, an apostrophe and a prime look the same, and in others the prime is angled slightly to the right like File:Prime (symbol).svg (). SilverLocust 💬 21:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support: The pages' previous title should still redirect to the new ones, so a user typing into the search bar the current name will still get the article. This is similar to the consensus on WP:DIACRITICS. Bensci54 (talk) 21:43, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

The use of redirects to handle typing difficulties is also advocated by WP:TSC. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 04:29, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per opinions of veteran chemistry editors DMacks and Graeme Bartlett. It's always curious that editors who do not edit in Chemistry swoop in on this kind of discussion. --Smokefoot (talk) 22:56, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose If the article titles are changed the body text of the article will still use apostrophes; if an effort is made to change the body text then apostrophes will be slowly be reintroduced by subsequent edits. In any scenario the pages will end up containing 2 different forms of the same name, which may cause issues with text readers and searches. Stacked against this is a change which offers no real benefit to our readers, it's imperceptible and thus hollow . Even those in the profession are unlikely to notice or care. --Project Osprey (talk) 23:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)