Wikipedia talk:WikiProject London Transport

Underneath the arches

(Reposted from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways, where there was no response.)

In urban Britain, railway arches are almost ubiquitous. Searching online finds no end of shops in arches, cafes in arches, businesses run in arches, light industry in arches, arches for rent - almost all contemporary.

But railway arches have been around for at least 187 years. A search on WP finds them all over the place, but the information is all scattered. Does any one know of a history, or other deeper analysis, of railway arches? Sadly, this documentary is focussed on the homeless people in the arches, not the architecture - but they are still part of the bigger picture.

So: a book? website? PhD thesis? Photo essay? Radio or TV documentary? Is there anything out there that gives the arches the attention they surely deserve? -- Verbarson  ^talk_edits 16:33, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Reposted to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. -- Verbarson  ^talk_edits 18:00, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Discussion on the ref desk resulted in Draft:Railway arches in London being started. -- Verbarson  ^talk_edits 17:23, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Streetcars

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Streetcars#RfC: Notability and Tramlink stops, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Thryduulf (talk) 21:37, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

New article

I have recently started an article on the Hammersmith Depot. Please feel free to add and expand if you can. Thanks. Elshad (talk) 21:41, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Crossrail site references

Crossrail appear to have redirected all urls on their site e.g. [1] [2] to a Wayback Machine copy of their homepage [3]. This has of course broken a tonne of references. Anyone know an easy way to resolve this? the wub "?!" 11:01, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

I've made a request for a bot to fix the links. See Wikipedia:Link rot/URL change requests#crossrail.co.uk. Thryduulf (talk) 12:52, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! the wub "?!" 13:15, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

New London Overground lines

The new names for the London Overground lines have been announced. [4] I propose the following to accommodate this.

• New article Mildmay line, we also have articles for North London line and West London line for the routes the service passes over and they have their own separate histories.
• New article Windrush line, we also have articles for East London line and South London line for the routes the service passes over and they have their own separate histories.
• New article Weaver line, we also have an article for Lea Valley lines but this covers services to Hertford and Stratford run by Greater Anglia.
• New article Lioness line, because the Watford DC line also carries the Bakerloo line.
• Move Romford–Upminster line to Liberty line, because the line and service pattern are the same and having two articles for this would be a duplication.
• Move Gospel Oak to Barking line to Suffragette line, because service pattern are the same and having two articles for this would be a duplication.

I deliberately put the Goblin last as it is the one I'm least certain about. Thoughts? MRSC (talk) 08:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Per WP:COMMONNAME we should wait a bit before moving anything as it's way to soon to know if these names will catch on (the initial reaction in the enthusiast community has not been positive, but again its too soon to know how representative that is), especially as the branding hasn't even begun to be implemented yet.

As for the Lioness line, I don't think that needs a separate article just a section (at most) about the name and moving the article (if it becomes the common name). We don't have a separate article for the Richmond branch just because it also carries the District line. Thryduulf (talk) 09:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

"the initial reaction in the enthusiast community has not been positive" not my experience, but experiences differ!

Yes, we should wait until these are implemented before moving anything. Turini2 (talk) 09:55, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

@Chessrat has proposed moves of the below on the talk on the Talk:Watford DC line...

• Watford DC line → Lioness line
• Gospel Oak to Barking line → Suffragette line
• Lea Valley lines → Weaver line
• Romford–Upminster line → Liberty line
• East London line → Windrush line
• North London line → Mildmay line

Turini2 (talk) 16:30, 15 February 2024 (UTC)