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::::What about my original concern? Stub sorting is an important part of categorisation, and I'd really like your input on why you decided to revert my stub sorting. [[User:Suntooooth|Suntooooth]], it/he ([[User talk:Suntooooth|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Suntooooth|contribs]]) 13:09, 3 April 2024 (UTC) |
::::What about my original concern? Stub sorting is an important part of categorisation, and I'd really like your input on why you decided to revert my stub sorting. [[User:Suntooooth|Suntooooth]], it/he ([[User talk:Suntooooth|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Suntooooth|contribs]]) 13:09, 3 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::And [[:Ischyrophaga ischyri|I. ischyri]] distribution is only in [[:Cuba]]? That may well be where its holotype was was from, but [[GBIF]] [https://www.gbif.org/species/1462424 tells us that] [[Coquillett]] says it is "A new dexiid parasite of a Cuban beetle". Presumably I. ischyri didn't limit itself to that one Caribbean island, as [[The Beatles' 1964 North American tour|they toured North America in 1964]] and wore [[Beatle boot|cuban heels]] and... oh, wait on a while. Beetle and Beatle. Surely a common misunderstanding, I guess. --[[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 🦘 10:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
:::::And [[:Ischyrophaga ischyri|I. ischyri]] distribution is only in [[:Cuba]]? That may well be where its holotype was was from, but [[GBIF]] [https://www.gbif.org/species/1462424 tells us that] [[Coquillett]] says it is "A new dexiid parasite of a Cuban beetle". Presumably I. ischyri didn't limit itself to that one Caribbean island, as [[The Beatles' 1964 North American tour|they toured North America in 1964]] and wore [[Beatle boot|cuban heels]] and... oh, wait on a while. Beetle and Beatle. Surely a common misunderstanding, I guess. --[[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 🦘 10:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Spelling in new articles
Hi there - I noticed you misspelled "European" as "Europen" in a number of articles you created recently. Might be worth checking the spelling if you're using a template or script. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you (species articles!)
Good on you for creating all those species articles (with references!) - I hope you keep up the excellent work. You also might be interested in being a part of WP:TOL. Kind regards. Calaka (talk) 13:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Polypedilum article
Hi Simuliid
I saw your new artcle, Polypedilum. Is there a problem (bot?), as it refers to Lauterborniella in the lead in and taxobox? I didn't want to make a change before you had the chance to review. Cheers, Heds (talk) 03:54, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Thumbs up
Just stopping by to complement you on all the insect articles you are creating. I'm working on moths myself, but saw a lot of your articles when randombly browsing around. I found a usefull site for pictures some time ago, which might be usefull for you too (but then again, you might already be aware of it). http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/order.cfm?id=58&goButton=+go+ Cheers and keep up the great work! Ruigeroeland (talk) 11:22, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
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Hi there. I see your new articles about insects come up a lot in New Page Patrol. Consider applying for the autoreviewer permission. This will make pages you create show up as already patrolled, meaning that they won't come up in the NPP logs, saving us at NPP a little effort. I'll gladly nominate you myself, if you'd prefer. — ækTalk 10:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC) PS -- thanks for all the work you're doing to expand the articles on insect taxa!
- Hi, after reading one of your articles at newpage patrol I was surprised to see that an editor who has contributed as much as you have hadn't been approved as an wp:Autoreviewer. So I've taken the liberty of rectifying that. ϢereSpielChequers 17:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Many thanks :-) 17:53, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Duplicate articles
Hi there. I think Nephrotoma quadrifaria and Nephrotoma appendiculata are duplicates. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:21, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
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Hi
You were recommended to me for possible help on the article scaptia lata. In particular, I am not 100% sure I have identified the species in the photo correctly. I created the article for the photo. You may also wish to create a user page for your account that gives a little background information about yourself. Having a blank user page is a little confusing for other users. Jason Quinn (talk) 14:42, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help with the article, Simuliid. I did not keep the specimen but I have several other photos of the same fly and some others of a second fly. It literally just landed on my shoulder and I handed my camera to my girlfriend who snapped a few shots before he flew away. I am quite happy that I managed to get this photo "in the wild". The other photos are of varying quality, most of which are not very good, but there's one more that I may add to the article that shows the fly directly from above. It would be interesting to discover the sex of the creature in the photo, perhaps via coloration. Jason Quinn (talk) 13:13, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
- I posted a new photo at the article showing the fly directly from above. The fly was at the very bottom of the photo hence the tight cropping on the picture. I also asked the same question about the fly's sex at Talk:Scaptia_lata so others can contribute if they want. Jason Quinn (talk) 17:52, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
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Minor ranks in taxoboxes
I'm pretty sure we've discussed this before, but I would remind you that there is a strong consensus, demonstrated on more than one occasion, that minor ranks should not be included in taxoboxes unless they're directly relevant. That means you should not include suborders on articles dealing with a species or genus, for instance. The taxobox is meant to be a summary, not an exhaustive list, so all that is required, typically, are the seven major ranks (kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, species). I know that it can be difficult to know which ranks the general reader will consider important if you are a specialist in a given group (since all the taxa seem important to you), but I can assure you that for flies, nothing is needed between Order and Family, and in most cases, nothing is needed between Family and Genus. --Stemonitis (talk) 06:00, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
- 1st point not discised before.
- The guidelines on this subject state not to use Minor ranks in taxoboxes - unless there is a consensuses to include then. With Diptera many workers are including these, so I am following consensus and the guidelines.
- Unlike other orders, the real detail in Diptera classification is in the in the minor ranks. In other orders, for example mollusca, linnaeus's simple model works very well, and I would not even stop to consider including them when I edit a non-diptera page. For Diptera with great diversity in the several hundred families, it does not.
- When I visit museum collections on Diptera research, these collections are ordered by these minor ranks, I can not find the hoverfly collections, without knowing that they are in the Aschiza part of the collection. My assumption is other diptera workers on wikipedia include these ranks for similar reasions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simuliid (talk • contribs) 07:44, 18 June 2010
- I have moved the discussion here, where it began, in order to keep it all in one place.
- The issue may not have been discussed here before, but the issue has been discussed quite widely. Have a look at User talk:Mark-mitchell-aldershot, which is another user account that made the sort of edits you promote. There, a variety of editors, including Shyamal, Dyanega, Pro bug catcher, myself and KP Botany all tried to make the same point, which is that too many taxa makes the taxobox worse, not better. This is in addition to the fact that the guidelines for taxobox usage were also established by wide user input. The consensus is thus clearly opposed to the inclusion of minor ranks except very close to the subject of the article. The presence of minor ranks, and their holding "the real detail", is not exclusive to flies (and Mollusca may not be the best example of a simple Linnaean hierarchy; as a random example, see Gyraulus riparius). Flies are no different to many other orders; I recently discovered that acarologists have felt the need to invent a new rank of "cohort" (distinct from the usual zoological meaning) to encompass their classification of ticks and mites, for instance. Finally, while ease of navigation in museum collections is a laudable aim, it is not the role of Wikipedia, and the encyclopaedic content should not be compromised by an attempt to cram too much taxonomic detail into an article. If a reader wants to know what suborder a particualr species is in, they can either move up the taxonomy presented in the taxobox (clicking on the family should normally suffice), or through the Wikispecies links (or even {{TaxonIds}}) that we provide for that purpose.
- To summarise, there is a strong consensus that adding minor ranks to taxoboxes is not desirable. Continuing to do so without first seeking to gain consensus may be seen as disruptive. --Stemonitis (talk) 12:29, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
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- I repeat, minor ranks distant from the article's subject are not welcome in the taxobox. This has been discussed repeatedly, and continuing to add them may well be considered disruptive editing. --Stemonitis (talk) 06:15, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Junrey Balawing
Hi there, I saw what you did to the birth date format in Junrey Balawing's article. There is an on going discussion request in this regard, as I am implying the first given example here. I was expecting that you're going to clarify first before you deleted as it was previously raised for discussion. Rammaum (talk) 16:21, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
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Mass undoing of edits
What reason do you have for your recent mass undoing of my edits? Your articles are so short that they add nothing that was not already apparent from the list on the genus page. They are ill-formatted, containing far too much taxonomic detail in the taxobox (as we have discussed before). They are also generally very poorly sourced. Inclusion of the species name in certain listings is no good evidence that a species is currently recognised as valid. For all these reasons, it is better to merge all the worthless substubs on Herina species to the genus' article. You must have known, both from our previous interactions and from common sense, that that kind of action would not be greeted with joy. It took me a fair amount of time and effort to clean up after you; making me do the same thing again is particularly unwelcome. --Stemonitis (talk) 06:26, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
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Housefly
Hi, On what basis do you assume that it is not a housefly? --Muhammad(talk) 06:41, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Diptera
Glad to see you are back! Keep up the good work! Ruigeroeland (talk) 09:56, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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March 2012
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Herina liturata, you may be blocked from editing. --Stemonitis (talk) 17:50, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Please do a significant amount of background research before proposing editors for user rights. The PERM pages are occasionally backlogged and unnecessary requests simply place an additional burden on the admins. Thanks, and happy editing! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk)
A cup of tea for you!
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Here is a well earned cup of tea for you. You have exhibited a high amount of compassion in respect of assisting other people on Wikipedia. Furthermore, you created several articles and made meaningful contributions to entomology pages. Keep up the outstanding work!!! 😺Galaxycat😺 talk 09:31, 22 September 2012 (UTC) |
Synonymy
Hi I see several of your Ulidiidae pages are duplicates.An instance is Herina palustris (Meigen, 1826) which also appears as Ortalis palustris Meigen, 1826 (on it's own page) though the synonymy is given in the Herina palustris taxobox. Maybe you could check these.I am not sure that redirect is the best course for such synonyms. Perhaps deletion of the invalid combinations would be better. The info content is, at least here, minimal.Can you add more? Notafly (talk) 07:05, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
- Nice to hear from you again. Ulidiidae are a mess, and not just on wikipedia, with some workers still counting Otitidae as a family. I had written many of the Ulidiidae pages with the hope of making at least a little sense of this group myself, and have written a prototype key to the UK species (not published), and that works OK just for UK. but trying to widen this to Europe one soon meets problems, with little consensus. However I will research the matter you mention. But I may not get to the entomology library until the latter part of October.Simuliid talk 08:36, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I am a new editor in the fly section. Can you see if I should use a common name in the article above? I think its widespread! Can you also see which one is correct Uramya pristis or Tachina basalis. The thing is is that Tachina basalis is not listed in Tachina genus! Many thanks in advance!--Mishae (talk) 17:32, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- Welcome - I need to look further, but Uramya pristis (of walker) looks correct?Simuliid talk 23:39, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- So Altervista is not a proper source? I'm confused now. Can you please make me one more favour? If its not hard, can you please not remove the navboxes from my or any other articles? The consensus had agreed on using them 2 months ago... Many thanks!--Mishae (talk) 01:15, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
- Another thing, on your user page you typed name 2 times, if you want, you can fix the error since I don't know how to do it.--Mishae (talk) 21:41, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
About Iberomorda viridipennis
Hi Simuliid. The ref you added appears to indicate that Étienne Mulsant was the binomial authority.
Please be aware that though I have 30 K Wikipedia edits and like to think of myself as a loyal servant of Wikipedia:WikiProject Insects, I have no scientific qualifications whatsoever! You're the expert, and more than happy to go with what you wrote.
--Shirt58 (talk) 10:05, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Date formats
You have recently made several potentially contentious edits (e.g. this), altering date formats, using the edit summary "Changed date re WP:DATEFORMAT". WP:DATEFORMAT makes it abundantly clear that both "November 29, 1762" and "29 November 1762" are acceptable everywhere. You must not make such edits. --Stemonitis (talk) 17:06, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
- I have replied to your message on my talk page. In short, you are wrong. --Stemonitis (talk) 21:50, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
- No very clearly you are wrong, These are not US persons. therefor Non US rules apply. There are many more parts of the globe where English it the primary language and the non US data formant is used, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, South Africa etc. I I would would argues to that as English is the primary 'international language'. There is such a thing as German English, as anyone who has tried to conduct cross border trade in the EC will know. please see MOS:TIES Simuliid talk 22:28, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Rollback Request
Hi. I've added the rollback flag for you. Any questions let me know. Pedro : Chat 13:39, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
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Category merging
Can you explain to me a reason behind a category merge here and in many other instances?--Mishae (talk) 06:58, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Fly articles
Hi, Simuliid. I have recently been removing empty |month=
parameters from cite templates since that parameter is now deprecated. The last remaining articles my searches find consist largely of fly genus or species articles that you started (there were about 80 in total). Many of these follow a similar format and use the same references (two in particular). Rather than just removing the deprecated parameter, I'm considering upgrading the references too. I wish to change:
- {{cite book|author=D'Assis Fonseca, E.C.M|year=1968 |title=Diptera Cyclorrhapha Calyptrata: Muscidae |pages=118|publisher=Royal Entomological Society of London|series= Handbooks for the Identification of British Insects|volume= 10|month=|location= London.}}
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- {{cite book |last=D'Assis Fonseca |first=E. C. M. |authorlink=E. C. M. d'Assis-Fonseca |date=January 31, 1968 |title=Diptera Cyclorrhapha Calyptrata: Section (b) Muscidae |series=Handbooks for the Identification of British Insects |publisher=Royal Entomological Society of London |location=London |isbn=0-901546-07-0 |volume=10 |page=118}}
and
- {{cite book|author=Gregor, F.; Rozkosny, R.; Bartak, M.; Vanhara, J.|year=2002 |title=The Muscidae (Diptera) of Central Europe|pages=280|publisher=Masaryk University|series= Scientiarum Naturalium Universitatis Masarykianae Brunensis|volume= 107|month=|location= Masaryk.}}
to
- {{cite journal |last1=Gregor |first1=František |last2=Rozkošný |first2=Rudolf |last3=Barták |first3=Miroslav |last4=Vaňhara |first4=Jaromír |date=2002 |title=The Muscidae (Diptera) of Central Europe |journal=Folia Facultatis Scientiarum Naturalium Universitatis Masarykianae Brunensis |publisher=Masaryk University |location=Brno, Czech Republic |isbn=80-210-2773-8 |volume=107 |page=280}}
These changes would modernize and correct these two references while adding more information. I am worried about the |page=
parameter however. This parameter (or |pages=
) are meant to specify the cited material as precisely as possible. It is not for the total number of pages. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you used the total number of pages in each source when you made these pages and not the page (or pages) that specifically support the statement being footnoted. This means we need to correct that. I started this by trying to verify the statement sourced with D'Assis Fonseca 1968 in the Villeneuvia article but I was unable to verify that sentence using the PDF of D'Assis Fonseca 1968 I found online; however, the PDF I found was a few pages incomplete. In general I am worried that this reference may have been used only as a very vague reference in all these fly articles. Footnoted statements should be very clearly supported by the source. In fact, when possible, it's best to use the |quote=
parameter to say exactly what statement in the source supports the statement in the Wikipedia article.
Could you clarify how these sources were used and, in particular, how the |page=
parameter was? Also, if you notice any problems in the upgraded cite templates above, please tell me. You can find many of these articles by using "insource:/\|\s*month\s*=\s*\|/ -incategory:Pages_containing_cite_templates_with_deprecated_parameters" as a search. Cheers, Jason Quinn (talk) 19:47, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Jason Quinn (talk) 19:47, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, Simuliid. I don't think you got a chance to see the message above but I see that you are editing again. (Happy New Year! by the way) In the new article you are creating, you are still incorrectly using some of the cite template parameters. The
|accessdate=
parameter should only be used if there is an associated|url=
parameter and|pages=
should not be used for the total number of pages and you should not add "pp" or anything like that because the template adds "p." or "pp." automatically. If don't know if you've turned them on or not, but many cite template errors are not visible by default. I think they should all be turned on by default but it's done for reader orientated purposes. For active editors like yourself, however, it's a good idea to turn them on so you can detect potential problems. You can follow the instructions at Help:CS1 errors#Controlling error message display to turn them on. Anyway, I'd like to help improve these fly articles with you. Let me know what you think about the above. Cheers, Jason Quinn (talk) 13:05, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Jason, Happy New Year too. Firstly thanks for the interest in what I have been doing on the Diptera articles, and for correcting any errors on my part. Firstly removing empty
|month=
, yes I no longer use that, and suspect any articles you needed to correct I eddied some time ago? Re the|page=
and|pages=
parameters. I am very aware of the differences, and misuse is a clear error on my part. Thank you for bringing this to my attention and I will try to be more careful with its use in future. I almost exclusively (intended) to use the|pages=
parameter, and where I have used the {{para|page} parameter, it is almost always in error, the only exception will be some references to Chandler's Checklists of Insects of the British Isles: Diptera, where someone else had been using the {{para|page} parameter correctly and I merely copied there usage. So in the Fonseca examples for gave, this should be cerrected to|pages=
. As for the "p." or "pp." and the point about the|accessdate=
associated with|url=
, I was not aware. Thanks for pointing these out, I will bear these in mind in future. Please keep up the good work.Simuliid talk 13:28, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Jason, Happy New Year too. Firstly thanks for the interest in what I have been doing on the Diptera articles, and for correcting any errors on my part. Firstly removing empty
Hi, Simuliid. Thanks for the reply. Yes, many of this articles were created a while ago (like back in 2009'ish). You can find the same list I am seeing by searching for "insource:/\|\s*month\s*=\s*\|/ -incategory:Pages_containing_cite_templates_with_deprecated_parameters" in the search box (should find about 62 items total with many of them fly articles). You say you "almost exclusively" intend to use the |pages=
parameter. If you mean general, I'm confused by that. Or do you mean solely for the two references above? For instance, could you explain what is on page 118 of the D'Assis Fonseca book? It appears to be part of the index and I am worried it is the total number of pages in the book, which is not what |pages=
is for. I would like to make sure the references are near perfect before going and changing about 70'ish or more in total. Cheers, Jason Quinn (talk) 11:28, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Simuliid- unless I am very much mistaken, there is no guideline preventing direct page citations as I used them in the above article, but there is a guideline against changing citation style without consensus. You have now been reverted by both me and Sasata- if you are sure that there is something wrong with the citations, could you please provide your reasons on the talk page rather than reverting again? J Milburn (talk) 12:04, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Could you please cite the precise guideline/MOS requirement you feel that mine and Sasata's preferred version of the article violates? There is no requirement to use particular citation templates. Two related points: Please be aware that is considered extremely poor etiquette to revert good faith edits without comment, and this is explicitly in violation of the behavioural guideline on the subject. Furthermore, you are close to violating the three revert rule. (See also the bold, revert, discuss cycle.) J Milburn (talk) 18:45, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- See also WP:CITESTYLE: "While citations should aim to provide the information listed above, Wikipedia does not have a single house style, though citations within any given article should follow a consistent style." J Milburn (talk) 18:50, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Category:Endangered species of the British Isles
Category:Endangered species of the British Isles, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. DexDor (talk) 05:39, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Need advice on the name of an article from expert in entomology
Hello Simuliid!
I've read you are an expert in entomology, so I was wondering if you can help me find out whether the name of Wikipedia article "Mordella brusteli" is correct? In Joe Hallan's Biology Catalog in the family Mordellidae I have not found the species "Mordella brusteli" but "Mediimorda brusteli" instead. A lot of the species in this family are called "Mordella ...". Some of them, however, according to Biology Catalog are called "Mediimorda ...", although they are in the same family. If the Biology Catalog is correct, there is a wrongly named article in the Spanish- and English-language Wikipedias: "Mordella brusteli", which should be named "Mediimorda brusteli". However, I am NOT an expert, so I'd like to know what you think. Thanks a lot! --Anna Mayerhof (talk) 14:22, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
Link to Joel Hallan's Biology Catalog
- You don't seem to have the time / energy ... to answer. No problem, just a note: I'm deleting this page from my watchlist. If you'd like to answer another time, please leave me a note on my talk page. Greetings--Anna Mayerhof (talk) 14:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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There is no need to change Carolus Linnaeus to Carl Linnaeus - please see Do not fix redirects. DuncanHill (talk) 20:30, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
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For linking from species to their binomial authorities. This is important and valuable work.
However: adding a bluelink is almost always not WP:MINOR, as you have marked many of your edits. I only mark as WP:MINOR edits which neither add nor change information and which are totally uncontroversial. I never mark a new bluelink as WP:MINOR; even if I'm merely putting [[]] around existing text. "Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if the edit concerns a single word, and it is improper to mark such an edit as minor". IMO that warning extends to fixing bad links to DAB or surname pages. Narky Blert (talk) 00:08, 1 March 2018 (UTC) |
Your edit to Hydrobia glyca
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I notice that when you recently edited the page Hydrobia glyca you made this change, which undid this edit done by User:William Avery Bot shortly beforehand.
I recently opened a discussion about automating the transfer of mollusc articles from "Animals described in ..." to "Molluscs described in..." categories at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Gastropods#Populating_the_"Molluscs_described_in_YYYY"_categories. The three editors who commented all seem quite keen on having a separate set of categories for gastropods (which hadn't previously crossed by mind), so I'm in the process of implementing that, and the edit you reversed was part of a trial of the bot task. Anyway, I thought you might have an opinion on the matter and, if so, make it known at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Gastropods#Populating_the_"Molluscs_described_in_YYYY"_categories or at WP:BRFA#William_Avery_Bot. Any input would be most welcome, and I certainly would not want to in any way alienate an editor as productive and knowledgeable as yourself. Thank you. William Avery (talk) 21:45, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Categories
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Ranks in taxonomy templates
Hi, it's always good to see more taxonomy templates constructed. Ranks in these templates must be the Latin form, otherwise some features don't work. See Wikipedia:Automated taxobox system/taxonomy templates#rank for a sortable table of possible values. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:58, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Euthiokimnia
Hi, I think this may be a spelling mistake? I was connecting recent species articles up on Wikidata and couldn't find this one. I looked at your source and it doesn't mention this genus in the index (although I didn't read through all of it) but there is a genus Ethiolimnia which we have a Wikidata page on and seems to have all the same listed species on the Swedish Wikipedia? Blythwood (talk) 22:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Page 16ff. of the source given has "Ethiolimnia" (related to Limnia) so this clearly is an error. Peter coxhead (talk) 22:52, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Many Thanks Peter. Well spotted, was misspelling (OCR Error) in a paper,Ethiolimnia is spelling elsewhere.Simuliid talk 23:26, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I thought of an OCR issue immediately. I'm not sure about the "Eth"→ "Euth", but "li" → "ki" and other combinations seems to be a common OCR issue. I think it's because in old manual typesetting the "i" is often very close to the preceding letter. Peter coxhead (talk) 12:06, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Many Thanks Peter. Well spotted, was misspelling (OCR Error) in a paper,Ethiolimnia is spelling elsewhere.Simuliid talk 23:26, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
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Is this by any chance a misspelling of Tetanoceroides? Blythwood (talk) 21:57, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Many Thanks Well spotted, it was a misspelling Simuliid talk 23:26, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
Wikilinking
Hey Simuliid, thanks for your edits on Odynerus spinipes. It appears to be a convention that you only need to link to a subject once in each article, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking, so you could be accused of "overlinking" with you edits, not that I would ever be so rude! Quetzal1964 (talk) 11:06, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Hi. Just so this is all clear; first, I apologize if I came across as hostile at any point regarding your challenging of the reclassification of Brachystomatinae. I had almost literally just finished a discussion with several taxonomist colleagues encouraging them to use their time in semi-quarantine to contribute to Wikipedia, and emphasizing to them that if their edits were supported by the literature, they could be confident that no one would revert their edits. Having a major set of edits challenged so soon after I made them put me into defensive mode in frustration, and I apologize for being a bit impatient. Second, I have just now added a section on the history of classification to the Brachystomatinae entry, to give a clearer explanation regarding the nature of the dispute, and I hope this is helpful. Third, I have re-read the various papers again, and I think the balance of the evidence does stand with the Wahlberg & Johanson analysis, at least regarding the putative monophyly of Empididae; the Sinclair & Cumming analysis left far too much of the phylogeny unresolved, and the Moulton & Wiegmann analysis still placed brachystomatines as sister to the remaining empidids, rather than as a clear outgroup. As such, 2 of the last 3 published phylogenies give no basis for excluding brachystomatines from Empididae. Until and unless a newer analysis with newer data is put forth, I think retaining the group within Empididae reflects the majority of published opinion. Peace, Dyanega (talk) 17:16, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
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The situation as it was ALWAYS stays as it is, so don't go for 3RR. The discussion was opened at Template Talk.
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Edit summaries
Please remember to use edit summaries, especially when making changes like [1] this one. Although you didn't remove any content, the size of the diff makes it look quite alarming when it pops up on recent changes and watchlists. An informative edit summary would have been helpful. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 15:39, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hello Simuliid,
You are welcome to continue adding "Carl Linnaeus" to the links to L., but it is unnecessary since there is a redirect. There are more important things to fix in the Wikipedia articles about plants described by Linnaeus. For example, Liparis loeselii (L.) Rich. is only a stub. Your help in expanding it would be greatly appreciated. (You may have noticed that all the other author names in the Liparis article, rely on redirects.) If you do find an author abbreviation lacking a redirect, please create the redirect. Gderrin (talk) 01:03, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, why do you waste your (and our) time with edits like this? When I clean up an article, this is the kind of stuff that I routinely remove. Nothing wrong with using a redirect, no need to pipe them to the target, the software does that automatically. --Randykitty (talk) 11:34, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for your feedback. I have always been aware of MOS:PIPE, MOS:NOPIPE. Reasons in some cases, both for or against are often clear. But most cases I come across, in my interpretation seem to sit half way? This was also backed as being correct, as when I added new content with a link to a redirect I would get a message from a bot, leading me to believe, that on balance, that links should mostly not be to redirect pages. With the exception of the principle of least astonishment. When I first started fixing some of the Linnaeus links, this was some time ago when his page was renamed so one would have redirects like Carl Linnaeus, when looking at L. I found many examples of Carl Linnaeus. I don't think the user would expect to see "(Redirected from L.)" when clicking on Carl Linnaeus? There was a help page saying "you don't have to" pipe links. But some editors took issue with me, as they read "you don't have to" to mean "you shouldn't". For me fixing there is an excuse to review pages and while pipping the links and fixing other things like here [2] I will take your comments on board. Simuliid talk 17:43, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
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Improper redirect
When you created a redirect from Stenotaenia to Senotainia, you neglected to check if the name was in use for any plant (or myriapod) taxon, which in fact, it is. A quick method of checking is to click on 'What links here' to see if there are any incoming links that are not congruent with your intended redirect. Also you did not include a sorting template, such as {{R from alternative scientific name|insect}}. Abductive (reasoning) 05:32, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
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- the Presidential Patton passes at 12:00 EST (17:UDT), as per constitution, not on taking the oath. See my last edit as 12:00!! PS I am Brit, I will have a cup of tea Simuliid talk 17:10, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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@Simuliid: I apologize for SDing this article, I had forgotten to read it was stub class. SoyokoAnis 01:02, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Taxonbar
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Redirect problem
Please fix Campiglossa hensanica, which you redirected to itself. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:29, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
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About Pollenia chotei - Family Calliphoridae or Polleniidae?
Hi Simuliid. Animal Diversity Web identifies P. chotei as of the family Calliphoridae not Polleniidae. Chances that ADW got that wrong? - I don't care to speculate about that. Chances that I got that wrong? [[List of mistakes made by Shirt58 aka Pete
- See Cerretti etal 2019 Reclustering the cluster flies (Diptera: Oestroidea, Polleniidae). Personally I don't trust ADW, itis, etc. In my field I find too many errors, miss-spelling, well known synonyms as valid names, incorrect taxa placement and slow to correct stuff, if it gets corrected at all.Simuliid talk 13:21, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Getting rid of list-defined references?
Hey, just curious what the point of this edit [3] was? I find using list-defined references (WP:LDR) keeps those citations in one central location for easier maintenance and avoids cluttering the text
. Seems like a WP:Cosmetic edit to change the established reference formatting of an article (WP:CITEVAR), but maybe I'm missing something. Umimmak (talk) 16:28, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
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- 100% agree. Please delete. Just a shame one can't do a redirect on a Category page as I wouldn't be surprised if it gets reinstated at some future time Simuliid talk 16:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Stray small tags
Thank you for creating so many species articles. It looks like you are using a boilerplate article outline to create them, and that text has a stray closing small tag that I have been removing from your articles. If you could find that stray tag in your boilerplate text and remove it before creating additional new articles, that would be helpful. Thanks! – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:19, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
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- And again. Please fix your template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:00, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- And again. Please fix your starting template or editing process. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:08, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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Taxonbar
Hello, I noted you have recently created a number of species articles (e.g. Brachyopa atlantea). You can add a {{taxonbar}} to provide relevant links to external taxonomic databases like I did with this edit. The template gets the information from Wikidata. I added the Wikidata ID, but this is not necessary as the template should be able to get it from the article page. If you add {{taxonbar}}
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- I don't especially have an issue either way, only the tools I have to add/edit author links and add references doesn't output as a Species list. I like to think not using them is slightly easier for new users to edit? So long as the author links and references stay, I am content if you want to change to species lists.Simuliid talk 18:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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Don't do it. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- If you feel this is a valid page, please discuss in the talk page Simuliid talk 08:41, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have no idea whether this is a valid page or not, but the speedy deletion tag is obviously incorrect and you are obviously edit-warring. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:46, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- No it not obviously incorrect, please explain. The page is about something that does not exist. If you think it is valid, then state why. If you feel it should be deleted by another method, please state which. Using language like"obviously edit-warring", and "Don't do it." are unhelpful and constitute bullying. If you disagree with me, or anyone else, be helpful and be nice.Simuliid talk 08:56, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- So edit-warring rather than reading the documentation of the tag you keep placing, which says in black and white "it does not apply to articles about albums (these may be covered by CSD A9), products, books, films, TV programs, software, or other creative works, nor to entire species of animals" (my emphasis), is being nice, is it? Phil Bridger (talk) 09:01, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have been reading the documentation. see Talk:Cephalia femoralis, thanks for the help there.Simuliid talk 09:10, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- So edit-warring rather than reading the documentation of the tag you keep placing, which says in black and white "it does not apply to articles about albums (these may be covered by CSD A9), products, books, films, TV programs, software, or other creative works, nor to entire species of animals" (my emphasis), is being nice, is it? Phil Bridger (talk) 09:01, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- No it not obviously incorrect, please explain. The page is about something that does not exist. If you think it is valid, then state why. If you feel it should be deleted by another method, please state which. Using language like"obviously edit-warring", and "Don't do it." are unhelpful and constitute bullying. If you disagree with me, or anyone else, be helpful and be nice.Simuliid talk 08:56, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have no idea whether this is a valid page or not, but the speedy deletion tag is obviously incorrect and you are obviously edit-warring. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:46, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Mass creation of stubs on flies
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Thank you, BilledMammal (talk) 14:59, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- No more so than normal - but for the most part, clearing up the mess that was here. Taxonomy on this group has changed radically in the last 20 years, but the pages here do not reflect that. Simuliid talk 15:07, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- I've noticed that, such as your improvements at Pipunculinae; thank you.
- However, I've also noticed that you have been mass creating short, similar articles on such flies and I am not certain there would be a community consensus for such actions - it is possible that the community would prefer the flies to be grouped together.
- Personally, I believe that such an editorial decision would benefit the reader by making it easier for them to access information, and make it easier to maintain such articles if the taxonomy changes again in the future. BilledMammal (talk) 15:15, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your thoughts. Generally, I don't like to create too many short articles. Like the mess that Qbugbot has mad with 1000s of North American Diptera pages, mostly with unreliable sources, misspellings, listing synonyms as valid species, and using references that don't mention the species concerned. I spend most of my time here correcting and enlarging, and adding better references to those pages. It's nice to see he/she has not touched Pipunculidae. What I hope for, is that they don't stay short or similar for very long, as has happened with many pages I started on higher Diptera. One thing I am doing here with Pipunculidae is make sure there is a page for all the British species, as I know there are other UK editors that do "Fly Stuff" that will expand on then.Simuliid talk 15:39, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
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Could you please explain undoing the changes to this page? Simuliid talk 21:10, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, thanks for your work; but please stop linking commonly known country-names. Tony (talk) 11:23, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
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- Many thanks Simuliid talk 17:16, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
PLEASE stop overlinking
I see country-names like "United States" linked in your articles. Please stop doing this, and you'll save me from unlinking every article your create. Tony (talk) 23:48, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Should you be unlinking these?? Simuliid talk 07:56, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
PLEASE TAKE NOTE
I've already asked you, above, NOT to link common terms like "United States". You are STILL doing it. This causes other editors extra work.
STOP DOING IT. Tony (talk) 11:07, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes I am still doing it. Please stop bullying me please Simuliid talk 18:15, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- DO NOT CONTINUE THIS BEHAVIOUR. SEE WP:OVERLINK. This will not end well if you take no notice.Tony (talk) 10:16, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- Good morning, I hope you are well?
- I will not considered taking any notice of you wile you address me in such a rude and aggressive manor, and making threats.
- It not for you, me, or any other editor to boss and order another contributor, or say what they should or should not be doing.
- We can however, help, guide and advise advise each other to all become better editors. But wikipedia's policies are very clear: we must be civil and nice to each other, and forgiving of people who make errors, some thing we all do from time to time.
- If you want to guild someone, start with linking to wikipedia's policies and guides and the matter. But expect there may be a contrary view and sometimes there are contradictions in polices, and even if not, there can a matter of personal opinion.
- Sir. can I please ask that in future you address me with civility, and engage in polite two way debate.
- See: Wikipedia:Advice for hotheads Simuliid talk 10:44, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- 100% correct. Failing to adhere to the MoS is not disruptive behaviour. William Avery (talk) 21:29, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you Simuliid talk 22:31, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- Maybe it would help if you either took some advice or explained clearly how it was wrong rather than ignoring it. Advising is not bullying. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:35, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you Phil for your welcome input.
- "PLEASE TAKE NOTE". "STOP DOING IT", "Please" when highlighted in bold is a command, not a polite address. putting orders in all caps. Its open to interpretation of course. But to me, it looks very much like bulling. The tone is defiantly not "Advising"!
- I like your comment "explained clearly how it was wrong". this is also what really upset me about Tony's communications. I wanted him too 'explain clearly how it was wrong'. and not just tell me off. He has finally mentioned WP:OVERLINK. The should have been polity mention in his very first contact with me. I did search for help on the subject. but finding Wiki's policies is often not easy. I found nothing especially helpful.
- We need to all be nice to each over. I know the way a few editors scold new wikipedians stops them from contributing again. My partner being one of them. That is a great loss for the community when we loose these people.
- You thoughts are welcome. Simuliid talk 22:56, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- 100% correct. Failing to adhere to the MoS is not disruptive behaviour. William Avery (talk) 21:29, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- DO NOT CONTINUE THIS BEHAVIOUR. SEE WP:OVERLINK. This will not end well if you take no notice.Tony (talk) 10:16, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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Please use the most specific categories available, rather than more general categories
Hi. For the most part, as a long-time editor of insect articles, I find your edits to be very helpful and constructive, but you are going against policy by generalizing existing categories instead of keeping them as precise as possible. Asiloidea is much more precise than Brachycera, and all the genera in Asiloidea should be in the appropriate category, not labeled as Brachyceran genera. I don't think you would agree that the best category for all of these would be as "insect genera". While they are insect genera, that's not the most precise available category. "Category:Asiloidea genera" is the most precise existing category, and that's where they belong. I spent a lot of time today fixing those entries, and you've blanket reverted them and that's rather impolite and - as I said - against best practice. I would be appreciative if you would please revert them all back to Asiloidea genera, rather than engaging in an edit war. Thanks. Dyanega (talk) 20:09, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hello. Thanks for your interest, and thanks for the praise too. Having "precise categories" as you call them, is discouraged. as about 10 ten years ago, these insect categories became ultra precise, to point it was just getting silly with 100s of categories almost resembling a taxonomic tree. I was heavenly guilty of creating many of them. If nothing else it became a maintenance headache too. These were mostly wound back to have categories with numbers of members in the 500 - 2500 range. An "insect genera" category would go well over that limit. Simuliid talk 20:23, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- By that criterion, you have just provided a very strong argument against the use of "Category:Brachycera genera" and for the use of "Category:Asiloidea genera" for the Mydidae (and most other asiloids). There are considerably more than 2500 genera in Brachycera, and well more than 1000 genera in Asiloidea. Just the family Asilidae alone has nearly 600 genera, and Bombyliidae nearly 300. That means that "Category:Asiloidea genera" is (in principle) exactly the right size for a category, by your explicit standard, while "Category:Brachycera genera" would be much too big if it contained all brachycerans. Bear in mind that the only reason the "Category:Brachycera genera" is presently not overwhelmingly huge is because other editors have taken the time and trouble to parse out the genera into more precise subcategories. I assume you would not advocate, for example, to go to all of the >500 genera of Asilidae and change their category from "Category:Asilidae genera" to "Category:Brachycera genera", and likewise for all the Bombyliidae? There is a good, and logical, reason for parsing into more precise categories, expressly to keep the general categories from becoming impossible to navigate. In fact, ideally, the broadest categories of all (like "insect genera") should have the fewest entries, if editors are doing what they should be. Case in point: "Category:Diptera genera" contains ZERO articles. That's absolutely fine. On the other hand, "Category:Brachycera genera" contains almost 1000 genera right now, many of which could be placed into existing subcategories to reduce the clutter, so that's not fine. Yes, "Category:Asiloidea genera" is a lot smaller than it could be, but it is precisely because the genera in the families Asilidae and Bombyliidae have their own categories, and that's as it should be. It is a balancing act, and "Category:Asiloidea genera" would, if fully populated, be a good and appropriately-sized category, even without asilids and bombyliids. It won't ever be properly populated if you remove things presently in that category and blank it out. Please reconsider. If you'd like to bring this general topic of category hierarchies and category size to a broader audience of editors, to see which viewpoint is closer to consensus, I'd be happy to get that discussion rolling. Dyanega (talk) 21:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
I went ahead and raised this topic, as politely and objectively as I could, over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life, which is where most of the discussions take place regarding policies that apply to taxonomic articles in Wikipedia. Briefly, the consensus there seems to be more specific categorization is better, under MOST circumstances. You can go there and see some of the comments yourself, but I can also quote some that seemed especially significant: "WP:CATSPECIFIC and WP:CATDD explicitly state that articles should go in the most specific category to which they are relevant. Templates like {{diffuse}} and {{catimprove}} also encourage being specific. If the more specific category exists, then the articles should not be moved to its parent. It can be disputed whether the more specific category should exist. For that, see Wikipedia:Overcategorization. If the editor you mention thinks the more specific taxonomy-related categories shouldn't exist because of one of the reasons listed there, then they should nominate that category for discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion rather than moving articles into a parent category. (The criterion most likely to be relevant would be WP:SMALLCAT, but that doesn't provide an arbitrary size quota and the description of "small" is "a few members
"; hundreds of pages isn't "a few". Even if it were a few, it also explicitly states "this criterion does not preclude all small categories
"" "For plants, WP:WikiProject Plants/Categorization#Taxonomic categories says "categorize an article at the highest taxonomic rank which yields a 'sensible' set of category sizes (say 10-100 entries)". It seems to me to be good advice for all groups." "I think I've come across guidance somewhere that suggested splitting categories when there is a logical way to do so and displaying the members takes multiple pages (i.e., 200+ members). I haven't seen guidance suggesting that 500 members is a minimum."
The points that everyone there seem to be making are (1) that there is no arbitrary favored size, and to the extent there is, it is a lot smaller than what you suggested. As such, the "Asiloidea genera" category really is perfectly acceptable if it contains between 100-200 entries, as it is likely to do after Asilidae and Bombyliidae are removed. Just Mydidae is 65 genera, and Therevidae and Acroceridae are also fairly large. (2) Where guidelines DO exist, they all state that if one is CHOOSING between different existing categories that are hierarchical, then the narrower category is preferred. Both of these points are as close to actual policy as there is, and both suggest that the genera of Mydidae should be listed as Asiloidea genera rather than Brachycera genera, because Asiloidea genera is the most specific existing category into which they can be placed, and there are dozens of included genera so the category is an ideal size. All of the genera in Asilidae should be listed as "Asilidae genera", and all of the bombyliid genera should be in "Bombyliidae genera". That gives the best balance of category sizes and inclusiveness. Thanks. Dyanega (talk) 22:21, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- There would be no point going to the level of Asilidae genera for example, as there are list pages for these. . All families have their own category - why clutter this with say Asilidae subfamilies, Asilidae tribes Asilidae genera etc. So why not take this argument to it logical conclusion, and have just have a category for every genus? Good luck maintaining that!
- I am sorry, I simply do not agree. What you are proposing is clutter. Simuliid talk 05:27, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Poole & Gentili
Hi. You are apparently unaware of something EXTREMELY important. The Nomina Insecta Nearctica, by Poole & Gentili, ARBITRARILY synonymized every subspecies of every insect in North America simply for editorial convenience. They actively disclaimed their "synonymies" in the introduction to the work, and none of the new "synonymies" that appeared in that work were actual formal synonymies recognized by subsequent taxonomists. That work absolutely cannot be used as a reliable source for ANY taxonomic or nomenclatural information, accordingly. It is jam-packed with typos and other assorted errors, the errata filling several pages of text. Please, PLEASE do not refer to that work as a source, ever. Thanks, Dyanega (talk) 14:50, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you :-) Simuliid talk 14:52, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
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About Microsoma vicinum - that eminent entomologist, Professor Google, tells us that Microsoma vicinum has only two "G-hits", both of them en.wp articles
About Microsoma vicinum - that eminent entomologist, Professor Google, tells us that "Microsoma vicinum" has only two "G-hits", those being Microsoma and Microsoma vicinum. The University of Guelph reference there contains no mention of a M. vicinum or its possibly various synonyms. Is this possibly a typo? Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:03, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
- Microsoma vicinum Is on page 95 of O'Hara, J.E., Henderson, S.J. & Wood, D.M. 2020, it's also on page 119 of "Description de nouveaux tachinaires de l’Ancien Monde, et notes synonymiques (Diptera, Tachinidae)" Simuliid talk 10:22, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
Rhaphiomidas
Hi. You seem to be unaware that the Nomina Insecta Nearctica (by Poole & Gentili) says, in its introduction, that it refuses to recognize subspecies. They revised nothing, provided no formal taxonomic statements, they simply and arbitrarily deleted every subspecies of every insect in North America. For the present treatment of the genus, please read the linked revision by Van Dam (2010), in which acton has three subspecies. I assure you, with all earnestness, that Rhaphiomidas acton has three subspecies, recognized by all workers on the genus. Poole & Gentili is NOT a reliable source for any taxonomic information, as it is not - and was never intended to be - a taxonomic treatment. It is a list, and very badly-compiled one at that. I would very much appreciate it if, instead of engaing in an edit war, you would read the Van Dam revision, and restore the version of the R. acton article that correctly indicates there are three subspecies. Thanks. Dyanega (talk) 21:15, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- I don't use Nomina Insecta Nearctica. I am happy if you restore the subspecies. Likewise, I only tidied the page and added better references, and removed generic ones. Personally, I don't see including subspecies as useful on the whole. Often they are not recognised by many authors, are often doubtful, or will be elevated to full species on subsequent revisions. But the Van Dam revision looks OK. Don't need to revert the page, just add the subspecies back in. Simuliid talk 08:56, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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Ambiguous page ranges
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, doesn't help either. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 19:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)- Thanks. If you can recommend a way of doing this better, please help me, I have searched high and low for the "proper" way to do this, and have had to settle on what just worked. A comma seems the logical way, but will give an error. Simuliid talk 23:04, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Thanks. If you can recommend a way of doing this better, please help me, I have searched high and low for the "proper" way to do this, and have had to settle on what just worked. A comma seems the logical way, but will give an error. Simuliid talk 23:04, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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See the history... your move was previously reverted. No "O" is more common. Please re-revert yourself. If you want the "O" naming, open a formal WP:RM. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:28, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Additionally, copy-paste is not the way we move articles. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:29, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- What has "No "O" is more common" got to do with anything? I only interested in what is correct. Simuliid talk 18:40, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- You already know both are correct. WP:COMMONNAME says that we use the more common name when multiple correct names are possible. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:42, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- No! Not correct, ICZN rules apply here on Wikipedia too. Cyrtophleba IS NOT correct. Please use the accepted scientific name. Not the name that is used on "popular" but incorrect or out of date sites. Please take this up with an admin if you don't agree Simuliid talk 18:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- I am an admin. Take it to WP:RM. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:55, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- As far as correctness, look at the multiple references on the Cyrtophleba article. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:58, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- As far as correctness, Simuliid is absolutely correct. Rondani selected Cyrtophloeba, acting as First Reviser under ICZN Article 24.2.4, and no other spelling can ever be used as valid. This is a scientific name, not a common name, so the only applicable rules are in the ICZN; speaking as a Commissioner, therefore, this is a non-debate, and the article needs to be moved to the correct spelling. Just because different references disagree is meaningless; only the ICZN matters - see [4] for the treatment in the definitive world list of all fly names, managed by an ICZN Commissioner. Dyanega (talk) 19:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- That's not how Wikipedia works. We aren't beholden to the ICZN. We wait until the change is accepted in third-party sources; it has not, as evidenced by no more recent publication using the name. As I've said, take the matter to WP:RM. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- What? I have quoted those third-party sources. You are ignoring them. Simuliid talk 19:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- That's not how Wikipedia works. We aren't beholden to the ICZN. We wait until the change is accepted in third-party sources; it has not, as evidenced by no more recent publication using the name. As I've said, take the matter to WP:RM. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- As far as correctness, Simuliid is absolutely correct. Rondani selected Cyrtophloeba, acting as First Reviser under ICZN Article 24.2.4, and no other spelling can ever be used as valid. This is a scientific name, not a common name, so the only applicable rules are in the ICZN; speaking as a Commissioner, therefore, this is a non-debate, and the article needs to be moved to the correct spelling. Just because different references disagree is meaningless; only the ICZN matters - see [4] for the treatment in the definitive world list of all fly names, managed by an ICZN Commissioner. Dyanega (talk) 19:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- No! Not correct, ICZN rules apply here on Wikipedia too. Cyrtophleba IS NOT correct. Please use the accepted scientific name. Not the name that is used on "popular" but incorrect or out of date sites. Please take this up with an admin if you don't agree Simuliid talk 18:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- You already know both are correct. WP:COMMONNAME says that we use the more common name when multiple correct names are possible. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:42, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- What has "No "O" is more common" got to do with anything? I only interested in what is correct. Simuliid talk 18:40, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Species/genus stub categories
I was wondering why earlier this month, on articles such as Argyromima and Bahrettinia, you replaced {{Dexiinae-stub}} with {{Tachinidae-stub}}. The more specific a stub category can be, the better, as it helps with categorisation. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 15:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Just making sure you've seen this, as I'd like to get your side before I revert any edits. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 02:41, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Dude, seriously. "Napomyza elegans" - Distribution - Germany? From what I can see here , N. elegans has a distribution mostly in Scandinavia. --Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 11:49, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Type locality is Aachen, that's in Germany. If you have good references to other localities, please add these and cite them. I don't doubt it's found elsewhere at all. But most my Agromyzidae books are not to hand, as I have moved house. I can add more when they are out of storage.
- Don't call me Dude please, Even though I am a fan of the Big Lebowski :-)
- Thanks for the input Simuliid (talk) 18:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC)Simuliid
- What about my original concern? Stub sorting is an important part of categorisation, and I'd really like your input on why you decided to revert my stub sorting. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 13:09, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- And I. ischyri distribution is only in Cuba? That may well be where its holotype was was from, but GBIF tells us that Coquillett says it is "A new dexiid parasite of a Cuban beetle". Presumably I. ischyri didn't limit itself to that one Caribbean island, as they toured North America in 1964 and wore cuban heels and... oh, wait on a while. Beetle and Beatle. Surely a common misunderstanding, I guess. --Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- What about my original concern? Stub sorting is an important part of categorisation, and I'd really like your input on why you decided to revert my stub sorting. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 13:09, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Dude, seriously. "Napomyza elegans" - Distribution - Germany? From what I can see here , N. elegans has a distribution mostly in Scandinavia. --Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 11:49, 29 March 2024 (UTC)