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I don't believe one of the facts presented in this article is accurate. The article states that "Toole stated to many people that he had murdered Adam, he even wrote to his father and offered to show him where he buried the body for a cash reward." If I am not mistaken, didn't this offer turn out to be a hoax by someone falsely claiming to be Ottis Toole..

I agree, for example, almost everything said about his childhood sounded like random cliches from horror films. I suppose some "victims rights" advocate chose to make assumptions and put them on a wiki. How unoriginal. 68.107.196.211 21:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody seen Death Diploma or his A&E biography on youtube ? It has ALOT of information on his early life. That his father left when he was really young, his mother claimed she couldn't handle him and he himself claimed in Death Diploma that his first job was being a street hustler, i'd do it myself by i really suck at writing/editing ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.22.94.128 (talk) 02:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"In 1976, Toole met Henry Lee Lucas while working in a bakers asshole in Jacksonville". I doubt he met anyone in a bakers asshole. Please change this

Biography

The first lines of the Biography section on this page need to be cleaned up and/or rewritten, as it looks like random trivia facts. Someone more familiar with editing this article should probably fix it up properly, as I know nothing about Ottis Toole. Kohkoa 04:22, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Place of Birth

The article says that Toole was from Saskatchewan, but the summary says he was born in Jacksonville, Florida. I have corrected this. --The Four Deuces 23:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Park Journee Estep

Whats with Park Journee Estep being in this article? I read it over and it doesn't seem to mention Ottis Toole in any way so why is it here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.244.196.188 (talk) 10:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree-- this section is extremely confusing! It seems to bring in Estep as a person accused of a crime for which Toole tried to take credit, but needs to be re-written to introduce that idea MUCH more clearly! The whole section is out of place as it is.

Agreed.I'm removing it.207.237.232.74 (talk) 00:50, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gay or not Gay?

This article claims that Toole was involved "romantically" with Henery Lee, however when you read the information provided by Wikipedia about Henry Lee it states NOTHING of the sort! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.139.216.187 (talk) 21:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Incredible Statements Need More Reliable Sources

The Whole article comes across as a tabloid piece and completely unbelievable... The statements about his grandmother being a "Satanist" who dug up bodies to use in rituals needs to be revised as well as any notions that he was "gay". Those portions cite an article written by a woman who is best known for her critique of Anne Rice Novels and the Horror Genre ( http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/about/authors/ramsland/index.html ). It has no credibility whatsoever. TruTV isn't even a real source, is it? Isn't it a hack-type tabloid show? Furthermore, Satanists don't ACTUALLY worship Satan... but that's another topic altogether. 98.211.129.152 (talk) 22:57, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tru TV (nee CourtTV) is about as reliable as you'll find for criminal stories. Randall Bart Talk 07:39, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Crime Library is a reliable source; however, most of its articles have a bibliography, so information should be pulled from those sources, if possible. momoricks (make my day) 09:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's always better to go to primary sources. Unfortunately, the statements in these secondary/tertiary articles (some are nearly transcripts of the shows) don't have footnotes. The larger the bibliography, the harder it may be to hunt down a source. For any famous scandal there is at least one book that is complete crap. If a crap source appears in the bibliography (and that sometimes happens), then there is need for further review. Randall Bart Talk 00:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

Today I have been hearing "Ottis" pronounced like "glottis". Isn't it pronounced like "Otis"? Randall Bart Talk 07:39, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John Walsh says it like "glottis", so I shall defer to his expertise in this matter. Randall Bart Talk 23:36, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::Yes, [[Crime Library]] is a reliable source; however, most of its articles have a bibliography, so information should be pulled from those sources, if possible. <font face="constantia">[[User:Momoricks|'''<font color="#4B0082">momoricks</font>''']] [[User Talk:Momoricks|'''<font color="#FF00CC">(make my day)</font>''']]</font> 09:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
+:::It's always better to go to primary sources.  Unfortunately, the statements in these secondary/tertiary articles (some are nearly transcripts of the shows) don't have footnotes.  The larger the bibliography, the harder it may be to hunt down a source.  For any famous scandal there is at least one book that is complete crap.  If a crap source appears in the bibliography (and that sometimes happens), then there is need for further review.  '''[[User:Barticus88|<span style='color:#ffffff; background:#55CC44'> &nbsp;Randall Bart&nbsp; </span>]][[User talk:Barticus88|<span style='color:#ffffff; background:#CC7766'> &nbsp;Talk&nbsp; </span>]]''' 00:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
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