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A fact from Triple parentheses appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 June 2016 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that triple parentheses have been used on Twitter to signify targets for antisemitic harassment?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2016/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Triple parentheses.

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Redirects - are there any?

I've created (((Echoes))), do we need others? Doug Weller talk 18:14, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Doug Weller In the UK at least, this punctuation is called a bracket. Although this is a predominantly US trend, the name "triple brackets" is used in reliable sources '''tAD''' (talk) 18:36, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Weller and The Almightey Drill: I created (((echo))) and Triple brackets. — Gorthian (talk) 19:59, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I also added an entry at Echo (disambiguation). — Gorthian (talk) 20:07, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Doug Weller talk 20:25, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Creator

Why is does the article not mention the ((()))'s creator Morrakiu?

This man deserves his own wikipedia article.

https://www.youtube.com/user/Morrakiu/videos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.231.247.123 (talk) 23:08, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

IP: You can not possibly justify a Wikipedia article for every person or group with a YouTube channel. Do third-party sources talk about this man? '''tAD''' (talk) 11:38, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Create request

I would like to make a formal request to redirect ((())) → Triple parentheses, but the page is currently blacklisted. It would make sense if it redirected here. — Confession0791 ^talk 00:15, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Confession0791, you need to take your request to the Administrators' Noticeboard. — Gorthian (talk) 00:43, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:53, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

British English Terminology

Parentheses are known as Brackets in the UK. Perhaps this could be noted in the article 86.135.11.73 (talk) 11:09, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done — Gorthian (talk) 18:05, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reappropriation

Why no discussion of the reappropriation of the (((echo)))? I added this but it was deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:646:2:337E:80A1:FEA9:FFC3:1C6B (talk) 21:36, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's already there, in the third sentence of the "Response" section. — Gorthian (talk) 21:53, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not notable

WP:NOT#KNOWYOURMEME, seriously. 74.12.94.10 (talk) 07:58, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The New York Times, CNN, The Guardian, ADL, etc. seem perfectly adequate here. Grayfell (talk) 08:04, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. This was all over the mainstream media for weeks, and passes WP:GNG easily. -- The Anome (talk) 08:26, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

i don't think the mainstream media has any metaphorical horse in this race. why would the mainstream media care about jews unless you're trying to make some implication about a conspiracy theory? 75.98.102.138 (talk) 21:46, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected

Given the recent intensive flurry of vandalism, I have semi-protected this article for a ten-day period. Neutrality^talk 03:46, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jargon

The word "markup" is a computer term, but its use here to describe extra parentheses is jargon, or slang, which makes the writing seem childish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.120.133 (talk) 15:51, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It would probably be more correct to use "notation" instead of markup. — Strongjam (talk) 16:21, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lead's implication that Trump supporters are antisemitic

The last sentence of the lead paragraph currently reads:

"The triple parentheses have been adopted as an online stigma by antisemites, neo-Nazis, and white nationalists to identify individuals of Jewish background as targets for online harassment, such as Jewish journalists critical of Donald Trump, Republican Party winner of the 2016 U.S. presidential election."

Yes, the statement is supported by the sources. But is it really necessary to single this out as an example? Of everything that could follow "such as" in this sentence, we seem to be picking the one thing that's asking for the most trouble. Looking at the edit history, it's already been removed multiple times. Of course, it's no secret that there's a significant faction of white nationalists, antisemites, what-have-you among Trump supporters. But the large majority are not. Surely I'm not the only one who sees a potential NPOV issue here. Lizard (talk) 04:00, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, looking into more of the sources, I've had a change of heart and am starting to think it may be justifiable. Lizard (talk) 04:21, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Trump is used as a reference no less than 4 times in this one short article. This looks a little biased. Isnt it enough to merely state once that it is being used online against critics of Trump? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.196.218.110 (talk) 17:31, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reappropriation

Review appropriation. Triple parentheses are being used for other meanings as of recent. The current meaning should be considered as "Alternate uses" where as the new meaning should be moved into "Use". Atherial (talk) 17:01, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Atherial: Do you have any sources we can cite? — Gorthian (talk) 18:58, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

TRS

The TRS Lexicon is cited as the source of a direct quote, but the link is dead, so I added an archive link, but it was reverted. That makes no sense. Either it should be included, or the entire quote should be removed. Benjamin (talk) 11:43, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I misunderstood the edit. It should still be removed though. There is no need for us to use the primary source here. — Strongjam (talk) 14:06, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Benjamin (talk) 15:07, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's WP policy to base articles on reliable published secondary sources. The primary source didn't add anything except a quote mocking the Holocaust, everything else could be sourced from the secondary source. — Strongjam (talk) 15:29, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a secondary source that contains the quote? Do you think it's relevant to understanding the cultural context of why this symbol is used in the alt right? Benjamin (talk) 15:31, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any secondary source for the quote, and I don't think it really adds anything. The article already makes it clear that it's an antisemitic blog. —Strongjam (talk) 16:07, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know whether a set of "TRS Lexicon flashcards" on Quizlet would qualify as a reasonable secondary source for the TRS Lexicon?--Quisqualis (talk) 04:04, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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 :The New York Times, CNN, The Guardian, ADL, etc. seem perfectly adequate here. [[User:Grayfell|Grayfell]] ([[User talk:Grayfell|talk]]) 08:04, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 ::Indeed. This was all over the mainstream media for weeks, and passes [[WP:GNG]] easily. -- [[User:The Anome|The Anome]] ([[User talk:The Anome|talk]]) 08:26, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
+:::i don't think the mainstream media has any metaphorical horse in this race. why would the mainstream media care about jews unless you're trying to make some implication about a conspiracy theory? [[Special:Contributions/75.98.102.138|75.98.102.138]] ([[User talk:75.98.102.138|talk]]) 21:46, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 == Semi-protected ==