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David Bowie

Was the Count based off of David Bowie? There is a distinctive physical resemblence (especially the lazy eye), and their singing voices are similar as well. And Bowie was topping the charts when the Count made his debut... hmm. UndeniablyJordan 15:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Naah, can't be, as David Bowie is British and Sesame Street is a US show... Seriously though: this might just be a coincidence. Bowie was way up in the charts routinely since about the end of the 60s. If, on the other hand, you know some authoritative sources backing your supposition, this really should be in the article, together with the relevant citations.--GrafZahl 09:16, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

of vs von

why von and not of? I only ever heard of... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.155.79.172 (talk) 21:55, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fan club

The following text was added by anon:

  • The count's only known active fanclub today is located in Jerusalem, Israel in the school of Leyada. The club has different activities such as counting and worshiping the count.

I'm deleting it from the article because the information is hard to verify. Especially that the fan club should be the only known active seems somewhat dubious to me. Nevertheless, if Count fan clubs are for real, it should get a mention, I think.--GrafZahl 08:44, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mental Disorders sentence

That mental disorders paragraph (currently the second paragraph) has gotta' be bunk, if not vandalism. Anyone want to source it? If no one responds I'm gonna' delete it after a while. --Mrcolj 22:43, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably more like Original Research, if anything. It'd be interesting if a source could be found, though. Powers 02:32, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

I am really not liking this picture. Would it really be that hard to get a screenshot of The Count, rather than a person dressed up as him with a fan. I'm not critising the photo, I just think one of him on Seasame Street would suit the article better.

I'll look for a screenshot and change the pic. Any objections? --Rachel Cakes 06:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously, this never happened. But I agree. Ideally we should have a pic of the actual puppet. I'm going to see if I can fix this. - It doesn't stick. (talk) 18:27, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I'm going to have to read-up on uploading pix to Wikipedia as I've not done that before. If it proves to be too big a PITA, I might take a pass on it for now, but upon looking at the current pic's details I see that it is incorrectly labeled as Public Domain (it isn't). Better we find something suitable for Fair use. --- It doesn't stick. (talk) 18:37, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Jacobson as Count ?

I think Eric Jacobson should take over as Count, when Jerry leaves Sesame Street. Why ? Because I want him performing more than just Frank's characters (if you heard his Guy Smiley, i'm sure you'd agree). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.229.57.239 (talk • contribs) .

If anything Matt Vogel should take over that character. -- 173.76.121.93 (talk) 21:38, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And apparently, Matt Vogel did get the character!! He sounds exactly like Jerry Nelson!! -- 134.241.28.252 (talk) 15:00, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube

There should be some mention of the various 'parody' videos of The Count that have surfaced on youtube that show The Count's words 'censored', most notably the "Song of the Count censored" video by Lemon Demon.

Anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.191.144.220 (talk) 08:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, in actual F.A.C.T. I wish to dispute the notability of this video, especially in the context of what ought to be an encyclopaedic description of the character in question. AS the citation of youtube videos is a dubious and uncertain question anyway, I will remove this passage from the page until a consensus opinion deems it appropriate. (95.144.79.29 (talk) 20:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Although I know many people who are aware of the video in question we do need more quantifiable proof of its notability. But that video is AMAZING!!! Thetictocmonkey 13:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's no different from Youtube Downfall parody videos being mentioned on the page about The Downfall —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.105.26 (talk) 18:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References in Popular Culture

This section keeps getting disproportionately longer, bizarre, and obscure; not to mention entirely uncited and unverifiable. I think some sort of guidelines need to be established as to what is appropriate (what constitutes popular culture? must it be cited? considering there are thousands of Sesame Street parodies, do they all go here?). Thoughts, please? -Sme3 (talk) 12:34, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Association with vampire folklore

I was just reading the vampire article here on Wikipedia and found the following:

Other methods commonly practised in Europe included... placing poppy seeds, millet, or sand on the ground at the grave site of a presumed vampire; this was intended to keep the vampire occupied all night by counting the fallen grains. Similar Chinese narratives state that if a vampire-like being came across a sack of rice, it would have to count every grain; this is a theme encountered in myths from the Indian subcontinent as well as in South American tales of witches and other sorts of evil or mischievous spirits or beings.

Would this information (which is cited in the vampire article) be relevant to this article? No signature (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's certainly a bit of interesting information; but is there any evidence that Norman Stiles and/or Jim Henson had this in mind when the character was created? It could just be a strange coincidence. There might be a way to work it into the article, but you'd need to carefully state how it is relevant. -Sme3 (talk) 00:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why should there be evidence that this was intended? I think this "coincidence" is interesting. More importantly, this amazing connection between Count von Count and vampiric legend is fact. Artist intent is hardly ever regarded as important, meaning can be found whether the artist was aware or not.
As for the relevance, it is no more or less relevant than the "reflection in mirrors" remark, or the accent, or the cape, or any other measure of vampirocity. Sam Coskey (talk) 18:23, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
When the above comment was written, the section on "Influences and resemblances" had not yet been added. The article includes this information now, and is presented as a similarity (and possible coincidence) between Count von Count and other vampires -- as is the reflection part, etc. I think the article is fine as it is, don't you? -Sme3 (talk) 19:15, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Any image?

As mentioned in a previous review the picture had to be deleted because it was not a screenshot and so far there has not been another image added at all. There has got to be thousands out there so I think one should be put up soon. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 03:04, 4 May 2010 (UTC).[reply]

It's just a shame, that's all

I think that the article would be greatly improved if the TOC read:

  1. Description
  2. History and evolution of the character on Sesame Street
  3. Influences and resemblances

    AH AH AH AH AH!

  4. Internationally
  5. Appearances outside of Sesame Street
  6. In popular culture
  7. Notes and references
  8. External links

    AH AH AH AH AH!

... but reluctantly accept that this will never happen. 82.6.102.118 (talk) 03:09, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that would be beautiful but, you're right, it'll never happen.
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