User talk:EdJohnston

Why deleting Hungarian contributions?

Lengthy discussion about Magyarization and the neutrality of our articles about Hungarian history. EdJohnston (talk) 18:32, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Hi, you banned me 2 days ago based on one guys complaint, who does not know how to post a comment (look at his empty comment page, where he messaged me, without writing who and whenn), and did no contribution to wikipedia, besides of deleting comments he do not likes. You can follow our discussion here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Radezic. Besides this he lied that I deleted his contribution on the Magyarization, about that Latin was the official language of Hungary between 1000 and 1844. You can check for yourself that this is a lie! So, he based on this lie, wanted a revenge on me, and started to delete my posts. I did not know that it is in wikipedia's to delete others contributions because of revenge... This is why I posted back my contributions deleted by him, because it was obvious that he did this on revenge of something I did not know... Other question: you wrote that I was banned because I reposted my contribution. So it means that if somebody deletes your contribution he has the right to do it, without explaining why (I didnt received any reasonable explanation from him, except that he wants a revenge on me), but if the victim repostes the deleted contributions, he is banned. This is not fair you know... Why the deleters have more rights than the posters? Why do they need no reasonable explanation for it? I am Hungarian and I see many articles which present, in a very partial way (only the negative parts) the „sins” of the Hungarians, like this "Magyarization" article, but when it comes to personalities or events in which the Hungarians were massacred, disciminated, etc., you cannot find anything about them, and when you try to introduce a contribution, presenting the anti-Hungarian acts, your contribution is deleted, like it was for example with my contribution in the article on Avram Iancu, who is presented ın the article as Romanian national hero, but when you try to write that, besides of this, he is guilty of massacrating many thousands of Hungarian civilians of every age and gender (look here: http://hungarianhistory.com/lib/kosztin/kosztin.pdf, p. 32-42), your contributions are deleted constantly by those Romanians, Serbians, Slovaks which follow these page, and you are lucky if you are not banned, like I was a day before. This happened to me in many times, like in the above mentioned „Avram Iancu” article, my contribution being deleted. the guy who deleted my contribution explained that Avram Iancu was not guilty of the massacres, because he did not led the armies. But in the same article you can read that he defeated the attacking Hungarian army. So he did not led the army when it comes to massacres, but he led the army when it defeats the Hungarian army... If we accept the fact that Avram Iancu, the overlord of the Romanians did not knew anything about what almost every one of his locotenents did, which in my oppinion is impossible... He was the leader, but he was not guilty at all... Well... Can you believe this? But why you cannot find nothing about the massacres in the articles about his locotenents (Axente Sever, Ioan Buteanu)? Do you find it fair that in the article about Avram Iancu nothing to be found about the massacring of almost 10 000 Hungarians? Without even mentioning that his troops, lets say, „without his knowledge”, massacred thousands of Hungarian civilians, burned towns and villages, libraries and other cultural values? Or again, in the Horea, Closca and Crisan article you cannot find anything about the massacring ot thosands of Hungarians by them (http://hungarianhistory.com/lib/kosztin/kosztin.pdf, p. 24-31),). Why is this? Why do you ban those who are Hungarians and try to keep the readers of Wikipedia free of demonisation of a nation, like the Hungarians, by Romanian, Slovak or Serbian contributors, and allow the latters to clean wash their historical personalities from the anti-Hungarian acts, which they did? I see on wikipedia that Hungarians and Hungary are victims of many accusations in the articles, without having any articles for example about the autonomy system in Hungary and Transylvania before 1867 (http://hungarianhistory.com/lib/hevizi/hevizi.pdf), unprecedented in Europe’s hitory. Of course who knows, maybe it was an article like that, but it could be deleted by Romanian, Serbian or Slovak people, who do not want the people of the world to know about this, because they want to keep the knowledge that the Hungarians did only bad things, and oppressed, repressed, „magyarized” them, etc... After these, I find meaningless to make any contribution which has link to Hungarian relations to Romanians, Serbians, Slovaks, because it is certain that my contributions will be deleted, and if I protest, certainly I will be banned. Because nobody in Wikipedia controles the nationalist bullying here. I am sorry that people like you only listen to them, and you ban those Hungarians who are triying to keep a balance here, fighting against an overwhelming antipaty of contributors from these nations, who try to present them to the readers of wikipedia as the black sheeps of Europe. Will this end sometimes? Sylvain1975 (talk) 11:16, 01 February 2016 (UTC) Editors on Wikipedia are urged not to personalize disputes. When you claim that editors have banded together to defend their ethnic interests, you face a high standard of proof. The arbitration case at WP:ARBEE was decided with the goal of obtaining neutral articles about topics in Eastern Europe in spite of the nationalist passions that risk having an effect on our articles. A multi-hundred-word posting like the one you wrote above that focuses on the tragedies of Hungarian history doesn't seem likely to improve the tone of these discussions. I hope you're aware that articles like Magyarization are going to present great difficulties to editors trying to achieve neutrality and a balanced perspective. A lot of patience is needed, and good use of reliable sources. Incidentally, you were blocked for edit warring, and not any issues regarding the article content. EdJohnston (talk) 22:25, 1 February 2016 (UTC) Well, if you want neutrality on these articles, you should prevent nationally committed persons, like Radezic (from his name I think he is a Serbian) to delete others contributions. The editing of politically, nationally, etc. delicate articles should be supervised by neutral persons, who have nothing to do (nationally, politically, etc.) with that issue. And I think Radezic is not that kind of person. When it is an article about a Hungarian historical figure or event, the Romanian, Serbian, Slovak editors hurry up to present their anti-nationality acts, but when it is about a Romanian, Slovak person who did negative things against the Hungarians, and you write this, it is imediately deleted, and you can do anything, because you will be banned if you continue... Myself I experienced so many times bullying from editors like him, because, for example I tried to edit articles, which had wrong parts which demonized the Hungarians, or tried to present other nations in a better position than the Hungarians, hushing up things what they did, that I lost my willing to edit Wikipedia for a long time. For example when I tried to write that the Moldavian prince Stephen the Great payed tribute to the Hungarian king Mathias Corvinus, when a Romanian editor deleted every time my contribution, saying that this is not true, although I presented him tens of articles, even from Romanian authors, which demonstrated this thing. He wrote that the books I presented are not reliable, not in English, and he found every time a reason not to allow my contribution. When I presented English and Romanian books, he found another reasons not to allow my contribution. And finally I gave up. You know, it is hard to be Hungarian on Wikipedia... This is why I think that there are very few Hungarian contributors, who write in English, because they loss their strength to continue to edit, when Romanian, Slovakian, Serbian, sometimes even Ukrainian or Croatian editors are deleting their writings, or preventing them to keep a balance in national questions which regard Hungarians and others, for the sake of the readers who want to know the truth about these issues, and not lies and demonisations. It is hard to be 1 against 5-6, who want only one thing: to present their nations bigger, superior, better than the Hungarians, and to demonize them, and because of this they delete all that you write. I have a proposition for you and the other important editors of Wikipedia. In problems which regard Hungarians and the other nations (Serbian, Romanian, Slovak), in problems which regard national relations, events, etc., you should be more aware that the Hungarians are not liked by many contributors from these nations (not because they borne like this, but because they were teached in the schools like this by their history books, which are based mainly on nationalist mythology about the centuries of Hungarian rule and oppression, than the historical truth). This is why editors of Wikipedia have to be more attent on these issues, because otherwise you will have fewer Hungarian contributors, and Wikipedia will be dominated (partially it is true for today too) by articles which present the Hungarians as monsters, and hush up the negative things which they suffered from the others. I do not believe that you want this... LOOK! IN THIS VERY MOMENT I WRITE THIS TO YOU, THE RADEZIC GUY DELETED MY CONTRIBUTION ON AVRAM IANCU, WHICH I WROTE YESTERDAY! In the article above it was written that Kossuth was a demagogue in Nicolae Balcescu's thinking. I only added that the law on nationalities which the Hungarian Government made weeks after Kossuth and Balcescu agreed about the national rights of the Romanians, shows that Balcescu was wrong, giving also reliable sources on this. It is no question about the reliability of my source, because it is published by the Hungarian Academy on Sciences. And I am usually avare of this, being myself an assistant professor in an university. It is obvious, that this Radezic now hunts every of mine contributions and deletes them. WILL YOU ALLOW THIS GUY TO DELETE ALL MY CONTRIBUTIONS ON WIKIPEDIA?? Do you want to loose another Hungarian contributor? I hope not. Sylvain1975 (talk) 10:44, 02 February 2016 (UTC) So long as you direct your editing work to nationalist hot-button topics like Magyarization and the rights of Romanians you are risking frustration. If you are an assistant professor, you may have a base of knowledge about Hungary that will allow you to improve a non-controversial article. Many of us admins know the problems with Magyarization, and we are not keen to endure more suffering on that account. If you continue to tilt at the windmills of nationalism it will not be a very tempting prospect to try helping you out. Also, your extemely long posts (filled with indignation) tend to put one off. EdJohnston (talk) 17:59, 2 February 2016 (UTC) 1. So let the anti-Hungarian people to bully Hungarians with lying or one sided articles (for example Avram Iancu was a hero, without writin that his armies killed thousands of unramed, peaceful Hungarians)? Let all the unsided things to remain, because nobody wants to end this unfair treatment? Why are we punished like this? While all the world must learn lyes about us, because we are forbidden to do anything against it? 2. Please explain me about which rights of Romanians you are talking about? The right to write everything what they please, even lies, against Hungarians, to push the "hot button" against us, as far as they want, while we are forbidden to do anything against this? We Hungarians are some kind of 2. class people here, in relation with the others? 3. In your oppinion is ok to a nation to be demonised, and when it tries to show the truth to be punished and called nationalist? I am the nationalist who tries to show the other face of the coin, or those who prevent me to do this? Or that guy who deletes all my contributions, upon whos willing to revenge on me on sometghing I didnt, you banned me, but you let him to continue anything he wants against me? 4. Is he allowed to be nationalist and to bully Hungarians, because of being a Serbian (based on his name)? Do you think this is fair? 5. Are you gonna do anything to stop him bullying me? Thanks in advance for your answers. PS. I am bothering you because you banned me, but I want a fair treatment, to see, that everybody gets equal treatment on Wikipedia. If I was punished, I expect that others who do bad things to be punished or at least prevented to continue harrassing my contributions. I would like to see the same correctness in the both cases. Sylvain1975 (talk) 01:48, 03 February 2016 (UTC) I believe you aren't listening, so there is no point in my continuing to respond. It sounds like you won't rest until you get into a giant fight. People who try that don't usually come out of it well. EdJohnston (talk) 02:14, 3 February 2016 (UTC) You do not understand me: it is not about ME. It is about the fact that wikipedia is presenting a nations history and its relations with others in a one sided, unjust way, highlighting its "sins", while hiding, furthermore, deleting (!) the others "sins" against it. This is not an inessential thing. Billions of people are reading these articles, and get wrong knowledge about it, thinking that "look, these Hungarians how bad they were, while the other nations in its neighborhood were soo good, and did only good things to them", and this creates wrong perceptions in billions of people in the world! I am very pro showing all the truth, the bad things too, but I want to see that the bad things of the others towards Hungarians to be shown too! Showing the bad things of all nations without exception, can stop future conflicts (because if, for example a Romanian if he reads only that Hungarians killed Romanians,he will be filled with hatred, but if he finds articles about the same things did by the Romanians against Hungarians, he will say: we too did bad things, and will be not filled with hatred), but showing only the sins of one of them, leads to hatred against him/it. Have you heard about the Nazi Germany?... This one sided presenting of the Hungarians and neighbouring nations on Wikipedia, leads to hatred and wrong perception against the Hungarians in the whole world! I cannot accept this! And I cannot accept that you are supporting this! And I am not a nationalist. You can read my contributions on Wikipedia as a proof. But I cannot accept injustice against me and others, which is supported by your stance here. I cannot accept that all my contributions to be deleted by one nationalist kreep, who hunts my contributions on wikipedia (I am sure that if I write about the butterflies, he will delete those contributions too), and the fact that you do nothing to stop him! My last and only demand is this! Will you do this? You were so fast in banning me, but you do not move a finger when I am attacked. Sylvain1975 (talk) 10:57, 03 February 2016 (UTC)

Reynolds and Reynolds

Just FYI in case you have a minute to take a look. David King, Ethical Wiki (CorporateM) (Talk) 22:09, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

AE proposal filed

Thanks for your suggestion, I filed the AE proposal here after receiving the support of Eperoton, a great user with whom I always disagree on content but who is here for all the right reasons and whom I respect, as well as general support at the Muhammad talk page. Thanks again for your support and keep up the good work! Jeppiz (talk) 15:16, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Recent edit

• Andrea Dworkin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I was wondering if I could get you to look at this edit. [1] I wonder if this could be used as an example of how what the actual person says and how their perspective was completely misrepresented while also sourcing them. LoveMonkey (talk) 18:27, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Why not ask about this on the article talk page? EdJohnston (talk) 20:13, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

And it was reverted [2]. I am posting this because it appears that the article has an edit warrior on it whom is engaged in [WP:OWN]. Where can I report this? As this is an example of how Wikipedia is used to disseminate misinformation. LoveMonkey (talk) 13:22, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

I suggest you remove your own addition from the article until you can get support for it at Talk:Andrea Dworkin. Your point is not clear, and you are not even adding a complete sentence. EdJohnston (talk) 18:30, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

I have asked the editor for clarification on the talkpage. I have also constructed a sentence from comments made by Cathy Young in the source provided and added them to the article body. LoveMonkey (talk) 15:55, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

As a person who returned to Wikipedia after a long block, it's to your advantage to be more patient on talk pages. At Talk:Intercourse (book)#Recent revert in article text it is hard to tell if you have any support whatever. The steps of WP:Dispute resolution are open to you. EdJohnston (talk) 16:14, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Need some guidance

Was going to ask slakr^\ talk / since I referenced him but I don't think he is available, but I was curious as to if I may have filed an incident report incorrectly. [3] It has been over 14 hours, the ones before and after me have been addressed and I may not have hit the proper link. Figured someone would have told me my error by now. Some of us with sharp writing or editing skills occasionally need help with how the technical parts work around here. Thanks. JustAGal2 (talk) 20:53, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration withdrawn

Hello EdJohnston, this is a message to inform you that an Arbitration request in which you were named a party (which can be found here) has been closed as withdrawn. For the Arbitration Committee, Kharkiv07 (T) 00:51, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

AN

This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. prokaryotes (talk) 03:07, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Please give some input, the other guys only judge per Tryptofish. I can accept a temp ban, as you suggested, but suddenly indefinite, besides MastCell fist mentioned no action, feels bad. prokaryotes (talk) 09:38, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your support

	Peacemaker67 RfA Appreciation award
	Thank you for participating and supporting at my RfA. It was very much appreciated, and I am humbled that the community saw fit to trust me with the tools. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:33, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA

	Brianhe RfA Appreciation award
	Thank you for participating at my RfA. Your support was very much appreciated even if I did get a bit scorched. Brianhe (talk) 07:49, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

A big thanks for your help at the X-Files Season 10.

Dear EdJohnston, I believe you did very very well to rename The X-Files (miniseries) back into The X-Files (season 10) without the word TV in that parenthesis.

For the history, the Page Move request initially started as:

Previous TV Name: The X-Files (miniseries)

Proposed TV Name: The X-Files (season 10) (note: the TV wasn't initially in the proposed name's parenthesis)

but during the discussion it was discovered that there was already a page about a comics with very similar name: The X-Files Season 10.

So we decided to alter slightly the Page Move request to the following:

Previous TV Name: The X-Files (miniseries)

Proposed TV Name: The X-Files (TV season 10) (note: the TV is added)

and at same time we started a new Page Move request at the comic's talk page, which was successful and the rename was done without problem:

Previous Comics Name: The X-Files Season 10

Proposed Comics Name: The X-Files Season 10 (comics)

Now, with the comics having a disambiguation on their title: The X-Files Season 10 (comics), i feel that the The X-Files (TV season 10) is no longer necessary and that the name you chose today: The X-Files (season 10) is simply perfect and doesn't cause any problems anymore.

Thank you for everything, and have a nice day! -- SILENTRESIDENT (talk) 20:53, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

I concur. Thanks!--Gen. Quon (Talk) 23:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Continued edit warring at California University of Business and Technology

A few days ago you blocked Truewiki2016 for continued edit warring at California University of Business and Technology. He or she is apparently using a sockpuppet to continue the edit war. Can you please block that account, too, and reset or extend the block on the master? And perhaps it would be helpful to semi-protect the article, too. Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 16:01, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for your note. EdJohnston (talk) 16:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Ed! ElKevbo (talk) 16:29, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Deletion headers

I have no idea. I already removed the CFD template from the other template, figuring that it was okay because it was an obscure template (nobody knew about it except for the creator and me), and the CFD template was causing a mess, but I thought I shouldn't remove it from {{la}} because that was much more heavily used, and advertising the CFD there was better. I've just noincluded the CFD template on {{la}}, so hopefully that will solve the problems you mention. If not, let me know or leave a note at WP:HD; I'll do what I can to help, but my know-how is limited. Nyttend (talk) 19:30, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, the headers at WP:COIN are looking normal again. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 20:21, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Penelope37 again

I'm sorry to bother you with this a second time, but Penelope37 (talk · contribs) is still edit warring on Chappie (film) to remove sourced content from the article, as she did the previous two times that she was blocked. It has been explained to her that MOS:FILM tells us to include the country of production in the opening sentence of the lead, but she is insisting on removing it. I'm beginning to think that she's an SPA created to edit war on this article. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:32, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

User 107.107.57.156 Article: Shari Redstone

Need some help on a user who seems to have an agenda in claiming that Redstone's ex-husband got a substantial severance package when he left the company - but it's not true; his source is an article quoting a lawsuit against Redstone's father by her brother alleging that, and the allegations were found not to be true and the lawsuit dismissed. The same user is intent on removing the ex-husband's title of 'rabbi', when it was clear that's how he was referred when Redstone married him. As I said, seems like there is an agenda and POV but this user keeps reverting. Anything that can be done?

PS - and how is that severance issue relevant to Shari Redstone's article anyway? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChosidFrumBirth (talk • contribs)

This was previously discussed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive306#User:204.195.144.134 reported by User:64.134.64.190 (Result: Semi). Use the article talk page at Talk:Shari Redstone to make your arguments. The steps of WP:Dispute resolution are open to you if it is hard to reach agreement. At present the article is fully protected by another admin. If you continue to revert about the name of Mr. Korff when protection expires it won't look good. It is to your benefit to wait for consensus. Otherwise, people will wonder if you are the person who has 'an agenda and POV.' Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 02:34, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Right now the version that is locked is 107's edits, so as you suggest I'll wait to see if 107 or anyone else comments before editing again and may be back to you for advice again if that's ok. ChosidFrumBirth (talk) 12:23, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Arb

You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Prokaryotes and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use.

Thanks, prokaryotes (talk) 05:52, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

User:Darek555 is at it again

The user you warned[4] just a few hours ago is back, edit warring to restore his edits against consensus at Permanent death.[5] He also continues his barely coherent ranting and refuses to hear about WP:V.[6] Please do what must be done. 75.129.197.146 (talk) 00:06, 11 February 2016 (UTC)