Olá. Hello. Hej. سلام

Apropos "ti" and "tiself", have you tried the google mirror?

   http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/

Egil

)CTU( 3002 ,61 raM 65:22 pyC پيسك ...etis ynnuf a s'tahT

A bootleg means it's a live album. Look from here on the history of Live At Bonds by The Clash. - No-Fx

Wrong again. a bootleg means a pirated release or released unofficially, usually without the artist's permission. Many live albums are officially released (not bootlegs). Many bootlegs arn't live (eg, unofficially released studio sessions, etc). You still haven't explained what a 'bottleg' is though. quercus robur 22:03 22 May 2003 (UTC)

Hi: for the reason we are deleting all of Michael's edits regardless of their content, see User talk:Michael/ban. Regards, The Anome 15:16 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Actually noticed that page before... Seems to be a lot of mentions to it throughout the Wikipædia... كسيپ Cyp 15:21 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)

In case you didn't already know, I've created a group watchlist of sorts at Wikipedia:Favorite pages of banned users to help with tracking when Michael is vandalizing (and any future vandals like him). So feel free too use it, I have already found it helpful, and please add to it when he vandalizes more. Thanks. MB 22:11 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Congratulations, you have just been made a sysop! You have volunteered for boring housekeeping activities which normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops basically can't do anything: They cannot delete pages arbitarily (only obvious junk like "jklasdfl,öasdf JOSH IS GAY"), they cannot protect pages in an edit war they are involved in, they cannot ban signed in users. What they can do is delete junk as it appears, ban anonymous vandals, remove pages that have been listed on Votes for deletion for more than a week, protect pages when asked to by other members, and help keep the few protected pages there are, among them the precious Main Page, up to date.

Note that almost everything you can do can be undone, so don't be too worried about making mistakes. You will find more information at Wikipedia:Administrators, please take a look before experimenting with your new powers. Drop me a message if there are any questions or if you want to stop being a sysop (could it be?). Have fun! --Eloquence 13:39 20 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Thanks.

Hmmm, now I know how people managed to revert the Michæl articles faster than me sometimes... كسيپ Cyp 17:00 22 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I've rewritten Peg solitaire -- SGBailey 23:13 20 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Added statistics again, this time complete statistics, and of the correct board. كسيپ Cyp 08:10 21 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for your endorsement! I really appreciate it! Poor Yorick 22:55 22 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Hi, I deleted the Apostrophe' article. It was by hardbanned user Michael, using his newest identity, Unbanned user. All contributions by hard banned users should be deleted on sight irrespective of content if only by them, or reverted to another user's work if another user worked on the article before them. As Michael was the originator of the article and so there was no earlier work to revert to I have deleted it. I am letting you know because you made some later changes, not realising it was Michael's work. Basically keep an eye out for music articles written by a new article. They are almost invariably in the form of details of an album. If you have any doubt, check the user's main page - if he is believed to be Michael someone will usually have placed a note to that effect on his page. If in doubt, check the vandalism page to see if he is listed there under that new name. Michael's edits are notoriously unreliable (he mixes fact with stuff he makes up) but even if they were 100% accurate, if by a hardbanned user they should be binned on sight. lol FearÉIREANN 18:42 5 Jul 2003 (UTC)

It was the first edit by that user, so I could only be 99.975412% sure it was him, so couldn't just go deleting. Therefore I just checked all of the article for "mistakes". Found a "b" instead of "B", which he corrected himself anyway, "Apostrophe" instead of "Apostrophe'", which didn't seem important, but I corrected, and a date that was the same as other sites said, but other sites also said the date wasn't completely certain, which I added to the article, don't know if that counts as a "mistake". At the time, there wasn't any talk page, or user page.

NP. :-) FearÉIREANN 22:37 5 Jul 2003 (UTC)

hello,

er, is it common practice in a discussion about banning someone that this "someone" vote is taken into account? Say, if decisions are taken upon full consensus only, and a blocking vote is enough to prevent the ban, if Lir says he is against him being banned, he then will not be ? :-) User:anthere

Actually, I just assumed RK would be against banning himself, not sure if I actually checked that he stated he was against the ban. Anyway, I'm pretty sure 1 vs 6/7 isn't quite enough for a ban, so probably doesn't matter whether RK's vote is taken into account. كسيپ Cyp 22:00 9 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Hi,

I seem to have sorted out the problem with these odd characters. They get broken with Lynx. And I must use Lynx. The solution seems to be to put Linux console in unicode mode and change Lynx options accordingly. I have been just experimenting with editing the offending parts of text with Lynx and now it looks OK. I sometimes forget to put the console into unicode mode and this might occasionally happen. Besides Lynx does not show the characters specially they are just "aa" letters before and after editing with Lynx, so it's harder to spot somthing is broken.
--Kpjas 17:45 9 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Well, good it's possible to get it to work... Browsers can do strange things sometimes... كسيپ Cyp 22:00 9 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for cafe wall illusion :) Regards. -- sannse 21:40 9 Jul 2003 (UTC)

No problem, it was already there, anyway. (In french, at least.) Most of the editing done by other people, too. كسيپ Cyp 22:00 9 Jul 2003 (UTC)

No problem with the link added to Randi's entry.
- Lord Kenneth

I am very willing to go over either New Imperialism version with you - I think its very important that somebody read these. This is an important part of history, a result of the industrial revolution and a cause of the World Wars. Pizza Puzzle

Unless someone else reads them first, and somehow changes all the sentences into mathematical statements, I think it's better if someone else looks at them instead. A spell checker could understand them better than I could. כסיף Cyp 08:21 24 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the page-moving tip! I appreciate the help. Jwrosenzweig

No problem, glad to be of help. כסיף Cyp 21:52 24 Jul 2003 (UTC)

my article is neither intended only for laymen, nor is it a summary -- mine is a FULL article Pizza Puzzle

Sorry, I just assumed it was supposed to be a summary, because it was shorter, and I read someone saying it was for laymen, guess it wasn't you that said that, then. כסיף Cyp 16:05 25 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Absolutely not, 172 argues that it is "for laymen" so that he can pretend to be an expert and argue that his version is somehow superior. READ HIS ARTICLE -- ALL OF IT I guarantee you, that regardless of your knowledge on the subject, it will become overwhelmingly apparent that this article is not wikified and needs an overhaul. The article is cut and pasted together, repetitive, POV, rambling, and frequently off topic. It is also way past the 32k limit. I also guarantee you that you will not be able to read his entire article - its an abomination that will give you a headache.

I can't read more than a few sentences of either article, before the words stop making sense. Even if the articles were perfect, I still couldn't make any sense of them. I don't even understand the title. I am not disagreeing with you, simply stating that I have no way of telling the difference between a masterpiece on the subject and computer-generated ramblings. כסיף Cyp 09:49 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

My article is not a summary, it is a complete rewrite and it should replace the older article. Pizza Puzzle

The article was almost entirely written by one user, who has reacted with extreme passion to any attempts to change the article. He actually protected the page after I made a link from a word to an article! Pizza Puzzle

I may have found a few of his actions a little odd. כסיף Cyp 09:49 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I liked Truncated dodecahedron, but you'll never get away with it: jimfbleak

Been 6 days, thought it would last about a minute before someone replaced it... Was wondering if anyone noticed... Ксйп Cyp 15:54, 3 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I just noticed; I don't have the heart to kill something that amusing. Cyan 05:08, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I see you've changed your byline to Cyrillic characters. I'd like to inform you that the four Cyrillic characters you have there are all consonants. Remove the diacritic mark, and then you'll have something that may correspond to your actual nickname, depending on how you really pronounce it. -Smack 06:20, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Thanks, I thought й was just supposed to be a shorter и. Was meant to be somewhere between Cip and Ceep, maybe a tiny bit of oo, but I'm not sure. Come to think of it, y is sometimes considered a consonant in English, too, although it's probably not normally pronounced like that... Will probably be changing to Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい after a while. Ксип Cyp 08:24, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Yeah, it is called "short", but it actually represents the "y" sound in "boy." -Smack 21:54, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Hello. Responded to your comment on User talk:163.1.242.5. Please see that page. Many thanks.

Dear Cyp, i put that notice, because i started to post nonsense pages in Wikipedia:Deleted test to avoid filling Votes for Deletion with unecessary junk. Cheers, Muriel Gottrop 12:13, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I know, think changing pages into redirects is easier than putting them on Votes for deletion, when they just contain only obvious junk like "jklasdfl,öasdf JOSH IS GAY". (In theory, isn't even nesseccary to list on the actual Deleted test page, as they appear under what links here, anyway.) Think the Deleted test page would be used more, if most of the people that would have used it hadn't turned sysop. (See Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.) Ксип Cyp 13:41, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)

When RK comes back I want to nominate him for sysop (again) I dont ask for much, but I ask that you support his nomination. Sincerely-戴&#30505sv 23:24, Aug 16, 2003 (UTC)

I would have, but I was in Brazil at the time, and didn't see this request. Ксип Cyp 21:04, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Hello,I saw your name in the page history as a recent edit in the following context, am hence trying to clarify something. I just read the page 'Pattern Language' following a link from architecture. It is totally about something else altogether except for first two paras. Pattern language related to architecture is about design process. Is there some other pattern language related to computers?If so I will rewrite the initial part as a separate section with a dividing line or create a separate pageKRS 13:35, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Not exactly recent history (note the month), anyway, I don't know anything about the subject, I just reverted something which seemed to me, to be a joke. Ксип Cyp 21:04, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Please voice your opinion on deletion.

21st Century Transcendentalism is not a religion and does not advocate (request belief, membership or anything else) anything; it stands for religious rationality in the 21st Century. If Wikipedia can describe what atheists, Christianity, Islam, Bokononism thinks then why can not I as a 21st Century Transcendentalist describe what I think? Bias, maybe?

“Transcendentalism Today Org.” with Kurt Kawohl as its founder has been accepted by and is a member of: IONS - Institute of Noetic Sciences, World Interfaith Congress, United Communities of Spirit, Alliance for Spiritual Community, Interfaith Voices for Peace And Justice, user:kkawohl

Just came back from Brazil, suppose the page has already been deleted. Ксип Cyp 21:04, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I suggest include in the keyboard layout the US keyboard, because is the used in the booting of Linux .

I've just added the US keyboard layout too, now. Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 21:26, 23 Oct 2003 (UTC)

And the German-nodeadkeys too. You can see a link in the bottom of the page, because the german is the used by Gnoppix Linux, when Gnome is loaded - the default keyboard in Gnoppix. Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure what a "nodeadkey" is... As for the rest of the keyboard, I can't upload it at the moment... Either I've been banned from uploading images (unlikely, since I still have sysop access), or there is some problem with images at the moment... Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 19:01, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the nomination. It is encouraging to find that one's efforts have been appreciated. I guess now I find out how many Wiki enemies I've made over the last 6 months and 2000 edits. mydogategodshat 17:20, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I suppose megalo plus anthus would give megalanthus rather than megaloanthus, but it is a fine point. :) Adam 01:38, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

<Insert sensible talk above this line only>
<Insert random vandalism below this line only>

As requested above... HOW QTZNY WODRUMPF. -- SGB

Thanks for fixing the [[[ ]] Bmills 17:42, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I would like to express a heartfelt thanks to: Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp , Cimon Avaro on a pogostick, snoyes, Adam Bishop , Secretlondon, Hephaestos , 207.189.98.44 , Jamesday, Pakaran for nominating me and supporting me. It is encouraging to know that my efforts over the past 6 months have been appreciated. I prize your actions all the more knowing that many of you were not familiar with my work and had to do some research to decide whether to support me or not (because I limit my contributions to the 750 business/economics articles) . Thank you for the time, the effort, and the confidence.

There was a minority that did not support me because of my name. It seems that half have a problem because they read “shat” into it and half because of the word “god”. I find this amazing. The people that read “shat” into the character string had to ignore the commonly used word “hat” and pick out a word that has not be in common use for more than a century. My spell checker is currently telling me that the word dosn’t exist. One complainant insisted on converting “Monad” into “gonads” and “Excrescent” into “excrement”. Another saw “a dog eating a bone” as a sexual act. All I can say to these people is “Get professional help”.

As for changing my name, I have decided not to do that for two reasons. One is a philosophical reason. For an explanation, read The Crucible, particularly where John Proctor declares the importance of your name. The price of adminship is too high. The other reason is a practical one. I find it useful to use the same name on all my online activities. It is interesting that two universities and several commercial sites don’t have a problem with my name. Maybe it is not all that surprising since they are not inhabited by trolls trying to forward their cause.

Hope to see you around the business/economics pages in the future. mydogategodshat 03:02, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Hi - just to let you know that I have posted an answer to your question at Wikipedia:Reference Desk#Symmetry groups -- Gandalf61 16:10, Nov 22, 2003 (UTC)

Hi - I was previously unaware of the feeding habits of the Truncated dodecahedron; thanks for filling me in! Alas, it seems the information has been removed from the current article, but that's how things go I suppose... --Delirium 02:35, Nov 24, 2003 (UTC)

Dear Cyp, just to tell you that i'm keeping the original version of the truncated dodecaedron in my user page. It's to funny to be lost! Cheers and keep the good work! Muriel Victoria 14:20, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Cyp - I agree re: mydogategodshat. Secretlondon 13:16, Nov 29, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Cyp, please see this dif for comment re. mydogategodshat. Regards -- sannse 14:02, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Re nomination: I think he definitely should be nominated again at some point, although I don't think I should be the one to do it, preferably someone who works on more articles with him. My first thought was that it might be too soon, but on second thought maybe it would be good to strike while the iron's hot. - Hephaestos 14:28, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Glad people are supportive of re-nomination... Was worried that everyone might just forget about it, which would be a shame... Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 15:21, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

After the person that I had added to desysop actually supported my nomination(eloquence) i removed him. THanks for the concern and happy wiki-ing! Alexandros

I'm (snoyes) moving your question on the reference desk here in case you want to keep a copy of it:

Symmetry groups

The symmetry groups of the archimedean solids snub cube and snub dodecahedron are like the symmetry groups of the cube and the dodecahedron, just without the reflections. Would those groups be called "O" and "I"? (Instead of "O_h" and "I_h"?) Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 14:43, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Yes - the symmetry group of the snub cube is "O", and the symmetry group of the snub dodecahedron is "I" - see octahedral group and icosahedral group at MathWorld. -- Gandalf61 16:06, Nov 22, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks. Seems they even have the coordinates for the snub cube there (but not at their actual snub cube article)... Wikipedia is still the only site I know of that has the exact snub dodecahedron coordinates (without having to solve a degree 6 polynomial), though. (Up to mirrors of Wikipedia) Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 17:50, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)

User talk:MediaWiki default made me laugh. Maybe you should welcome User:Conversion script too. She seems to have made a lot of contributions. :) Angela . 23:33, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Hexadecimal - thanks for your explanation. I had an intuitive sense of which decimals terminated, and a professor explained it to me, but I never really "got it". Pakaran 09:01, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Jupiter moons

Thanks for correcting number of moons under 39. I had outdated information (World Book Almanac 2003) and I should have doublechecked with another source. -- Anonymous User

Special:Wantedpages

It already has done. :) Angela .

Meister-Bafög

The official name of Meister-Bafög is AFBG (Aufstiegsfortbildungsförderungsgesetz). Try this machine-translated governmental web page: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr?url=http%3A//www.bmbf.de/252_3440.html&lp=de_en 82.82.127.8 23:50, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Tried machine translating a lot of pages already... Anyway, thanks, I think I've got an answer now.

\ _{\ _{\mathrm {K} \sigma \upsilon \pi -{\sqrt {C^{2}+y^{2}+p^{2}}}}}

13:28, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Your handle reaches unfathomed heights of silliness. :) Does that mathematical expression actually mean anything? -Smack 22:26, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)

πぱい is about 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749, and the way C, y and p are used, I suppose {C,y,p} is some kind of vector. I'm not sure what the Κかっぱ, σしぐま and υうぷしろん are. Doubt it's quantum mechanics, because there isn't any

\hbar

in there anywhere... I'll have to meditate on myself for a while. I hope I'm some new interesting physical law that hasn't been discovered yet...

\ _{\ _{\mathrm {K} \sigma \upsilon \pi -{\sqrt {C^{2}+y^{2}+p^{2}}}}}

22:39, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Wikibooks admin app

Sorry it took so long, but you are now a Wikibooks admin. Use your new powers for good and resist the temptation of the dark side. ;) --mav 10:46, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hadn't looked there for a while... Anyway, now there's a more legible MediaWiki:Loginend article there. Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 16:17, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)

You're wonderful

I just wanted to thank you for all your help with the computational geometry stuff on the reference desk. I still haven't quite accomplished what I need to do, but I'm getting there. In case you're wondering what the heck I need all these intersections of planes & 3D-solids for, I'm trying to rewrite some classic 1950s code that finds the linear supersonic theory approximation to airplane wave drag. moink 04:13, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)

You're welcome. Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 18:56, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Request for Comments on Plautus satire

Your comments are requested on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Plautus satire. →Raul654 05:14, Feb 19, 2004 (UTC)

Vote added to "straw" poll there (on 19th feb). (Haven't been following what's happening carefully.) Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 18:56, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Would you consider checking the situation out again? silsor 20:38, Feb 23, 2004 (UTC)

Autoblocks always last for 24 hours after the last logged-in page view. -- Tim Starling 13:11, Feb 22, 2004 (UTC)

That seems to be correct, although I had expected it would be shorter than 24 hours, if the regular block also would expire in less than 24 hours. (I asked about it before I saw your message here.) Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 18:56, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hi Cyp! At WikipediaNL we are checking all images that don't mention copyrights. Everyone checks his/hers own uploads. Some time ago I uploaded image:resistors.jpg that you uploaded on EN. I would like to know what the copyright-status of this image is, so that we can be sure we can use it on NL. Is it your own picture and released under GNU? Please respond at nl:Overleg gebruiker:Fruggo. Thanks! Fruggo 13:41, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for your speedy answer! Fruggo 19:55, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

You're welcome... Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 20:03, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

redgreen.png

Moved to Talk: Color blindness.

From a fan

I haven't seen you around a while, until now, which I thought was a shame! Your Wiki-work (+Wikibooks stuff) is always great, so keep up the good work you do :) Dysprosia 05:52, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I have been checking my watchlist a few times a day, though. Had a couple of exams, one left. Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 06:02, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Dodecahedron.gif

Nice spinning goombah! --Gary D 10:25, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Them There Purdy Shapes

I can't lavish enough praise on you for those damned beautiful shapes you've created. Jolly good work! By the way, I'm VascoDaGama from #wikipedia.

Again, jolly good work! DO'Neil 11:14, Jun 15, 2004 (UTC)

re: blocking vandals

In the future, when blocking usernames that are part of the vandal-bot problem we are having these days, please block them indefinitely. thanks! :) Kingturtle 17:40, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Gaussian

Hello. I notice that in Box-Muller transform you spelled Gaussian with a lower-case g. Is that because you feel that if Abel is honored by the lower-case initial in abelian, the Gauss should be as well? Or just habit? Do you have some position on this usage issue? Michael Hardy 18:21, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Habit, probably. I hadn't actually thought about capitalisation. Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 10:27, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Dvorak Keyboard

If you have time, would you consider making images of the Dvorak Simplified Keyboard to be added to Keyboard layout?

Darrien 18:20, 2004 Jul 11 (UTC)

I'm a bit tired of Internet Exploiter, and should probably some time try to find a type-of-computer-independant way of making keyboards that look the same... Given my experience with Microsoft stability, I consider it not entirely unlikely that future versions of Internet Exploiter would spontaneously decide to render the keyboards upsidedown with green on pink in the Symbol font... Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 10:27, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

License?

Hi, on french wp we use your pic Image:Redgreen.png and I'd like to know the exact license. Is it GFDL ? Thanks in advance Tipiac 11:54, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC) (please reply on my discuss page).

n!!

I can't make sense of that at the moment, maybe I'm too sleepy... As far as I can tell, $(2n-1)!!\neq 1\cdot 3\cdot \dots \cdot (2n-1)={\frac {(2n)!}{n!2^{n}}}$ . Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 00:08, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

What you're not making sense of is the word where. The notation n!! does not mean the factorial of the factorial of n, but rather it means what it says it means after the word "where". That's what "where" means in this kind of mathematical jargon. The notation is obnoxious because n!! ought to mean the factorial of the factorial of n, but this and similar notation seem to have some currency. Michael Hardy 02:08, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

PS: I'd write

1\cdot 3\cdots (2n-1)

rather than

1\cdot 3\cdot \dots \cdot (2n-1).

Name

Reply is on My talk page. Nice polyhedra. Good day. — Ilγがんまαあるふぁηいーたεいぷしろんρろー (Tαあるふぁlκかっぱ) 21:39, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

)CTU( 4002 guA 2 ,93:12 )κかっぱlαあるふぁT( ρεηαγlI .yad dooG .ardehylop eciN .egap klat yM no si ylpeR

Chebyshev polynomials

Many thanks for the graph. I had hoped me edits would lure you on the page and you would create a second graph ;) I do not know the application of chebyshev polynomials of the second kind either. I only know they are closely related to the first kind and that the first kind is used to construct a best polynomial approximation.MathMartin 21:13, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Recent edits

Thanks for the very illustrative image for Lagrange polynomial. It should make the material much clearer. As for your edits on Divided differences and Newton polynomial, they were correct. The errors you corrected were mine.MathMartin 12:28, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

polyhedron images

Hi Cyp,

I noticed that someone had started a listing Wikipedia:List of images of GFDL/GPL/... images. So I started a polyhedron listing Wikipedia:List of images/Math Diagrams/Polyhedra within the "Math diagrams" (should be "Mathematics", but whatever) to include those we created a while back. Then I did a 1,$s/.../.../ on the list from your homepage, a |sort and a manual tweak. If I have missed any, feel free to add.

Cheers, Andrew Kepert 03:33, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Added a couple of antiprisms and a trapezohedron. Apart from them, don't remember any other polyhedræ. Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 2004年ねん10月がつ25日にち (月)げつ 12:01 (UTC)

Hi again Cyp. Just letting you know that I have been modding Poly.pov to churn out some Johnson solids. See Talk:Johnson solid for progress (23 done, I think) and User:AndrewKepert/poly.pov for source. ... and if you could tell me how to get the image upload widget to accept a .pov file, it would be appreciated. --Andrew Kepert 09:02, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I saw that somewhere a few days ago (thought there were 5 or so at the time, but can't remember), was thinking I should look at it to see how it's done, and see if there's a more efficient way... Just had an exam today, maybe I'll actually have time to look at it properly, soon. Doesn't it say "Warning: .pov files are not a recommended format, save anyway?", where you can click on "save anyway"? If the system doesn't accept .pov files any more, try changing it to a .npov file. I thought about the problem a few months ago (or whenever I finished the Catalan solids), but couldn't think of a "neat" way of doing it, "neat" meaning automatically finding the coordinates for all the solids without some kind of repeated approximation. No promises, but maybe I can take a look soon. Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 22:51, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Ah yes, I forgot - Wikipedia prefers .npov to .pov 8-) I didn't see the "save anyway?" link, so either I have link blindness or it is no longer available. I will check next time. As for the J solids, I have mainly been doing what Johnson referred to as "Cut and Paste" solids, and doing them in batches of similar solid. Low hanging fruit. The half-dozen or so genuinely new ones (hebesphenomegacorona(?) et al) I am thinking about. The coords are algebraic, but this doesn't mean much. It is probably easiest to use a "ball and spring" simulation to solve for the coords. ... or find the coords somewhere else (no challenge). Andrew Kepert 04:23, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Polyhedral nets

Hi Cyp,

I just noticed where you have been inserting nets (flattened skins) of polyhedra here and there. With these, it is probably best to add a caption or explanation on what the image is. Does a page net (polyhedron) or similar exist? If not, it should, and you could put on each image a caption like "The net of the fubarahedron". (Ref: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Net.html).

I have been thinking of using Wikipedia:Infobox templates for the polyhedron pages. My feeling is that the net of the polyhedron could be put in here. I will to look up how to create one of these.

Also I noticed that your images have heavier lines on the joins, presumably from being redrawn. Bug or feature?

Cheers, Andrew Kepert 00:52, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Update - I have implemented two templates. See their use at Hebesphenomegacorona and Cuboctahedron. As I understand them, the templates don't have optional parameters (e.g. for most of the Johnson solids I don't think it is worth having a line for "dual" - this is not possible to disable) but there may be work-arounds using subtemplates and such. Too sophisticated for a first attempt. Also I think the template needs an "image caption" parameter (which could be blank) as your previous version of cuboctahedron page did have text there. Andrew Kepert 08:19, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Blink

Could you please reconsider your use of blinking text in your signature? It is rather annoying… --fvw 12:49, 2004 Oct 25 (UTC)

thanks --fvw 15:34, 2004 Oct 25 (UTC)

Rice's theorem response

Hi, I noticed this rather ancient comment of yours on Talk: Rice's theorem:

Isn't it decidable if an algorithm halts after 3 billion steps? Can't you test it by running it for 3 billion steps? كسيپ Cyp 22:05 8 Jun 2003 (UTC)

This is a common confusion, and I added this paragraph to the article to help address it:

It is important to note that Rice's Theorem does not say anything about properties of machines, only of functions and languages. For example, asking whether a machine runs for more than 100 steps on some input, whether it has more than 5 states, or whether it ever moves its tape head to the left are all nontrivial but decidable properties. They are not properties of the language because it is possible to find two machines recognizing exactly the same language, one which has the property and one which does not.

In short, Rice's Theorem only applies if the property being decided is a property not of the specific machine but of the language recognized by that machine. Derrick Coetzee 06:55, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I wrote that when there was an early, short version of the page. I don't think it was clear to me at the time, that it had nothing to do with actual implementations or actual turing machines. Κかっぱσしぐまυうぷしろんπぱい Cyp 22:51, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well, it's not exactly true to say it has nothing to do with actual Turing machines either. It is often stated in terms of deciding a property of a given Turing machine, and a property's nontriviality can also be defined in terms of recognizable languages. Deco 16:52, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)