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Casualties

A new WSJ report, citing western estimates, says that Russian casualties are ~200,000 killed, 400,000 wounded and "at least" 80,000 Ukrainians killed and 400,000+ wounded.^[1] this should be added to the casualties infobox. Maxsmart50 (talk) 14:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added the estimate of Ukrainian casualties which the WSJ actually cites to a confidential Ukrainian estimate earlier in the year. As for the western estimates mentioned, they were most likely referring to the very recent UK estimate which put Russian casualties at 610,000 and which is already included in the table. We can add it additionally if other editors want to, but I think it would be redundant since we already include the UK estimate, as well as the Economist one which runs up to 728,000. EkoGraf (talk) 17:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Kulyk

Can someone please add him? Ukrainian former national cycling coach Alexander Kulyk [uk] died on 1 March 2022 in a mission evacuating people from Kyiv.^[2]^[3]

References

^ https://www.wsj.com/world/one-million-are-now-dead-or-injured-in-the-russia-ukraine-war-b09d04e5
^ Крістіна Члек, "Що ти скажеш українському народу?". У селі Грунь на Сумщині затримали російських військових, Suspilne Media, 1 March 2022
^ CHRIS MARSHALL-BELL, Ukrainian cycling coach and father of recent national champion killed in war; former pro Andriy Grivko working to help country's cyclists, Cycling Weekly, 2 March 2022

This article is annoying and difficult to read for a casual reader.

If a casual reader wants to know the estimated amount of casualities from each side of two waring states, they can easily do that from any other war by just going to the war's wiki and reading the casualities in the box on the right. But for the Russo-Ukrainian war, not only do they need to click on a link to a new wiki, they cant easily just read an estimate of each side. Instead it gives estimates for the 3 conflicts seperately, but not by each side. So if I want to know how many Russians have died in the Russo-Ukrain war as a whole, Id need to actually add the numbers from the 3 conflicts together after reader multiple sections of the wiki. Can someone who has the privilege, knowledge and will to edit this article please just add a normal summary at the top of the page which can be updated when needed? 120.148.1.93 (talk) 06:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kuzio estimate

Taras Kuzio writes in 2023 that Upwards of 150,000 Ukrainian civilians have been killed since 2014. 100,000 of these were killed during the destruction of Mariupol. - Fascism and Genocide - Google Books p. 10. Fellow editors please add that to the article. ManyAreasExpert (talk) 13:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Russian MOD source

Why is the Russian MOD used as a source in this article? We know for a fact that they aren't a trustworthy source. We know they greatly exaggerate, lie, and downplay just about everything to be in their favor. Its not even worth including here, you might as well include Alex Jones' opinion. Why would you intentionally include a source that we know for fact lies and is illegitiamte? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.59.115 (talk) 07:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What particular fragment? ManyAreasExpert (talk) 07:46, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“Millions” of death

At last night’s US presidential debate, Donald Trump asserted that the casualty figures we are all seeing are “fake numbers” and that the casualties are actually in the “millions”. Were it anyone else, we could simply ignore the statement, but given that he was and may well be again the US President, the commander in chief of the most powerful military machine ever, and with access to what is presumably some of the best military intelligence in the world, surely the article needs to either mention his estimate, or explain why it is not being used? 76.89.162.73 (talk) 00:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.wsj.com/world/one-million-are-now-dead-or-injured-in-the-russia-ukraine-war-b09d04e5

[2] Крістіна Члек, "Що ти скажеш українському народу?". У селі Грунь на Сумщині затримали російських військових, Suspilne Media, 1 March 2022

[CW-3] CHRIS MARSHALL-BELL, Ukrainian cycling coach and father of recent national champion killed in war; former pro Andriy Grivko working to help country's cyclists, Cycling Weekly, 2 March 2022

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