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Ethnicity and nationality Q1: Why is Lin the first Chinese player in the NBA when there was Yao Ming and other Chinese before him?
A1: Lin was born in America, and has American nationality, while Yao Ming does not. He is the first American of Chinese or Taiwanese descent to play in the league.[1] Q2: Sources say Lin is Taiwanese-American. Why is it mentioned he is of Chinese descent?
A2: Regardless of whether Taiwan is considered part of China, Lin is of Chinese descent since his maternal grandmother is originally from Zhejiang, China.[2]. No precedence is given to his descent based upon his parents being from Taiwan. He is still of Chinese descent in addition to being of Taiwanese descent. Sources refer to Lin being of Chinese descent.[3][4][5][6] Lin himself has said, "You can call me a Taiwanese basketball player, a Chinese basketball player or just a basketball player."[7] Q3: Taiwan is part of China. Why is Taiwanese mentioned when he is really Chinese?
A3: Both of Lin's parents grew up in Taiwan before emigrating to the United States, and Lin's ancestors have been in Taiwan since the 18th Century.[8] The Wikipedia article only says Lin is an American of "Taiwanese descent", in reference to the origin of his ancestors; this does not imply nationality and is independent of the political status of Taiwan. Lin himself has said, "You can call me a Taiwanese basketball player, a Chinese basketball player or just a basketball player."[9] Q4: Why is "or" used instead of "and" in "Lin is ... the first American of Chinese or Taiwanese descent to play in the league."
A4: There had never been an American NBA player before of Chinese descent. There had also never been an American of Taiwanese descent. Using "and" is more restrictive. It would imply that there was previously a Chinese-American that wasn't of Taiwanese descent in the NBA, or a Taiwanese-American that wasn't of Chinese descent. Neither of which had occurred. Using "or" is less restrictive, and more encompassing of all conditions of Lin's milestone.[10][11] |
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[edit]Acechen0 (talk) 23:12, 13 February 2022 (UTC) Do Jeremy Lin's brothers also play professional basketball overseas?
- @Acechen0: Questions about a topic are best handled at Wikipedia:Reference desk. That said, biographies might list information related to one's family in a section like "Personal life". Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 00:55, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Copyright violation deleted more than one year late
[edit]for the record, File:Time Warner Cable Arena Jeremy Lin Painting 2015.jpg could have been removed in September 2020 and would hence cause less damage to the copyright owner of the poster but deletion was prevented by User:Mackensen.--RZuo (talk) 20:53, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
First Asian NBA?
[edit]What about Yao Ming of the Houston Rockets? 174.105.45.227 (talk) 22:15, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- What about him? – Muboshgu (talk) 22:20, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed that article should be updated because Yao Ming who is nationally and ethnically Chinese was drafted in 2002. It should either read that Jeremy Lin is the first player of Taiwanese descent to play in the NBA or say something about Jeremy Lin being the first Chinese American in the league. Leexinfo (talk) 03:14, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- It's already prefaced in the lead with "first American of":
Lin was the first American of Chinese or Taiwanese descent to play in the NBA...
—Bagumba (talk) 06:43, 16 March 2023 (UTC)- Oh boy, I just consistently misread that sentence! Disregard! Leexinfo (talk) 13:36, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- I know that there's been extensive debate about the sentence that has been largely resolved with the specification of Lin being the first American of Chinese or Taiwanese descent removing any ambiguity, but if it's worth noting, there were other people from China who've played in the NBA long before Yao Ming. Like Tom Meschery (born in Harbin; of Russian descent) He was the first foreign-born NBA All-Star.[12] Clear Looking Glass But he's not ethnic Chinese. (talk) 02:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- It's already prefaced in the lead with "first American of":
- Agreed that article should be updated because Yao Ming who is nationally and ethnically Chinese was drafted in 2002. It should either read that Jeremy Lin is the first player of Taiwanese descent to play in the NBA or say something about Jeremy Lin being the first Chinese American in the league. Leexinfo (talk) 03:14, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
First of Chinese or Taiwanese decent?
[edit]Why not just say Taiwanese? Why add extra countries? It sounds confusing. 2402:7500:95B:BD85:11E:14F4:2419:F82 (talk) 17:18, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
The night before his breakout game, he slept on the couch of teammate Landry Fields.
[edit]I have twice removed this piece of (I think self evidently) indiscriminate and non-noteworthy information. It's been put back twice. Am I missing something here? How is this not mere bloat? Friendly regards to all, Springnuts (talk) 19:33, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Wife
[edit]@Bagumba:The reporter didn't ask Jeremy if his wife was Filipino-American, he was asked about his clothes, it was Jeremy Lin himself who mentioned that his wife was Filipino (
Reporter:
Jeremy:
I typed out the original text of the whole conversation, you can go to YT to find today's video and compare it yourself.
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寒 吉 : In the English translation of that Yahoo source, the title says "Jeremy Lin confirmed for the first time that his wife is of Filipino descent." In the article, it says "which confirmed the previous speculation that Mrs. Lin was Filipino-American." The article appears to be saying she is of Filipino descent, not that she's necessarily a citizen of the Phillipines. Having the Wikipedia article say "She is Filipino" is ambiguous and potentially misleading. —Bagumba (talk) 17:08, 29 November 2023 (UTC)- @Bagumba:Jeremy Lin didn't "confirm" that, as I mentioned earlier, there was no mention of Filipino-American in the entire conversation, and it was scribbled by the reporters themselves. And Jeremy Lin answered 「
我 老婆 是 菲律賓 的 」, not 「我 老婆 是 菲律賓 人 」, nor 「我 老婆 是 菲律賓 裔」, in Chinese 「菲律賓 裔」(of Filipino descent) is just one of the meanings of 「菲律賓 的 」(Filipino). 「菲律賓 的 」 means the same as disambiguation page written, "Filipinos, people who are citizens of the Philippines or of Filipino descent". Jeremy Lin's answer today was ambiguous, if you think that such content is misleading, you can choose to remove it.寒 吉 (talk) 17:38, 29 November 2023 (UTC)- It seems you want to play it conservative regarding where she is American or not. We can wait to see if there are more sources or not. In the meantime, the open-ended "Filipino" is fine. Thanks. —Bagumba (talk) 17:47, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Bagumba:Jeremy Lin didn't "confirm" that, as I mentioned earlier, there was no mention of Filipino-American in the entire conversation, and it was scribbled by the reporters themselves. And Jeremy Lin answered 「
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