Talk:Maquis (World War II)
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[edit]I think it would be very interesting to learn about the organisation of the french Resistace and whether it was based alonmg organisaton routes similar to that of the Third Reich.
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Maquis
[edit]They were probably all riddled with spys, agents, and traders.
The article says "some maquisards did commit atrocities." Any source for this?Manormadman (talk) 14:53, 30 November 2008 (UTC)Manormadman.
The article refers to the mountainous areas of Brittany. This is repeated elsewhere on the 'net, word for word. Brittany has hills up to 400ish metres. I have noted in the main text that this is cannot be a correct description, but did not want to remove the reference as I have no knowledge on this point. Quincefish (talk) 12:18, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Mostly a legend...
[edit]The whole French Resistance had very little effect on the German war effort. In fact, the whole French population was quite friendly with the Germans. (Well some people were lazy, they didnt want to do da forced labor thingy. :) ) Of course, De Gaulle had his minor resistance against the Germans, so after the war his goverment started a state-funded propaganda campaign to build the "legend" of the Maquis...maybe he wanted to make the next generations believe, that their parents and grandparents didnt help the Germans to commit their war-crimes. Even nowadays, films are made about the great resistance, for example "Charlotte Gray"...it seems that misinformation campaign succeeded.
- Bet your a Yank with nothing better to do than make ignorant comments. History paints a very different picture from the one you present. The French resistance played a fundamental role in the Second World War. You make me sick! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.56.116.105 (talk) 18:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- I completley disagree my Grandfather was a member of the SAS and fought along side the Maquis, they conducted countless missions desrtoy weapons chaches, troop collums, roads to the front, the list goes on.--Rob 05:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
"The Next Moon" by Andre Hue & Ewen Southerby-Tailyour, great book that covers the missions of the French SAS and SOE during June 44 who also helped organise the French Maquis.
The part where 7000 maquis defeated 22000 SS soldiers, sounds like a big lie. The SS weren't afraid to die, however they made sure you down with them. They were equipped with lots of hardware, compared to other german divisions. There needs to be proof this happening, else it SHOULD be regarded as a fat lie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.242.185.224 (talk) 09:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
The resistance was a mixed bag. It was not ineffective, nor was it as popular at the time as post war France pretended. But it did have wide support, which increased as soon as the Communists stopped informing on it, helping the occupying Germans and generally sabotaging the war effort.
Reccomend the recently opened museum of the resistance in Paris. The whole story is finally told, and whoever started this thread can learn something.
What the exhibit needs is something the Hoover Institution in Stanford, California has. Copies of the Communist newspaper ‘L’Humanite’, full of articles on how workers in munitions plants should strike against ‘the imperialist war’. This was the party line on the Nazis until Hitler double crossed them and attacked their precious Soviet Union. Most striking for me: the headline on the party paper the day the Germans marched into Paris - WELCOME THE GERMAN PROLETARIAN SOLDIERS. 2A00:23C5:E0A0:8300:85DD:A32A:1AB5:EFF4 (talk) 19:46, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
SAS Involvment
[edit]I rekon we should mention the SAS involvement with the Maquis. They where parachuted in and set up camps basiclly provinding supplies and command and control aswell as assiting on missions.
In Spain, the term Maquis commonly refers to spaniards who had fled to france after the spanish civil war, but continued to carry out guerrilla attacks in spain against the fascist government there. shouldn't there be a mention of this? Murderbike 07:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
This article is about Worl War II maquis although the spanish civil war and WWII are intertwined so I am not sure if it should go here. --Mcgrath50 07:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
hmm, ok, maybe i'll just try to do a spanish maquis page. Murderbike 08:55, 8 January 2007
Maybe Im confussed but wasnt the Spanish Civil War before the WWII? Is it a French or a Spanish word then?
Literature
[edit]Can anyone recommend a decent book (in English) covering the history of the Maquis? --Bikeroo 07:19, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
"The Next Moon" by Andre Hue & Ewen Southerby-Tailyour, great book that covers the missions of the French SAS and SOE during June 44 who also helped organise the French Maquis. - Chris 16/10/2007 16.40 (GMT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.249.149.2 (talk)
Odd statement in the Operations section.
[edit]In the Operations section there is this statement:
- In French Indochina, the local resistance fighting the Japanese since 1941 was backed up by a special forces airborne commando unit created by de Gaulle in 1943, and known as the Corps Léger d'Intervention (CLI). They were supplied by airlifts of the British Force 136.
The sentence seems out of place here, as there is no direct mention of how this resistance movement relates to the Maquis, other than there was an organized resistance. Resistance movements exist in most wars, but they are not generally called Maquis. I think it should be removed, or rewritten to establish the relationship.Bruno talk 19:07, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
@Luizpuodzius:
[edit]O q vc acha de mudar o título para antifa (France)? att 2804:14C:5BB3:A319:89AF:D42A:7A14:FF5C (talk) 12:49, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Great idea; but impossible. Dr. LooTalk to me 21:23, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Source of typo in quote?
[edit]Currently there appears to be a typo in the quote from the H. R. Kedward article on the origins of the word in French - "being pursued by people with and intent to arrest or kill". I presume the intended phrase was "with an intent". Is anyone in a position to check the source material and see whether the typo was introduced into Wikipedia (and therefore correct it), or whether the typo was present in the source article (and thus perhaps add a "[sic]")? --134.134.139.72 (talk) 09:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Ay yi yi, the plot thickens.... Looking at 09:29, 4 September 2018, it looks like this may not have been part of the quote at all, but mistakenly added and subsequently edited inside the blockquote section, all anonymously from IP addresses (darn those sneaky non-logged-in people).... I've rearranged the later contributions so as to restore the apparent original quote, and made some attempt to clean up the sentence structure somewhat (of the later contribs). --134.134.139.72 (talk) 10:35, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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Spain
[edit]Spanish republican exilees, many with 3 years of war experience, were, at least in southern france, the basis of any cells, and the ones training others on guerrilla (spanish word) tactics. When those same antifascist guerrilla-men returned to Spain, willing to fight Franco, they dubbed themselves as "maquis". French authors often wont speak about this, but those men's memories are there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Maquis even the article speaks about this.
i wouldnt made a single comment if there was more than literally ONE mention about this.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.53.113.209 (talk • contribs)
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