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Kris Tyson article?

Should we make a Wikipedia article for Kris/Chris Tyson? HiGuys69420 (talk) 08:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The results of a previous discussion was to merge that article with this one. Originalcola (talk) 18:46, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But that was a while back when Tyson had less publicity. Now there's a bunch of articles about that person and I think a rediscussion is due. Pyraminxsolver (talk) 04:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yea we definitely need to discuss if Kris gets an article or not HiGuys69420 (talk) 03:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

an article is warranted for tyson, the old ruling is outdated and not enforceable. he is all over the news currently, one of the biggest stories in the world. higuys if you want you can definitely make an article NotQualified (talk) 18:37, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I back this. The Ava Kris Tyson allegations (predatory behavior) could be classified as something separate to Jimmy Donaldson's. The allegations against her were generally directed at her, Donaldson simply had to deal with it as an agency backing Tyson (which ended up with her leaving Donaldson's company). The main article should be on her page, not Donaldson's. Faiiwastaken (talk) 07:14, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think Ava deserves her own article at this point given how several sources and news articles have covered her with her as the focus and only mentioning MrBeast in passing. Turtletennisfogwheat (talk) 21:54, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the available sources now, it would make sense to create the article. There is also a lot in the allegations subsection on here that would rather belong into the article of Tyson. It is too detailed for this article, but since there is no other place to add it, it is on here.Vestigium Leonis (talk) 08:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a draft at Draft:Kris Tyson waiting for review. If you guys could help, that will be greatly appreciated. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 20:09, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MrBeast signature

Investigating the source of the signature and taking recent allegations into account. It seems likely that the signature could be fake.

It should probably be removed or replaced with a confirmed signature. 2001:9B1:26FB:6500:F273:4551:70FA:DF97 (talk) 16:40, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DogPack's videos haven't reached journalists that much yet. I would say WP:TOOSOON, we could dispute this once his latest video is reported on by the news. 71.143.223.97 (talk) 11:35, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

some unsorted references in case editors decide to add the recent controversy

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/01/us/mr-beast-youtube-inappropriate-language.html https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/streamers/news-former-mrbeast-employee-dogpack404-served-cease-desist-letter-days-releasing-video-calling-youtuber-fraud https://www.polygon.com/24211562/mrbeast-recent-controversies-ava-kris-tyson-fraud-video-beast-games https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/a/brad-callas/mrbeast-employee-debunks-fraud-allegations-former-worker https://futurism.com/the-byte/allegations-mrbeast-contest https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/streamers/news-participant-won-1-million-defends-mrbeast-former-employee-claims https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/streamers/news-former-mrbeast-employee-dogpack404-served-cease-desist-letter-days-releasing-video-calling-youtuber-fraud 71.143.223.97 (talk) 11:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DogPack404

So assuming that the previous conversation has been closed due to it mainly derailing to talking about aspersion as well as HumansRightsIsCool seemingly deciding to abstain from further comments regarding this, I'd like to open up a new discussion regarding the inclusion of his username within the overall contents of the article as the arguments for his exclusion are quite weak when you take into consideration that "DogPack404" is an username with WP:BLPNAME as the contents of the section aren't exactly applicable towards a handle that has literally been described by the sourced Polygon article as being an anonymous handle. Maybe I just didn't understand it all but if this is the only reason why his name has been excluded from the article, then I'm not exactly convinced. SuperSkaterDude45 (discusión) 08:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Polygon article mentions his handle/username but still primarily focuses on and refers to him as an anonymous source. This seems to be the case in most of the news coverage I could find, which is probably why it was not included initially. I'm not sure why WP:BLPNAME would apply to a username, but to me it's inclusion seems trivial and ultimately doesn't add or remove anything to the article or the allegations and could serve; the important thing is that they are an anonymous MrBeast employee. Originalcola (talk) 11:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Originalcola: I'd agree if it weren't for how ever since the Chris Tyson incident, several former employees or at the very least people involved with Mr. Beast have come forward with their own set of accusations within the same general time frame with the current wording being considerably ambiguous such as the following: On the same day, one of Donaldson's former employees released a YouTube video accusing Donaldson of rigging contests, running illegal lotteries, and deceiving his fans. Sure, DogPack is the biggest figure involved in these allegations, but we shouldn't assume the average reader already knows about information that isn't as trivial as some would like to portray it, especially as again, DogPack is an alias and not his actual legal name. Another point of contention is how similar arguments have been brought up by other YouTubers and employees before and after July 2024 as well as topics such as the Beast Games incident being brought up by other employees of Mr. Beast. SuperSkaterDude45 (discusión) 02:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The existence of other allegations or him being the biggest figure involved, whatever the veracity of these claims, do not necessarily constitute an argument for the inclusion of the username Dogpack404. That was what I was commenting on as that was what you mentioned and was the topic of the previous discussion, nothing else. If you want to add other allegations, make sure to follow Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons and to give them due weight. Originalcola (talk) 08:31, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Originalcola: The other allegations are already mentioned in the article itself with sources. Once again, the existing wording is needlessly vague when you consider that existing references use his username and that other highly edited articles on Wikipedia tend to include government names of individuals involved in either bringing light to allegations or in some controversy in relation to public figures so again, I'm failing to see a valid reason over the omission of an anonymous handle that reliable sources already use when it comes to descriptions. SuperSkaterDude45 (discusión) 07:38, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should Mack be added as a Current Member of the MrBeast crew?

It seems like he is one. If someone finds anything that suggests he is a member of the crew, please provide that. Master106 (talk) 02:42, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delware

@HiGuys69420: Including Delaware's alias is an unnecessary break in flow imo. Considering that the offender has only been mentioned once in one sentence so far, including the fact that he's called Delaware makes the sentence sound pretty weird when you read it.

In a second video, the uploader interviewed another former employee who described poor working conditions, as well as Donaldson hiring a registered sex offender, "Delaware", who was charged with... TheWikiToby (talk) 17:36, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ok HiGuys69420 (talk) 19:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the article, it appears that is his name, not an online handle or an alias which adds further weight to this argument as per WP:BLPNAME. Originalcola (talk) 12:04, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]