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According to ISO-639-3 this is a dialect not a language of Pitcairn. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 09:21, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do we know this and Pitkern aren't just dialects of English? For example, something like British English or some of its odder variants. I wonder if the two could be compared to Scots...? 204.52.215.107 (talk) 20:21, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All languages are dialects of other languages. The question is, which dialect is the correct one. The answer of course depends on which dialect's speakers have the army and navy. Hence why Norwegians spoke Danish until gaining independence (and by default recognition of their "Danish dialects" as Norwegian!) 92.235.178.44 (talk) 11:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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you cannot be serious

How is mispronunciation and poor grammar a langauge? Ridiculous to the point of idiocyStarstylers (talk) 18:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In afrikaans you say "I is" instead of "I am"! Thus it could be claimed that poor Dutch grammar is demonstrated when Afrikaans is being spoken, but the Afrikaans speaker's aim is not to use the grammar of another language. 92.235.178.44 (talk) 11:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not "mispronunciation", it's just misspelling. Honestly, there are plenty of English accents or dialects in which "them" would be pronounced how I would pronounce "dem", but they still write it as "them" because they're familiar with literary English. Having looked at the Norfuk Wikipedia, it seems to me that Norfuk is just English written phonemically (or somewhat phonemically) for a Norfolk Island accent with a few slang words specific to Norfolk Island. saɪm duʃan Talk|Contribs 02:51, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arabic influence?

I'm not going to go into the language thing (despite being able to understand most of it written, but there is an interesting claim on the Pitcairnese wikipedia:

"Mani word i' Norfuk a' f' Erabek, liik "shuga" an "koton," an mani word a' f' Inglish, liik "ailen" an "tiemsoen."

In case you couldn't understand that, it says "Many words in Norfolk are from Arabic, like 'shuga' and 'koton' and many words are from English, like 'ailen' [island] and 'tiemsoen' [timezone]."

http://pih.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfuk

--MacRusgail (talk) 16:09, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't real direct Arabic influence. Norfuk got the words "shuga" and "koton" from English "sugar" and "cotton", which in turn came from Arabic "sukkar" and "qutn". Mo-Al (talk) 18:42, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, that's interesting. I didn't even know these meant "sugar" and "cotton".--MacRusgail (talk) 22:42, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Formatting text

What is the best option for formatting text in this language/dialect/whatever? The ones I currently know of are:

Plain italics, as is used for English dialects
{{lang|pih-NF}}: an IETF tag that basically means "Pitkern-Norfuk as spoken on Norfuk Island"
{{lang|mis}}: for languages that are independent but lack codes

Glades12 (talk) 05:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]