Talk:O.N.I.F.C.

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Edit request on 5 December 2012

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Andrew "Pop" Wansel produced "Fall Asleep" & "Stackin'" Rico Love also produced "Up In It"

Zgold727 (talk) 00:20, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. gwickwire^talk_edits 01:22, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I bought the album and have the booklet... Stackin features Juicy J as well, Cardo is not the producer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.152.243.170 (talk) 20:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tweets from producer Andrew "Pop" Wansel (Producer of Fall Asleep & Stackin') Pop Wansel ‏@PopWansel “@Rayintosh: @PopWansel @Oakwud @Flippa123 Fall asleep is so fuxkin Dope yo!” <----- SAY IT AGAIN!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.152.243.170 (talk) 20:54, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pop Wansel ‏@PopWansel: Fall Asleep and Stackin'!!! #ONIFC [1] goto December 4th, thats where he says it

I am sitting here with the ONIFC tracklisting right in front of me. Will.I.Am had nothing to do with the track "No Limit." The producers should say just Nice Rec and I.D. Labs. I have a page that was scanned for proof. Since it looks like the tracklisting on this page is uncredited, this should take precedence. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/20121210145950.jpg/ Jdotpitts (talk) 20:09, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done STATic message me! 20:58, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of sourced material

Koala15 is being an irrational pain and continues to make poorly thought out edit summaries while removing the SOURCED genre that is in the infobox, "pop rap". First he assumed that there's some policy that we should generalize genres ([2]), then he attempts to discredit music critics as appropriate sources for this piece of information ([3]) but does not offer anything supporting his preferred "hip hop", and now he's erroneously assuming "pop rap" was taken from Allmusic ([4]). He should go through the article's edit history where he'll see this was clearly explained--"pop rap" is cited in #Critical reception. He also thinks the burden is on me to start a discussion rather than him, who is initiating the removal of something that's clearly sourced. SMH. Dan56 (talk) 22:57, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So David Amidon of PopMatters is your source? By him saying "as pop rap albums go, O.N.I.F.C. is beyond solid, full of immaculate production and airtight if simplistic rhymes about money, girls and weed." That is the deciding factor i mean really, reviewers get facts wrong all the time so one guy calling the album a "pop rap" album makes it a pop rap album? I mean calling an album "pop rap" is quite a subjective thing to do, i mean to generalize it best its a hip hop album that's it not "pop rap". Koala15 (talk) 23:49, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SUBJECTIVE. You said at my talk page that you're not new here, yet you seem to think infobox genres are based on consensus rather than cited interpretations (not facts) of a creative work from relevant sources. Dan56 (talk) 03:11, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Calling the genre "pop rap" is WP:SUBJECTIVE, and besides the one review i haven't seen anyone call the album "pop rap" even Itunes has the genres listed as "Hip-Hop/Rap, Music, Rap, East Coast Rap, Hardcore Rap" which would be way off from "pop rap". Koala15 (talk) 04:45, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you could try to read WP:SUBJECTIVE (I wasn't using it as an adjective, it is a policy... that I linked). "Articles should provide an overview of the common interpretations of a creative work, preferably with citations to notable individuals holding that interpretation. Verifiable public and scholarly critiques provide useful context for works of art." An digital music retailer qualifies as a professional critique to you? Dan56 (talk) 14:06, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I read it and it didn't really have anything to do with this situation it doesn't say "if one reviewer calls the album a genre it is that genre no question". Koala15 (talk) 14:46, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]