Template:Did you know nominations/Ted Decker

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 04:56, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Ted Decker

Created by Pbritti (talk). Self-nominated at 17:18, 27 August 2022 (UTC).

  • The article is a redirect at present, so it's pretty clearly not eligible for DYK. If that changes I will do a full review. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:09, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
@Trainsandotherthings: Thanks for the heads up; an editor blanked the page to a redirect outside of the normal procedures. ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:27, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Okay, I can't say I fully disagree with the concerns about notability, but that's not for DYK to assess. Full review:
The article is new enough, just barely long enough (1549 characters), and I don't see any policy violations. I didn't get any hits with an Earwig check. QPQ is done. However, the hook is not interesting at all. List of College of William & Mary alumni says the college has "more than 94,000 living alumni". How is this person being a graduate of a university where some past presidents graduated from interesting to a broad audience? That information is not in the article either. I'm gonna be frank with you, there's nothing in this article that's interesting enough for a DYK hook right now. You'd have to expand it to find something worthy of a hook. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:37, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
@Trainsandotherthings: Thanks for the review! I would encourage you to express those concerns on the new AfD; unfortunately, there has been very little input in many recent AfDs and even if I disagree it means we can have more insight. ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:54, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
I feel that, as reviewer here, my participating in the AfD would compromise my impartiality. I haven't looked into the subject enough to determine if he's notable, and I usually limit my AfD participation to areas I have some familiarity with. If the article is kept, we can still move forward with this nomination, though again I'd encourage you to find something more interesting for hook material. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:57, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Agree on the hook; I'll ping you if we end up being in a position where a next step is possible! Also, no need to explain–never a requirement to participate in an AfD and I'm glad you have set standards for yourself! Thanks for your promptness and comprehensive helpfulness; ping me on my talk page if you have questions. ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:10, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
@Trainsandotherthings: First off, I would like to thank Cullen328 and DigitalIceAge–among a couple helpful others–for their help in expanding the article and making sure that the AfD could focus on a fully expanded article. Now that the AfD has ended with the result of keep, I wanted to submit a new alt hook with this as a source:
  • ALT1: ... that, before becoming the president and CEO of The Home Depot, Ted Decker started mowing at age 8 and was managing a landscaping business by high school?

When you have the chance to review this hook, please let me know! I can also request another editor if this process has run too long for you already (I understand that it's been a few days and this was not DYK experience you anticipated). Thanks! ~ Pbritti (talk) 00:46, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Wow, that's a major improvement compared to the original hook. I think that's definitely main page worthy. Happy to approve ALT1, as it is cited in the article and I see no policy issues with the article or hook. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 00:51, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
I want to suggest a slight modification, adding "lawns" for clarity: ... that, before becoming the president and CEO of The Home Depot, Ted Decker started mowing lawns at age 8 and was managing a landscaping business by high school? Cullen328 (talk) 01:03, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
That works for me. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 22:45, 30 August 2022 (UTC)