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[edit]Greetings and salutations. I have a question about this edit. Along what lines? Warm regards, Kire1975 (talk) 13:13, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Kire1975: The relevant section of the cited source says:
I can think back to all of the articles I’ve read, all the things I’ve seen said about how complicated and how complex the situation is and the occupation is. It’s complex, it’s complicated. And it’s made to sound as though you need a degree in Middle Eastern studies or some such, a Ph.D., to really understand what’s happening. But I understood the first day.
- To me that's more about the way that the subject is often talked about, in the writer's view, rather than a single cliched phrase that might be deployed in isolation to shut down an argument. I'd agree that "it's complicated" could be used as a thought-terminating cliche, but this doesn't seem a strong enough source to make that statement. Belbury (talk) 13:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Ghosts actors
[edit]Personally I think British is less controversial in terms of nationality, it's just that I feel the change was motivated by something other than "There's no such thing as an English passport"... Rankersbo (talk) 09:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Rankersbo: Yes, the IP gave their rationale here as
The english people are an ethnic group native to england, she is black, and her parents are nigerian. So obviously not english
- Turns out there's a whole essay on this at Wikipedia:Nationality of people from the United Kingdom for biographies where it's contested or significant, but in these cases I don't think it is. Belbury (talk) 10:28, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah that comment did spell it out. Rankersbo (talk) 10:59, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Liza Tarbuck education
[edit]Hi there - I understand the need for references for Wikipedia pages for people very much in the public domain. However, I was at school with Liza, so that's all I have as a reference. I wasn't aware that this is the sort of information that requires a reference, and I am not sure one could be provided, but do let me know what I might be able to do to find one. Thanks. Stwheel1 (talk) 11:16, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Stwheel1 Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from on this! I'm afraid Wikipedia can't use that kind of personal knowledge in its articles, even when it's true - everything written here is expected to rest on a bedrock of Wikipedia:Verifiability. If Tarbuck has never mentioned the school in any books or interviews, Wikipedia can't mention it either. Belbury (talk) 11:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Completely understand. OK - I'll search for such a reference, and leave things as they are unless I find one. Stwheel1 (talk) 12:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Listenbourg
[edit]Hi ! I am French and I have participated in the lore of pasy since its creation, in 2 years the information has been reviewed and according to all the existing discord servers, the population is 78 million people, can I modify this? (As well as the president of the country who is no longer a Gaspardo who resigned more than a year ago.) Lemurien321 (talk) 10:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Lemurien321: Probably not per WP:SELFSOURCE. The Wikipedia article is really a record of the Listenbourg meme at its height rather than a mirror of whatever's happening on the fan sites - if five years from now the Discord has been dwindled to a handful of users, is Wikipedia going to keep recording their latest statements about the country?
- The article already written in the past tense as
The population was said to be 59 million
and that Gaspardowas proclaimed president of Listenbourg
, so I think it works. Belbury (talk) 10:51, 5 July 2024 (UTC)- Je comprends où tu veux en venir mais ces modifications anécdotiques ont été réalisés à peine quelques mois apres le sébut du lore, nous sommes de plus en plus dans ce rp arrivant à 334 sur un serveur discord (on en compte une dizaine en tout) je comprends ton point de vue mais nous sommes 334 et cette modification est ancienne.
- De plus, les pages wikipédia se doivent d'etre exact et ne pas modifier cela serait contraire au règlement de wikipédia. Lemurien321 (talk) 10:57, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'd suggest raising this on Talk:Listenbourg and in English, but I think it's going to be hard to argue that post-meme-peak activity on fan forums belongs in the article when no WP:SECONDARY source is interested in documenting it. Belbury (talk) 11:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can we really say that this is post-meme activity? The initiators of this project are still with us. The French press article invented this number of inhabitants which is contrary to the wishes of the creator and the fans. Lemurien321 (talk) 11:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- If there hasn't been any press coverage of it since 2022 there's not a lot new that we can say about it now. I assume the French press took the figure from somewhere on social media at the time. Belbury (talk) 11:12, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Is this a reason not to modify the article? we don't talk about thousands of Wikipedia pages every day, yet when they are incorrect we correct them Lemurien321 (talk) 11:51, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'd suggest posting to Talk:Listenbourg saying specifically what you think should be included or changed, to get some broader feedback on this. Belbury (talk) 15:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Is this a reason not to modify the article? we don't talk about thousands of Wikipedia pages every day, yet when they are incorrect we correct them Lemurien321 (talk) 11:51, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- If there hasn't been any press coverage of it since 2022 there's not a lot new that we can say about it now. I assume the French press took the figure from somewhere on social media at the time. Belbury (talk) 11:12, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can we really say that this is post-meme activity? The initiators of this project are still with us. The French press article invented this number of inhabitants which is contrary to the wishes of the creator and the fans. Lemurien321 (talk) 11:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'd suggest raising this on Talk:Listenbourg and in English, but I think it's going to be hard to argue that post-meme-peak activity on fan forums belongs in the article when no WP:SECONDARY source is interested in documenting it. Belbury (talk) 11:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- And also, Gaspardo himself resigned and I say to myself that it would be fun to update the Wikipedia page given that it is in itself a page about a subjective and non-existent thing :) thank you very much for reading! Lemurien321 (talk) 11:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Your template message
[edit]U made a message on my homepage, and I think you made a mistake. I have edited Wikipedia since yesterday and have never edited here before. I actually started edited what I did from the UK election page coz I thought it was out of date. Sorry if I caused problems.
Warm wishes 2A0A:EF40:E4A:E101:6DC6:9BD0:863B:BB00 (talk) 11:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- im wondering if you can revert my edits or I can? 2A0A:EF40:E4A:E101:6DC6:9BD0:863B:BB00 (talk) 12:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- One second, let me open an SPI for you. Belbury (talk) 12:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'm not sure what that means though 2A0A:EF40:E4A:E101:6DC6:9BD0:863B:BB00 (talk) 12:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- One second, let me open an SPI for you. Belbury (talk) 12:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Care drain - Technical template
[edit]Hello! I have recently finished polishing the Care drain article and I am wondering if it has resolved the issue(s) with technical language you found? Thank you! Kindly, Pinecone23 (talk) 17:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Pinecone23 Great job, that's much clearer! I'll remove the template myself. Belbury (talk) 17:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! :-) Pinecone23 (talk) 17:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Block evasion
[edit]Who is the original blocked account you reverted at Transport in the United Kingdom? I hate sockpuppetry! 10mmsocket (talk) 16:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- @10mmsocket It's Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lam312321321. Belbury (talk) 16:20, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I thought it was familiar. Keep up the good work! 10mmsocket (talk) 16:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
2.64
[edit]My problem with the 2.64 subjects is it doesn't really make much sense. The standard for A-Level is 3 subjects. 2A0A:EF40:EFE:5801:A582:24C0:B867:14DD (talk) 13:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Regarding your readding of the Facebook lawsuit content, I actually had moved it over to Instant messaging#Security and archiving thinking it is better suited there. Just letting you know but I won't object it in Private Message if you think that's right. Sucrehypsy (talk) 19:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Sucrehypsy Oh, I see. Maybe it belongs in both places? That the lawsuit makes specific reference to the fact that the service was misleadingly
representing to users that the content of Facebook messages is 'private'
seems like a significant angle on the whole concept of any web service that has a feature with that adjective. Belbury (talk) 19:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Maccus
[edit]A little help: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=maccus It's no problem if you haven't seen the movie. But the fact that you cannot use Google is. XXLVenom999 (talk) 14:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- @XXLVenom999 No need to, it's a WP:DABRELATED issue:
Include articles only if the term being disambiguated is actually described in the target article.
- I checked List of Pirates of the Caribbean characters and he's not mentioned there either. Belbury (talk) 14:41, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- If he is not mentioned, it's not his fault, but the fault of those who haven't added him yet. Considering he is the second in command/first mate of Davy Jones, the main antagonist of the 2nd and 3rd movie, it would be hard to say he is not notable, or a minor character. But whatever. XXLVenom999 (talk) 14:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- @XXLVenom999 Sure, okay. I'm not saying anything about whether I think he's notable or minor, just how WP:DABRELATED works. I am not ... blaming the fictional character himself for this? Belbury (talk) 14:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know how that guideline works, I'm not too familiar here, I mainly edit on my native Wiki. I just thought a character who appeared in a popular franchise and who comes to mind of people when hearing that name 9 out of 10 times is worth mentioning. But if not, that's okay. XXLVenom999 (talk) 15:39, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- @XXLVenom999 Sure, okay. I'm not saying anything about whether I think he's notable or minor, just how WP:DABRELATED works. I am not ... blaming the fictional character himself for this? Belbury (talk) 14:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- If he is not mentioned, it's not his fault, but the fault of those who haven't added him yet. Considering he is the second in command/first mate of Davy Jones, the main antagonist of the 2nd and 3rd movie, it would be hard to say he is not notable, or a minor character. But whatever. XXLVenom999 (talk) 14:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Consensus
[edit]I am sure you are editing in good faith, but when two editors disagree, an article or template must stay at the status quo. The burden to show a consensus for change falls to the editor who wants to make that change. You have not shown a consensus, so the template stays as it was. See WP:BRD. As long at it is only you who is advocating for a change, the dissent of a single editor is enough to block that change. Skyerise (talk) 19:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyerise: I'd assumed that the discussion at Template talk:New Age beliefs sidebar had failed, with no response in a month. I hadn't restored my preferred image, which you'd objected to, I'd only removed the one which I'd questioned the usage of and which you hadn't given any comment on. Belbury (talk) 10:49, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- How does that matter? You haven't shown a consensus for change, so the template doesn't get changed. That's not really hard to understand. Skyerise (talk) 11:09, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyerise: Removing the Rainbow Family photo and leaving the navbox with no image is a separate question, which I raised a month ago and you hadn't given a view on. If my removing the photo has started a new round of WP:BRD, that's all good, but please do say what you think about it. Belbury (talk) 11:21, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think there is a problem with the image; as I said before, I am open to the idea that there is a better image, but it's up to you to propose one that I agree with. You can also go to WP:3O or start an RfC if you like. Skyerise (talk) 11:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyerise: Removing the Rainbow Family photo and leaving the navbox with no image is a separate question, which I raised a month ago and you hadn't given a view on. If my removing the photo has started a new round of WP:BRD, that's all good, but please do say what you think about it. Belbury (talk) 11:21, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- How does that matter? You haven't shown a consensus for change, so the template doesn't get changed. That's not really hard to understand. Skyerise (talk) 11:09, 17 August 2024 (UTC)