User talk:CharlesWain
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[edit]I see Dear Debasish has after repeated urging chosen not to make a formal unblock request, and is instead attacking an opponent. DD, your next post on this page ought to be a response to this question of mine. If instead you continue to attack others, I will remove your access to editing this page. Ekdalian, I ask you kindly to please stop posting here. Bishonen | tålk 19:10, 19 August 2021 (UTC).
- I have edited the disputed article a couple of times recently. Ekdalian posted on my talk page. I ignored both the talk page message and the article. But later I found out I have been blocked without giving warning. Look I use Wikipedia for reading articles, not to edit it. You may keep the blocks for 6 days more, If you think I have been engaged in edit warring. But please check with the IP address and the account, before accusing me of abusing multiple accounts. My earnest request to you Bishonen to remove assumptive accusation of using sock to abuse from my talk page. I have no history like that. You may keep the block if you think that's necessary. Please consider that. Dear Debasish (talk) 20:28, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- I have not blocked before. I don't know how to put formal unblock request. But if you know how to remove inappropriate input from my talk page or there is procedure for formally putting request, please let me know @Bishonen . Dear Debasish (talk) 20:35, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- I asked you before: "Would you like me to put what you say above into the unblock template for you?" That is, what you said here. I'm sorry, I don't know how to put it any more clearly. Would you like me to put what you said here into the unblock template, so that it becomes a formal unblock request? All you have to say is yes or no. Or would you perhaps like to write some other text, below, that you want to be your formal unblock request? If you do, please put quote marks round it so that I'm sure exactly what text it is you want me to make into a formal unblock request. Bishonen | tålk 20:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC).
- I think I am unable to make my point clearly. As I told in my previous post - "No" I can't and also don't want to put formal unblock request. But if it's possible, please remove the part where you're accusing me of "abusing multiple accounts" to block me from my talk page, but you can keep the block citing "edit warring" reason, if that's what it is. And If it's not possible, please ignore. Dear Debasish (talk) 21:49, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- DD, you're free to remove what you wish from your talkpage yourself. Not to change other people's posts, but to remove them. That means you can remove the whole of my block notice, and any other post or discussion here, but not part of my block notice. Bishonen | tålk 07:41, 20 August 2021 (UTC).
- I think I am unable to make my point clearly. As I told in my previous post - "No" I can't and also don't want to put formal unblock request. But if it's possible, please remove the part where you're accusing me of "abusing multiple accounts" to block me from my talk page, but you can keep the block citing "edit warring" reason, if that's what it is. And If it's not possible, please ignore. Dear Debasish (talk) 21:49, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know that I can edit my talk page. As you see It's obvious I have edited the disputed page a couple of times. But you have also agreed to the assumptive accusation of that confirmed user of using IP address and sock. will you please let me know how can you term it "obvious"? It's clear to me that you haven't checked or can't check technically whether two accounts or an account and IP address are related or not. Probably You have just deduced it. Isn't It? Am I wrong about that? I think If I put formal unblock request, no other admin can unblock me without first consulting you. So my request would go in vain if you're not convinced. So I have chosen not to put request. But if there's is any way available to admins to check technically whether two accounts or IP address are related or not without zero chance of mistake. I will put formal request. Please let me know. Thank you.
Dear Debasish (talk) 10:32, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- You are correct that I can't check technically. Only CheckUsers can. Other admins can only block per WP:DUCK. However, it seems a little meaningless to ask a CheckUser in this case, since WP:MEAT also applies; meaning that it also counts as sock puppetry to ask another person or persons to support your edits. So it's never with zero chance of mistake. But since you insist on your innocence, I have asked a CheckUser privately. You may hear from them. Bishonen | tålk 16:34, 20 August 2021 (UTC).
Yes, I have repeatedly denied charge of sock and meat puppetry . Neither I have abused multiple accounts nor anyone. I have just edited a couple of times but haven't disobeyed warning. Thank you for asking the check-User to check. Dear Debasish (talk) 17:05, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
I also totally support for taking strict action against the accounts who use inappropriate language to attack others. Check their IP too to take strict action. That cannot be tolerated. Dear Debasish (talk) 17:11, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- I've heard from the CheckUser, who found the account Hakka noodle patty, which supported you at Mahishya, to be a sock of a different user, Waked Bold Ambushed. I retain some suspicion of meatpuppetry. But it's only a suspicion at this stage, and I have unblocked you, with a note in the block log that I'm withdrawing the accusation of sock puppetry (though not of persistent insertion of unsourced content; please don't do that again). Happy editing, Dear Debasish! Bishonen | tålk 21:05, 20 August 2021 (UTC).
Well, I have openly and repeatedly told you to involve check-User and take action against the sock and IP involved. I wonder how can you have any suspicion anymore. I have also told before I don't support abusing like that. And as for persistent editing I am asserting whatever content I have added by reverting is in my good knowledge and I've added in good faith. This content was there for a long time and there was a source in introduction section too for long. Multiple senior editors and even admin came in between but that section were untouched by them. I will consider adding that again If I find proper source.It would have been nice if I was given reasonable opportunity of being heard before taking action against me based on accusation and suspicion. Thank you Bishonen. Regards, Dear Debasish (talk) 08:09, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Soma Mondal moved to draftspace
[edit]An article you recently created, Soma Mondal, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
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I have already given two reliable and verifiable sources. Should I add more website links? Because there are many articles on her on different websites. Dear Debasish (talk) 08:00, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, DMySon I have added more independent reliable sources. And added contents too. Please review and consider . Thank you. Dear Debasish (talk) 16:08, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
September 2021
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My edits are sufficiently explained and I opened talk page discussion before you sent me this. Dear Debasish (talk) 09:43, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- Dear Debasish, please indent your replies with colons to make talkpages more readable for others, thank you. If you look at edit mode, you will see how other people do it. And while you have opened a talkpage discussion, it's not a discussion of your reverts. Do please discuss instead of edit warring. Discussion in edit summaries is not enough. Bishonen | tålk 12:20, 23 September 2021 (UTC).
Thank you Bishonen for your suggestion. I want to raise two issues- 1. Bengali Brahmin article has been allowed to stay with traditional accounts and without proper citations for long. 2. Two non-brahmin 'higher caste' articles have been provided with wikilinks of bengali brahmin. I have checked other brahmin and higher castes' and dominant castes' articles of other states of India, No such wikilinks of current distinct castes have been given in lead sections. Apparently some kayastha and Baidya are cunningly doing POV push.
The behaviour of certain confirmed users are very discouraging to initiate any type of changes and improvements. Thank you ! Dear Debasish (talk) 12:00, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- I link again to WP:indent, since you ignored my first suggestion. Bishonen | tålk 15:27, 24 September 2021 (UTC).
- Sorry Bishonen . I was unable to understand your suggestion. I am unaware of many technicalities. Is it alright now?
What do you think about the issues raised above? Thanks and regards Dear Debasish (talk) 16:05, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- I think I am gradually getting WP:indent thing. Bishonen thank you.Dear Debasish (talk) 16:42, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Weel.. you add one colon for each reply; thus, if my post has one colon, your next reply should have two colons, and so on. This creates a pleasing "staircase" which makes it easy to see at a glance where one person's comment stops and another's starts. As for your points above, sorry, I haven't the time to study that article in any depth. Just remember the main point of the warning you received: don't edit war even if you're sure you're right. As you can see, there can be different opinions about it. Bishonen | tålk 17:06, 24 September 2021 (UTC).
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- @Fade258: I have added two more sources. It is clear that the subject easily meets WP:GNG. Can you review again? Dear Debasish (talk) 17:14, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, I will review. Thank you! Fade258 (talk) 00:38, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Fade258: Reminding you again. Dear Debasish (talk) 07:27, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- At first you have to submit your draft again then I will review it. Thank you! Fade258 (talk) 08:43, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
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Rusalkii (talk) 04:01, 24 December 2021 (UTC)- Thank you. I am glad I am able to make little contributions to expand the scope of Wikipedia. I will try making quality contributions in future too. Thanks again !Dear Debasish (talk) 16:52, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
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Copying from book by R. C. Majumdar
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Please explain why Saradananda, 1978 is insufficiently reliable source on Ramakrishna article
[edit]Hello,
You made an edit saying Saradananda, Swami (1978). Sri Ramakrishna, the great master is an insufficiently reliable source. Could you please explain? As far I know, this is one of the primary sources of information on Ramakrishna being written by his direct disciple. RamasSquirrel (talk) 10:27, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hey RamasSquirrel, please read WP:Primary.CharlesWain (talk) 15:41, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks.
- Just read it. The usage in Ramakrishna article from the primary source is straightforward and doesn't depend on any analysis, interpretation etc. In that case, it's use is not against the policy. Do you feel otherwise? RamasSquirrel (talk) 08:32, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- What are you proposing or planning to add, RamasSquirrel?CharlesWain (talk) 12:17, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- In another vision following Ramakrishna's birth, his mother saw a strange tall person lying in the bed instead of the baby Ramakrishna.[better source needed]
- The above line was added by me and you had added the 'better source needed' comment regarding the source of this line, which is Sri Ramakrishna the Great Master (1978). So I wanted to understand the reason behind the comment. RamasSquirrel (talk) 08:43, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- What are you proposing or planning to add, RamasSquirrel?CharlesWain (talk) 12:17, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
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To Check the mistakes in Hare Krishna Konar
[edit]I am new to Wikipedia but know many facts about Hare Krishna Konar and want to recorrect the article of Hare Krishna Konar but I am unable to do it, so can you please check grammatical or other mistakes in that article please do the needfulls. Privetwik (talk) 17:51, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- Privetwik, whenever you add contents, please give citations. The article has multiple issues - grammar, spelling, sentence structure etc. A large part of the article is unsourced, and the style of writing in many sections doesn't suit encyclopaedia. I will work later.You make correct the mistakes and improve the article, if you want.CharlesWain (talk) 18:22, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- Ok! Thank You very much to you. Privetwik (talk) 18:44, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]According to Vyas Smriti Kayasthas are shudra. NIRANJAN CHATTERJEE (talk) 07:41, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
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