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Hello Dunkleosteus77

Hello Dunkleosteus77. I should have introduced myself yesterday, but was still finding my way around Wikipedia editing. Thankyou for fixing those link issues. I am unsure as to your comment "that is not what Wikipedia is for" and I have no wish to enter into a changing each other's edits 'game', but I need to clarify that I was asked by the Society for Marine Mammalogy Education Committee, along with a team of marine mammal researchers to update and maintain species pages. That is not to say that your previous work is unappreciated, but the edits I have made follow the format requested by the SMM Education Committee and were published only after review by an expert on the species (in this case, Dr Robin Baird from Cascadia Research). I would hope that you can see the amount of work that has gone into making sure the info is current, accurate and reflects the important literature published on MHWs, not just by myself, but also Dr Baird and the Education Commitee. Best wishes, VickihamiltonVickihamilton (talk) 07:26, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Vickihamilton: I know who you're affiliated with and you've added a lot of good information, but Wikipedia is not TripAdvisor, we don't say things like "it is important to choose a company that follows responsible whale watching guidelines". Giving out instructions for how to have a fantastic trip to Dominica is not what we're about   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  15:59, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Vickihamilton: so I'm going to delete it again. If you're adamant about it's inclusion, we can discuss further on the article's talk page and get other inputs   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  23:52, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Dunkleosteus77: I am sorry if you have misunderstood the intent. Advising someone who has consulted Wikipedia as a source of info on melon-headed whales, and may want to see them in the wild to "choose a company that follows responsible whale watching guidelines" is broad, general advice, recommended by the Society for Marine Mammalogy and the International Whaling Commission. There are a large number of whale watching operators in the world that do not put the safety and wellbeing of cetaceans foremost, those that do follow guidelines set by an independent authority will obviously be a better option if an informed choice is to be made. If I had mentioned a specific company (in say Dominica to quote your example) now that would be akin to Tripadvisor, and completely inappropriate, we are in agreement on that front. VickihamiltonVickihamilton (talk) 10:07, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Cool page!

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Thank you!Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 01:07, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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Precious

whales and cats

Thank you for quality articles about whales, baleen whales, porpoises (to name a few), for inviting to peer reviews and reviewing GAs, for redirects and the cat-life on your user page, infobox and all, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Truly well-deserved, congrats for the TFA! Sainsf (talk · contribs) 06:24, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

You have the best userpage ever. That is all ;) Opabinia regalis (talk) 06:04, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

A year ago, you were recipient no. 1401 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:45, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for today's Steller's sea cow! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for today's Paleocene, about "the 10 million year period after the dinosaurs went extinct"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:41, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

... four years now --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for making Wikipedia a better encyclopedia! BrightRoundCircle (talk) 14:35, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Steller's sea cow

Brilliant work on this article. You should be very proud! Josh Milburn (talk) 22:36, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

F uyck you. 173.91.69.114 (talk) 23:46, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

For all the work on animals; here's another one!

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Ursus rossicus article

Thanks for creating Ursus rossicus, Dunkleosteus77!

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make sure taxon articles have a valid {{taxobox}} (I've already added one to Ursus rossicus). A quick and easy shortcut is to copy and paste a related taxobox, just changing the specifics. Cheers,

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Also, make sure that sources discussing "cave bears" are actually referring to U. rossicus and not for example Ursus spelaeus, much more widley referred to as "cave bear". I removed the incorrect photos that were of U. spelaeus. lastly, you can group duplicate repeated footnotes of the same source with <ref name=...>.: see WP:REFSTART for more tips on formatting references and citations. Let me know if you have any questions (Wikipedia can be a tricky place at first), and welcome to Wikipedia! --Animalparty-- (talk) 04:08, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

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In view of that, please don't change articles from one version of English to another, even if you don't normally use the version in which the article is written. Respect other people's versions of English. They, in turn, should respect yours. Other general guidelines on how Wikipedia articles are written can be found in the Manual of Style. If you have any questions about this, you can ask me on my talk page or visit the help desk. Thank you. This relates to this edit; could you also not mark edits like this as minor please? --John (talk) 16:40, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Hello John. Earlier you commented on how I changed the British spelling of words to English on the Whales article. I wrote that section that I edited and I accidentally used British English (along with some other errors) when I added it, so I went back and changed it. Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 20:11, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

That's fine, no harm done. The article has been in British English for over ten years, so policy is that we leave it like that. --John (talk) 21:03, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks, I've been meaning to do that, but I've always forgotten. Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 23:18, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

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There are many more than just 8 species of whales. Look at Toothed_whale for the 33 species in that half of Cetacea and Balaenidae, Rorqual, Pygmy_right_whale, and Gray_whale for the rest of the species of whales. I don't think we need a big chart on whale listing all of these. I've reverted your start of this chart. If you really insist, then I strongly suggest you get the chart worked up first in your sandbox first. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

 Done

If you weren't aware that there are two species of minke whale (something that has been recognized for over 15 years) then why are you editing that article? GammaCepheus001 (talk) 02:10, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

I added that entire section originally... Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 15:48, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Did you add it sixteen years ago? GammaCepheus001 (talk) 22:12, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Nevermind. You only added it a couple months ago. That's a little scary. So you weren't aware that there are two species of minke whale or that Omura's whale is a valid species? And you thought the pygmy right whale was considered "extinct" until recently?? Really? That baffles me. GammaCepheus001 (talk) 22:34, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

I looked up "Minke whale", and it just came up with Balaenoptera acutorostrata; I didn't realize minke whale was two species until I looked up "Antarctic minke whales", I looked up Omura's whale (on http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/136623/0) and it said "Omura's whale is not yet recognized by in the IWC..." (Then again, now that I look closely at the references on that page, it dates back to 2003...), and it says on the Wikipedia article "pygmy right whale", "...which until 2012 were thought to be extinct..."; I realize now it meant reclassified... Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 01:58, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

So you googled one, used a badly outdated source for another, and relied on the Wikipedia page for the last one. Did you have any prior knowledge of this subject before editing these articles? GammaCepheus001 (talk) 19:35, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on whales, but I know enough to do a decent job, i suppose. Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 19:41, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

To be completely honest, I googled everything I didn't already know (size, weight, random facts sometimes, binomial name...) Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 01:26, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Well, if you're going to do that please only cite books/websites written by experts or peer-reviewed papers. Whalefacts.org or a wikia of Walking with Dinosaurs aren't the best sources (the latter is like citing another Wikipedia article). GammaCepheus001 (talk) 22:22, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I suppose you're right. While on the subject, what would be an example of a paper written by experts (it would be helpful if it was a website); would sites like NOAA or National Geographic be examples? Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 02:09, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Any paper is going to be written by someone actually studying cetaceans, so that's not really the issue. NOAA is ok but in their species' pages they appear to often cite identification/natural history guides that don't cite any sources themselves (well, Shirihai lacks inline citations and the Audubon guide cites nothing). For example, the Bryde's whale page they have up says they get to 55 ft and 40 tons. The longest Bryde's was only 51 ft and no specimen has ever been weighed anywhere near 40 tons (that's just a made up figure appearing in the 2002 Audubon guide). Nat Geo is normally ok as well but they (or at least their magazine) also has trouble citing sources. Even the ACS species' pages are usually badly outdated or inaccurate. This is why I prefer books and papers (which typically cite extensive sources). GammaCepheus001 (talk) 22:52, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

I think you've done an excellent job with the addition of the species tables to the article. They look great and really add to the content of the page. Happy Editing! Winner 42 Talk to me! 01:05, 18 April 2015 (UTC) Thank you! Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 02:10, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

• I agree, but I would probably say you should get consensus at article talk before doing any more big tables like this for other articles. --John (talk) 20:27, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

LEADCITE & kittens

Do you like kittens? I made this one for you ;)

Re [1]: citations are usually not repeated in the lead per WP:LEADCITE. Cheers! jonkerz ♠talk 00:35, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Wow. That's an hour of my life I'll be needing back... Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 00:37, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Ouch :/ by the way, why did you remove the previous comments you added a couple of hours back ago? Was this on purpose or did you perhaps edit an old revision of the page? Curiously, jonkerz ♠talk 00:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I based my comment on GA criteria; copy/pasted the GA criteria onto the page and made some comments on each one. I meant to delete the criteria list and just keep the comment, but I was in a rush and hit save, meaning to delete the criteria list later (which I did just now). Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 00:57, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I see :) If you're interested in reviewing another ant article you should take a look at the FAC Banded sugar ant. jonkerz ♠talk 01:07, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

If you're interested in reviewing another animal article, you should take a look at Peer Review Whale. Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 02:57, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I've added a few comments. I'll try to find time to read the whole article and return with more comments, if not, then perhaps whenever the article is a GAC, which I hope it will be soon! jonkerz ♠talk 14:06, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your time Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 21:06, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for expanding the article; I can only imagine how much hard work you've put in, well done! I've marked my comments as resolved. jonkerz ♠talk 21:23, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

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Look, it's the reviewer's job to decide if a comment is resolved. The nominator's job is to resolve each item to the best of their ability; the reviewer then decides if indeed the right action has been taken, or whether something more needs to be done. I have—repeatedly—reminded you of this but you're still at it. The article is not going to make it to GA if you keep modifying the taxobox, for example. May I suggest you now apologize, and state here that you accept the process. Thanks.

By the way, that applies a fortiori to the GA Table, where all signoffs are (I hope obviously) only for the reviewer's use. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:06, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello again, I've formatted a lot of refs in the article and fixed a few things. When I noted that the species list was redundant with both the List of cetaceans and the Cetaceans template (at the bottom of the article), I decided that the lists really had to go - sorry about this, but after looking at them every which way, it seems clear they simply aren't needed (and this isn't Cetacea, either) - I suspect the closeness of Whale to that article has caused quite a bit of the difficulty really. Similarly, I've removed some paragraphs about dolphins which may be relevant in Cetacea but don't belong here - at least, if dolphins are whales, then Whale = Cetacea and we need to merge the two articles, which I doubt is what anyone wants.

All that is left is a little bit of history and culture; the history of whaling can be derived from the Whaling and History of whaling articles, while a brief account of whales in art should not be too difficult. You might look at Werness 2006, van der Grijp 2009, Wallace 2004, Kaalund 1983, for example. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:24, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Whale articles

Hello
I have been tracking down edits by User:GammaCepheus001 (who is now banned, and is probably a sockpuppet of User:Jonas Poole who has been banned for a long time) and I notice he left some here. I have been undoing them as they are more than likely to be disruptive, but There were some on the Bryde's whale and Omura's whale pages which I would be pleased if you s could review for me as you will know more about the subject than I do. If I have undone content which is actually worth keeping, please feel free to undo what I have done there. Regards, Xyl 54 (talk) 01:06, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

You were correct to undo his most recent edit on the Bryde's whale page, but the edit he made on January 2, 2015‎ was correct since it's redundant to say "rorquals baleen whales". GammaCepheus001 was right to delete the sentence "notably within Komodo National Park" on Feb 12, 2015. All of his edits on the Omura's whale page was non disruptive and verifiable and should be kept. Glad to help, and good luck! Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 02:27, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

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European whaling in the South Pacific (Part II)

Hey, Dunky. As I said before, European whaling in the South Pacific didn't begin until 1789. American whaleships didn't reach the South Pacific until the early 1790s and British whaleships didn't reach Australia until the early 1790s as well. Read Dakin's Whalemen Adventurers and Colwell's Whaling Around Australia. SplashyHumpback (talk) 01:27, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. Forgot to change that.

No, worries. If you need any help or need to find references for something just post something on User:Grimlock1986's talkpage or whichever one isn't banned. Apparently if I post anything constructive on someone's talkpage it gets deleted by certain simpletons. Oh, well. Good luck. SplashyHumpback (talk) 02:44, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I really need some help with the Conservation section of the Whale article to fit within the GA review suggestions. Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 03:00, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

You could start with talking about Foyn's monopoly off Finnmark in the 1870s and 1880s and the British licenses in the Falkland Island dependencies in the early 1900s to reduce waste. Then you could mention the protection of right and gray whales, cows with calves, in the early 1930s; negotiations in the mid to late-1930s on quotas in the Antarctic; the formation of the IWC in the late 1940s and the use of the BWU (Blue Whale Unit) and why that failed. You could then mention the protection of various species and stocks in the 1960s and onwards; the "Save the Whale" movement in the 1970s; the UN asking for a moratorium on commercial whaling in the early 1970s; US protection in the same deacade; and finally the moratorium in the 1980s and the rise of scientific whaling. Oh, and how ship strikes, entanglement in fishing gear, and habitat degradation are now their main threats. This is off the top of my head and I haven't really taken a good look at the conservation section but hopefully it will help. SplashyHumpback (talk) 01:38, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, congratulations on bringing Whale to Good Article status. Please do not spoil this achievement now by attempting to undo the hard work we have both put in, in the past week, as we sought to make the article conform to the required standard: such behavior is entirely unacceptable on Wikipedia and is not expected from experienced and committed editors. Unlike Cetacea, Whale is not a taxon article and it is not appropriate for it to duplicate the article on Cetacea. If you want to create detailed lists of whales with images and so forth, Cetacea and its subsidiary articles are the (plentiful) places for that - Whale is not. Thank you for your understanding. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:13, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Cetacea image map

I will be changed the college image to add a beaked whale and a porpoise so you should change the image map. LittleJerry (talk) 15:08, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

What?

Oh I see now. Done Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 17:31, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

In captivity

Hey, Dunky. This section talks about JJ the gray whale, which was kept at SeaWorld in 1997-98, but your citation is from 1991. The citation is probably about GiGi, the first baleen whale to be successfully kept in captivity in the 1970s. It appears you (or whoever added it) confused the two. SplashyHumpback (talk) 01:53, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing that out Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 01:54, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

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Archiving

Hi Dunkleosteus77, I notice you archived the talk page [2] for Dolphin, but I don't see where that is. cygnis insignis 20:36, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Whale and citing sources

Hello, I see that you implied on the Whale FAC that citing sources will be a problem for you, so did you need any assistance with that? I'll be glad to help. Burklemore1 (talk) 15:02, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes. I really desperately need help on this. Thank you very much. Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 22:08, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Alright, I'll get around to it shortly. I'll first take a look at what the reviewers suggested with some of the sources. Burklemore1 (talk) 05:47, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

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I am referring to the changes on Whale and River dolphin. I am sure you were just trying to achieve consistency, but who's to say consistency should be achieved by changing everything one way or the other? Well, the way the issue has been resolved on Wikipedia is to stick to the first version of each article (unless it has strong ties to a nation, but I don't think that's the case for either of the articles in question). Since both articles were originally written using American English, and your edits changed a substantial portion into British English, I do not think it was fair to impose respect of that with "Use British English" templates: in fact, my research showed the opposite (meaning, American) templates should be used.

Hope you understand, LjL (talk) 17:59, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

I was informed that the Whale article was originally written in British English, and the template {{Use British English}} has been on the article (not the talk page) since April, when I tried to resolve British/American English inconsistencies by changing it to American English.

Uhm, well, I checked the article's actual history and as soon as it was no longer a stub (while it was a stub, there were no variety-specific words in it) it was immediately full of American-style words. Sometimes people just "decide" that an article is written in a given variety and slap a template on it, so maybe this was the case here. Hopefully the research I've posted on the article's original terminology solves this issue for good. The article should now be in consistent American English as I've used a nontrivial automatic tool (VarCon) to convert it. LjL (talk) 22:38, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

I'll continue this debate over at the Whale talk page

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River dolphin

Hi, I will finally clean up all of the refs on the article tonight. In the meantime, another Myrmecia ant species has been nominated for GA (Myrmecia inquilina), so feel free to check that out if you're in the mood for reviewing. Cheers, Burklemore1 (talk) 10:54, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

River dolphin DYK

Hi, I saw the requirements for DIY passing, and it says that the claimed tidbit must be present and cited with an inline citation in the article, but I don't see the word "turn" anywhere. Unless it uses different wording (but it should probably use the verbatim wording used in the did-you-know question), it ought to get added... --LjL (talk) 13:17, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Done, thanks for taking on this review LjL

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DYK for River dolphin

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DYK for Porpoise

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DYK for Monk seal

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DYK for Baleen whale (pass)

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How'd that get there? Dunkleosteus77 ^{(push to talk)} 14:37, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

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I reverted your edits at Odd-toed ungulate because it is not how you put an image in a taxobox. It's supposed to be |image=image.jpg and not putting in some unnecessary image map voodoo in.--Mr Fink (talk) 02:17, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

GA review of life

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List of cetaceans

Hi, Dunkleosteus. I noticed that you did substantial work on this list when it was at FAR and am interested in selecting it for a Main Page appearance in the near-future. The only concern I have is a shortage of references in the last two paragraphs of the new lead section, for passages that are not cited in the body of the article. I wouldn't want to see a bunch of cite tags being added to the lead on the article's big day. If you have some spare time, would you mind beefing up the referencing in the lead, so that my concerns over scheduling the list at TFL are eased? Thanks for any help you can provide. Giants2008 (Talk) 19:11, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm happy with the references you provided and have scheduled the list to appear on January 8, 2016; you can review the TFL blurb here. While preparing the blurb, I did notice something interesting. It says multiple times that there are 88 species, but the IUCN counts only go up to 87 and it later says there are 90 living species (including one functionally extinct, but not two). Meanwhile, I count 92 entries in the various tables. You might want to reconcile the numbers before this has its main page date. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:28, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

I see what happened. I'm pretty sure the source you're referring to was published before the Yangtze finless porpoise was accepted as a different species by the IUCN. Also, there are 3 having a conservation status of "NE" (Not Evaluated), meaning they're not recognised by the IUCN, but I'm almost certain they're recognised by other conservation groups. I changed the "90 living species part" to 89, and changed "2 Critically Endangered" to 3

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I think we have addressed all your concerns and them some. Please take a look at the improvements. I think we are done. User:Atsme should take a look, too. 7&6=thirteen (☎)

I think so too   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  23:11, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Would you kindly post a note? Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:08, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

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Heres a book you can use for information on feeding mechanisms. LittleJerry (talk) 22:25, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, can I ask why you removed the paragraph about the Prishibinsk tiger, in the article Caspian tiger? That was sure a huge tiger, compared to the one which had the greatest skull length amongst Caspian tigers. Leo1pard (talk) 17:51, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

I didn't know that was a uniquely large tiger because the average length is not mentioned. You can re-add it if you want   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  18:32, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, just checked progress and see that all but Evolution, Adaptations, Protection, and Military sections are now complete. None require much work to get to GA. Hope all's well with you, if you need to hold for any reason just let me know. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:27, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, Dunkleosteus77. I'm just posting to let you know that List of parrots – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for March 13. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 23:22, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Stellers sea cow

Hi there, I'm now through with my additions to your sea cow article! Please feel free to revert if needed. I would suggest requesting a good copy edit, and renominating it. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 10:05, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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Hi Dunkleosteus77, Just under a year ago, you kindly completed a very detailed GA review of an article I had just written, social immunity. Sadly near the end of the review I dissapeared from enwiki due to various off-wiki events, and I completely forgot about the article in the intervening period. However I now have, again due to off-wiki events, a considerable amount of free time for the next few months. Hence I've fixed the remaining suggestions you had made for social immunity (it was just a few cite/grammar issues e.g. dashes). If you do want to complete the review that would be great; equally if you'd prefer not too that's fine and please know that your efforts were not wasted!

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Mammal

Hello. I feel like the reproductive system subsection should include information on sex organs. In marsupials, male have a forked penis and females have three vaginas. LittleJerry (talk) 02:21, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

@LittleJerry: I can take some stuff from Marsupial but I'm worried that it'd just be a copy/paste. Think you can have a go at it?   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  03:02, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

I could try. LittleJerry (talk) 13:42, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Well alright then   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  18:27, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

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Thank You!

Thank you very much for picking up the common loon for a review! I noticed that you just put Sirenia up for a review, so would you mind if I picked it up (not so familiar with the topic, but could give it a go)? Adityavagarwal (talk) 06:01, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

I don't see why not, thanks   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  06:06, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello there! I hope you are doing great. Could you also pick up the Yunnan hare for a review (I think it is a shorter article, so might entail lesser work than the common loon)? However, if due to any reason you are unable to, I understand that too. I hope you have a great rest of the day! Adityavagarwal (talk) 18:03, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

I hope you are doing awesome! Would you also like too have a go at the common loon FAC? As always, if due to any reason you are unable to, I completely understand that, and have a colourful rest of the day! Adityavagarwal (talk) 02:43, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello there, Dunkleosteus! While reviewing Megalodon, I came across the species Dunkleosteus which might be the reason you chose the username. It is really cool! :D All the more reason to push it to FA hood. ;) I have one more request for you, that the brown pelican article is currently at GAN, but the reviewer is really busy in real life and is unable to complete the review. Would you like to take it on from there? I would be much obliged. Also, I am looking forward to contributing to extinct species after finishing all my current GANs/FACs! Have a wonderful rest of the day! Adityavagarwal (talk) 07:36, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

"Your GA nomination of Yunnan hare"

I look forward to working with you. Thanks for taking this on. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:56, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Bat

Hello, would you be interested in joining me and Chiswick Chap on Bat as a possible FAC. I feel we could use another higher (monophyletic) mammal taxa. We're not in any hurry at this point. LittleJerry (talk) 18:28, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

@LittleJerry: sounds fun, alright   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  22:22, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Our biggest issue is that since we don't write most of the article, we may have trouble with sourcing. Also, Chap says that many of the source are primary. LittleJerry (talk) 17:21, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

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Steller's sea cow reversions

Why are you persisting on this? It is preposterous, citable as MOS or not. It just adds wildly annoying and distracting clutter to a page. This is neither a common sense nor, crucially, a user-friendly approach. Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 16:47, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Adding alternative text for images isn't a user-friendly approach? Call me confused. As editors we should be willing to navigate clutter while editing for the accessibility of our readers. Compared to the "wikiclutter" that citations generate, what's a couple sentences on an image link? – Rhinopias (talk) 17:15, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

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Actually, since Swpb wants the joy of being on the main page asap ... I've swapped sea mink with Rotating locomotion in living systems, so you're now scheduled for the November 22, 2017 date. Sorry! Ealdgyth - Talk 17:28, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

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Megalodon FA nom

I was randomly reading through it and I saw you said you were busy. Figured I could attempt some quick ref fixes… :X – Rhinopias (talk) 22:07, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

it was kinda funny how I started editing directly after you’d fixed everything   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  23:08, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

My bad for confusingly jumping in. I think "fixed everything" is an overstatement though. ;] – Rhinopias (talk) 01:00, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

A word

Hi, just to say I'm disappointed to see you starting a hare running during a GAN that we are conducting together. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:14, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

as an American, I do not know what that means   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  13:20, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, not trying to be needlessly obscure. I mean, starting a new thread which might lead to extensive informal discussion while we're hard at work trying to close down a formal discussion. It's something always best avoided in my view. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:30, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

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Natural History Museum of the University of Pisa

Hey Dunkleosteus77. I moved "Museo storia naturale di Pisa" (which contained at least one mistake) to Natural History Museum of Pisa... but the official website names the museum as "Natural History Museum of the University of Pisa". Do you agree with that name? seems to be official regarding the English language... Kintaro (talk) 22:20, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

@Kintaro: well if that's what's on the official website I guess   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  23:07, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Done!! Kintaro (talk) 23:10, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

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What was THAT??? Never ever do that again!2001:A61:370B:2E01:B514:F2DE:9FAC:EF30 (talk) 09:33, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

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I'm going to need your help at the FAC page, since Chap is out for Christmas. LittleJerry (talk) 16:41, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

I’m also out for Christmas   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  15:24, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

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I am thinking

I will clear up some time to help and check over your article. Thanks for asking.

statement for the talk page for polar Dinosaurs

I think what we should do is put a list of Cretaceous polar dinosaurs and ones from the late Jurassic. All dinosaurs in that list should be 145 mya at the oldest and the youngest 66/65 mya for the list. This is stated in the article that the polar forests formed 145 mya and lasted into the end of the Maastrichtian.

Think this is good?

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Talk

D'you think the guy's bats (talking only encourages him) or has any sort of rational point? His argument doesn't make a lot of sense to me: happy to oppose, if it'd help. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:57, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

I really don't understand any aspect of his argument at all. I assume he's planning the same layout as Whale vs Dolphin vs Cetacea (which I hate, honestly), so I think I'm opposing   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  19:15, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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A question ... you removed "sometimes" (which I had added) from "puncturing heart and lungs". This is a model of Megalodon's jaws and teeth; this is the skull of a blue whale. How do those teeth reach that whale's heart and lungs in one bite? I can't form a mental image of what's going on here. We may need a different verb. - Dank (push to talk) 14:59, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Dank I don’t understand, how is the skull related to puncturing the chest cavity?   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  16:00, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

The problem may center on the meaning of the word "puncture". The largest tooth discovered so far is under 3 inches. I have no trouble visualizing a shark with 3-inch teeth chewing on a whale until it reaches vital organs, but that's not the image that "puncture" suggests. If I take a 3-inch knife and use it to carve up a house until I reach the bathtub, then stick the knife in the bathtub, that's not "puncturing" ... puncturing would be driving something 10 feet long into the house until it hits the tub. - Dank (push to talk) 16:09, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

I can make an edit taking the "puncturing" part out, if that will help. I'm sure we can come up with something that will work for you. - Dank (push to talk) 16:48, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

It punctured the chest cavity by targeting the abdominal region as far’s I know, so would “crush” work? “Targeting the heart and lungs” maybe?   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  19:54, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good. - Dank (push to talk) 20:13, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:02, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

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Whats an Informal Grouping in a biological or scientific sense of the word?

Example of your usage of the word. [3]

it’s not a taxon so there isn’t one   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  03:52, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

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Automatic taxoboxes

It's not so much that the automatic taxobox system is complicated but that it looks complicated, especially if one's already used to manual taxoboxes. The sheer amount of documentation might be a bit off-putting as well, even if much of it pertains either to the back-end of the system or to highly specific, complex circumstances that one's not very likely to run into frequently. Since you expressed difficulty learning from that documentation (again, understandable), if you'd like, I could help you learn how to use it. Even if you end up never adding any automatic taxoboxes/speciesboxes it to articles yourself, it's good to know how it works when something needs updating or when someone adds a mangled automatic taxobox somewhere. Alternatively, feel free to ask me if you ever need a hand with one (but I'm prone to random longer absences, so it might be a good idea to check if I'm active first). If you're not interested in either, that's fine too, of course. AddWittyNameHere 19:22, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Well that's really my problem with mandating automatic taxoboxes: I'm pretty familiar with how this whole Wiki stuff works, and even I can't figure out one thing about how this works   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  19:25, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

To be fair, I think it's in part because you're so familiar with how Wiki works. I found it hard to get used to automatic taxoboxes while I kept the way "normal" taxoboxes worked in mind. I was like "okay, so this is like manual taxoboxes...except this, and this...oh and this, this, this, this and that over there", which basically boils down to "how the hell am I supposed to memorize all of this, let alone work with it?".

So I let them be for a bit, then came back to it but this time approaching it as an entirely different system with the same purpose and some similarities (such as some of the parameter names)—rather than essentially the same system with "some" differences—and suddenly it was fairly easy to "get". AddWittyNameHere 19:37, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

I can't even figure out what page I'm supposed to edit for automatic taxoboxes   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  19:39, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about the slow-ish reply. Was afk due to eating dinner.

In regards to your question:

• If the underlying infrastructure (the taxonomy templates) exists—something that will become increasingly the norm if/as more areas of the ToL adapt to using the automatic taxobox system—and is up-to-date, then all you need to edit is the relevant article. This is what much of the adding of automatic taxoboxes/speciesboxes is like, as well as what repairing a lot of wrong automatic taxoboxes is like (e.g. when someone added the wrong binomial or authority, or misformatted the taxobox)
• If the underlying infrastructure doesn't exist, then you'll need to edit 1. the article and 2. create the relevant missing taxonomy template. This sounds harder than it is: what you'd do is add the automatic taxobox just as you would if everything *does* exist, then follow the link in the error message ("Click here to enter the taxonomic details for [taxon]", with "Click here" having a light blue background). This brings you to the taxonomy template to create, with much of the code already pre-formatted. At that point, all you have to do is add to the already-existing-but-empty parameters the rank and parent taxon information, as well as (preferably but not mandatory) a reference. This is the second-most common situation when adding a speciesbox/automatic taxobox to an article in most areas; in some highly speciose areas with sizeable portions of the lower-level infrastructure not yet in place—such as Lepidoptera—it is more common than in areas with a high level of infrastructural coverage.

• Now, sometimes the parent taxon also doesn't exist yet. (Though the higher the taxon rank, the more likely it is that someone already created the relevant taxonomy template, regardless of whether or not they're actually *used* in the relevant articles. Eventually, the sole higher taxon templates that will not exist are those recently erected or of which the rank was recently revised and that involve name changes.) The system gives you another error message with, again, a link to create the template at the correct location with all the code pre-loaded. Barring large-scale taxonomic revisions involving the name-and-rank change of a taxon, you do the same here: create, then add rank, parent (and preferably, reference) to the pre-loaded contents. If that parent taxon doesn't exist yet, rinse and repeat. Not very common any more in most areas

• If the underlying infrastructure *does* exist but isn't correct, you click the pencil icon on the taxobox. This leads you to the relevant taxonomy template. On the right-hand side is a long Ancestral Taxa table. Check where the error is occurring (that is, which taxon has the wrong parent information or rank information, e.g. if Felinae is listed as subfamily of Canidae, or if Felinae is listed as family), click the link to edit that template and correct the information. Second-most common when repairing an existing automatic taxobox

• If the case is especially complex (e.g. due to a revision or a mistake on the side of whoever created the taxonomy template, the issue also involves the taxon's name), it may require moving or going through a larger number of taxonomy templates to fix issues—but that's no difference from mainspace, where large numbers of articles would *also* need checking and some would need to be moved to the new name. Those cases do require some familiarity with the system, but they're fairly infrequent and generally aren't something we would want new editors to handle in the first place—much like we wouldn't want new editors to handle the moving/renaming of its mainspace and category-space counterparts. Uncommon.

Essentially, in all cases it is "start from the article that needs a (change to its) taxobox, and follow the links the system provides". AddWittyNameHere 21:02, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Refactoring the RM

I was going to say it's no big deal, and just start a discussion on this edit as being misguided. There have been many, many RM discussions in which discussion is intermixed with the Survey section (whether marked as that or not. However, the Discussion section never contains !votes so far as I have seen. When the discussion becomes complex, it's quite common to start a separate section without refactorinng the existing discussion, as I did. I appreciate the logic of what you've done, but AFAIK it's unprecedented and will only serve to make the closer's job more difficult. It's not just this RM that is affected. Others will see !votes in the Discussion section. If you disagree with the established practice, discuss this, and perhaps we can change it.

But the more I looked at your edits the more concerned I became. I have therefore reverted them both. The refactoring, merging the previous discussion into the RM, destroys the stringing.

Please discuss. Andrewa (talk) 00:03, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

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hey want to get back to work?

Should we work on the south polar region of the Cretaceous article? Also Editor number 4 is not editing for a while so we will have to ask Hemiauchenia to help us.

Bubblesorg All I can see that’s left is the Geology section and expanding the lead. How about you finish those up and we can co-nominate it for GA. Also, make sure to use reliable sources, not just the first ones you find after googling it (unless those happen to be reliable)   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  22:00, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Bubblesorg can you do that?   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  19:38, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Sure let me just get finished with camp which in 1 day and i will be ready--Bubblesorg (talk) 20:26, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Good I think I will make a list of things rather thanks to camps and tuitions.15:30, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Bubblesorg What? I don't understand   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  19:51, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Gosh

What an unfriendly comment! Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:30, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Chiswick Chap Hold up, it’s a good article, just a couple things   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  20:48, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Well, thanks. If you did that IRL I'd have spilt my coffee all over your lap! I'll tweak the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:50, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

ok i am working on the geology draft

Yeah takes me some days but i will submit after completion

how and where exactly do you draft your articles? I think I should see your finished product before you publish it   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  03:59, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

yes i will show you the draft after i am done with it on word.--Bubblesorg (talk) 17:41, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

You could always use your sandbox if you need to draft first   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:01, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Ok thanks i will submit the draft day after tomorrow.--Bubblesorg (talk) 17:34, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Put it up on your sandbox first so I can read it and I'll tell you if anything needs fixing, and then after that little process, you can put it on the article   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  19:04, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

So how's that geology going for you?   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  00:47, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

@Bubblesorg: Hey   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  14:39, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Bubblesorg: Okay don't bother with the Geology section, I just wrote it. Do the lead instead and we can continue with this. All you need to do is, in 3 paragraphs, give a nice summary of the article information without getting too specific. I recommend doing it in one editing session, just sit down and do it, so you don't delay yourself so long   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  03:31, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

@Bubblesorg: do you still wanna do something on this article or no?   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  15:09, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

I will kep working and i have some what.

Bubblesorg, from what I can tell, everything you’ve written has either been deleted or rewritten, so let’s try to get whatever you write for the lead to stick   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:37, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Ok sure. I will work on it more later.

Could you help

I am trying to link the genus of the false killer whale to its genus article but I am seeming to be unsuccessful could you help thanks Bubblesorg (talk) 22:14, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

I don’t understand what you’re trying to say, where are you trying to wikilink Pseudorca? Also editing questions can be answered at the Teahouse   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  00:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Actias luna GAN - thanks

Thanks. This is my second insect GA nomination. Not my professional area of expertise. Given widespread fascination with Luna moth (masks, poems, tattoos...) I was surprised how little content there was at the article. David notMD (talk) 20:54, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Question: I just received a note on my Talk that the nomination has failed, but I do not see any comment at the article talk about that. Am I missing something? Is it possible that because the name change was accepted and implemented that I should reapply with a nomination for "Luna moth"? David notMD (talk) 00:57, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

As of this morning, looks as if the GA nomination has been reactivated for "Luna moth." I am going to wait a day, and then continue with the revisions. David notMD (talk) 10:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Are we done with the GA review? I replied at Talk on the owl and egg predation questions. David notMD (talk) 12:41, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

In my opinion, brevity is a virtue, but not a requirement. This is not an overly wordy article. I appreciate your diligence and time put into this review process, which has gone on for more than ten days, but we clearly have different preferences for detail. I would prefer that you fail the GA nomination so that I can renominate it for a new reviewer. David notMD (talk) 09:46, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Wordiness doesn’t necessarily fail an article, I would’ve just liked it to be more concise and straight to the point before I passed it, but if you’re not moving, I guess I’ll just go on ahead and pass it   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  15:11, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Appreciated. I did shorten the parasite content a bit more after my note to you. David notMD (talk) 18:40, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Note for the future, word count doesn’t matter. And also I just realized there’s no Taxonomy section which should probably be there   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  20:10, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

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is this article of any use?

https://depositsmag.com/2017/12/05/australias-polar-cretaceous-mammals/

Well the author’s a museum curator so I’d say it’s okay. Why? What’re you planning?   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  03:59, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Just stuff on the mammal section.--Bubblesorg (talk) 15:26, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Okay just remember not to get too detailed on individual species and such. They all already have their own articles. And check your spelling before publishing   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  20:08, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Bubblesorg, so how’s the lead coming along?

is this ok "Dinosaurs from these region are known as south polar dinosaurs"--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:52, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

No, that’s a given. It’s like South Polar mammals or South Polar plesiosaurs   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  17:38, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Bubblesorg so how's that lead coming?   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  03:45, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

OK--Bubblesorg (talk) 17:02, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Bubblesorg When do you think you'll be done with it? It shouldn't take you more than 10 or 15 minutes since you just have to summarize what's already in the article   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  18:44, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Bubblesorg, you don’t need refs in the lead because it’s summarizing what’s already in the article. The refs you added are not formatted right (use template:cite journal for those). Keep going on the lead, and I thought you said you’d show it to me before you added it   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  15:36, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

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Luna moth up for DYK

An FYI that Luna moth in in Prep stage for DYK, should move into Queue, then show up on the main page evening of the 12th (assuming I have the date count right). With picture. Curious about how many extra views that will gender over the ~750/day it gets now. David notMD (talk) 02:52, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

And it's on the main page. And I meant "engender." David notMD (talk) 01:03, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Pisco Formation

Hey, with your GAN in progress for Thalassocnus and the other articles you worked on, Livyatan (FA), megalodon (FA) and Acrophyseter (GA) and many more possible articles to boost, I thought it was time for an own category, as the other important Lagerstëtten of South America have too, see Category:Pisco Formation. I will work on the geology part of it in the coming weeks to get it better and focus on the paleo-environment, as I think that will be useful for the other articles. There is just still so much to do, until now I have mostly focused on re-organizing, categorizing and infilling existing formations, so a little break from my earlier work on for instance the Honda Group and Cocinetas Basin, as important other fossiliferous formations, but we will get there. Bahía Inglesa for sure needs proper coverage, as do many others in the SALMA lists. Good luck with getting it to GA, if you want me to review, I am happy to do it. One thing I would like to see is a better use of references, not these walls of unreadable text inside the paragraphs, but rather how I refer to the bibliography, also because then you can refer to the specific page, which is more professional than just quoting a full paper 20 times over. Cheers, Tisquesusa (talk) 22:39, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good, I’ll get to adding that category around articles (lotta sharks), and you can review Thalassocnus if you want to. I didn’t realize how many Pisco Formation articles I did, I just like marine mammals. Also I did that specific-page format for references at whale and I find it very confusing. What I could do, if you want, is put those especially-used references in Further reading, that’d work I should think   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  01:15, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

On the last point, that is what I am doing now with the South American (and African) geology articles, adding the articles as Further reading for now, so they can be incorporated later into the articles. On the point of mammals, I like the land mammals and hence the SALMA expansion, but there is such a lot that is missing, even for well-known Lagerstätten. We have some work to do, which is nice. I will start the review this weekend, and I am sure it will be good to pass soon. Have a good night Tisquesusa (talk) 03:23, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

done with the lead

Is there anything more?--Bubblesorg (talk) 01:32, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

yeah, the lead. You can add a lot more there and condense some things you’ve already added. Get to 2 to 3 paragraphs   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  05:03, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

is this formation good? Hidden Lake Formation--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  16:25, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Have an idea for tree frog article

You know what you did to the Whale article right? where you replaced the taxon box with the object box. Could we do that with the tree frog article?--Bubblesorg (talk) 20:26, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

you could. You could also do it how they did it in jellyfish   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:37, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Yeah i did that and some users who no nothing about taxonomy took it down saying it is not appropriate for an animal page.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tree_frog&action=history--Bubblesorg (talk) 19:40, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Then make your case if you’re really adamant about its inclusion (but remember other stuff exists is not an argument here)   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  04:15, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

List of mammal species/navigation

A certain editor is beginning to get to be a pest. Would you believe that I got a smiley from CF today for deleting a random irrelevant picture which they had added to List of mammal species? Narky Blert (talk) 22:59, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

&$%£! [4] Narky Blert (talk) 23:58, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Persistence

Hi, I have searched for reliable sources for persistence hunting and have found nothing about non-human animals, and (especially) nothing about orcas. If you know of any such sources, I'll be happy to use them. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:04, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

this doesn't specifically use the words "persistence hunting" but it describes a pod of orcas pursuing a sperm whale over the course of several hours   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  14:38, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, but we'd be committing collective OR if we assumed such a connection. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:16, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Okay but I’ve still left other examples on the nomination page that specifically use some synonym of “persistence hunting”   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  18:36, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

I've replied there. "Cursorial" (which just means running) is not a synonym of persistence; that's easy to see with spiders, as they can't breathe when running, so they cannot be persistent in the run-for-five-hours-across-the-Kalahari sense. Any predator with running limbs is cursorial, including short-burst cheetahs, the antithesis of a persistence predator. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:44, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

However they contrasted it with ambush predation, meaning they defined cursorial predation as the opposite, and when appendaged with "hunter" the word refers to endurance running   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  19:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

That's really not right, and you mustn't try to argue by synthesis. A cheetah certainly isn't a persistence predator, and it's certainly cursorial - indeed they use the cheetah as their example of a cursorial predator. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:36, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

so where is it?

where is the GA i don't see it?

I wanted your go-ahead first, I nominated it just now   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  01:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

I will start in just a bit i am in school--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:24, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

what do you mean ‘start’? There aren’t any comments yet. We just need to wait now for somebody to review the article and do last-minute fixes on the article if you see any   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  16:27, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Are we complete on Jellyfish?

Hi, we think we've done everything here, unless there are any more comments? Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:52, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

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Baleen whales

Hi ... tomorrow I'm going to try to tie up some loose ends at WT:TFA. I want to give people some examples from previous TFA blurbs, and ask for opinions on whether any part of the given text is redundant or not. I'm usually completely rewriting these examples so that no one will feel like I'm doing any public finger-pointing, but for this example, I'm not sure how to rewrite it ... do you have any objection if I use the following text with just a few modifications from Baleen whale? "Once relentlessly hunted by commercial industries for their meat, blubber, baleen, and oil, cetaceans now have some protections under international law. [Besides hunting,] baleen whales also face threats from marine pollution and ocean acidification." (I actually have no idea how people will vote on this one ... both the original and my modified form are fine in a Featured Article, I think ... the question is whether I did the right thing in removing "Besides hunting" when I did the blurb.) - Dank (push to talk) 20:40, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, go on ahead   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  23:36, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

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a cup of tea

I'm having one, thank you for your patience in the face of my exasperation. cygnis insignis 07:07, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Could you review thanks

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Parrot article

Hi, a reply has been posted onto the request on 'parrot' that you made a while ago for a review! PS: yes, cats are very nice?

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Oceanic dolphin

Hi there. My edit to oceanic dolphin was not vandalism, and frankly I fail to see why you would think it was. It did three things:

• It moved the opening comment tag (<!--) up. The way it was before created a double line break and therefore created extra white-space, which was clearly not what it was intended to do.
• It added a closing italic tag ('') to the genus name Steno in one of the citations, which was erroneously omitted.
• It moved the refs up so that they appeared on the same line as the text they referred to. If there is a good reason for them to be separate then I apologise, but I am not aware of one.

If you have any reason to disagree with any of these changes that is fine and they can be discussed if necessary (although it probably isn't worth the bother given how minor they are). However, vandalism is defined as behaviour/edits which are deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose. Unless I have missed something, nothing that I did is even potentially disruptive (all were minor formatting changes), let alone counter to Wikipedia's purpose, and it certainly wasn't done with malicious intent. Please assume good faith and try not to accuse other editors of malicious behaviour without a strong justification.

In that spirit I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you either mis-clicked or misunderstood the edit. (Perhaps an edit summary would have helped.) However, some clarification would be appreciated.

Thanks, Alphathon /'æɫ.fə.θしーたɒn/ ^(talk) 20:39, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Alphathon It looked like a hidden comment that you for some reason made unhidden because I saw in the wikitext that you took off the ”<!--“ but not the ending “-->” so it would have displayed “[text]-->” and seemed like some low level vandalism on my end   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  22:42, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

OK, that makes sense and I can see why it might have looked like that. Thanks for the clarification. Alphathon /'æɫ.fə.θしーたɒn/ ^(talk) 01:38, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

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Tylosaurus scale diagram

Yes, it was accidental taking out the scale diagram on the Tylosaurus page! I am sorry about this, didn`t notice it at the time at all. Please put a new one in (or get somebody to) as it was a genuine mistake on my part. Orthogonal Orthocone (talk) 14:27, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

I have trouble

I made this page, so far im the only one except for shellwood on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pachyacanthus you have a talent of editing cetacean pages so can you help me?--Bubblesorg (talk) 18:22, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

FAR

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Pinniped list

Hello. I feel like your pinniped list is better suited for a List of pinniped species article. LittleJerry (talk) 04:18, 17 July 2019 (UTC)