User talk:Tim!/Archive 18

Category:Populated places in Serbia

Hi can you empty this by district?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Can you sort out Category:Populated places in Georgia (country). The by region should be e.g Category:Populated places in Adjara not cities and towns in (there are villages which need to be included too). Can you empty those cats and rename them Populated places in and empty the main cat by splitting by region?♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:24, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Music from Bath, Somerset

Category:Music from Bath, Somerset, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 21:49, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to take part in Wikipedia research

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Category:Awards by newspapers

Good idea. I created a sub Category:Literary awards by newspapers since there are a lot of those (most yet unidentified), and it will help fit that group into the Category:Literary awards by genre and type, which is the main category of Category:Literary awards . Green Cardamom (talk) 17:30, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Strange category name

Hi, what is the purpose of Category:Categories named after districts of England? The words "categories named after" could be applied to a huge number of categories, so we don't normally do it: omitting those words gives Category:Districts of England, which already exists, with pretty much the same content. This seems like unnecessary duplication to me. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:06, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: CFD

Thanks, looks like a fun process. I've been doing it for years without any problems and I really can't justify such a waste of time when no human being alive could conceivably object. IMO the principles behind BEBOLD (and therefore IAR, at least in spirit) apply perfectly to a lot of simple stuff that is now bogged down in process at CFD (even speedies), and they apply especially to a wholly uncontroversial and small scale change as this. ninety:one (reply on my talk) 23:46, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

With respect, I would probably have a heart attack from surprise if someone objected to so uncontroversial a change as that :) ninety:one (reply on my talk) 16:30, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Categories

I can't see much point to categories like Category:Categories named after counties of Wales when all of the contents also remain in Category:Counties of Wales. It just adds another level. Categories like this are usually only useful when all the categories that will reside in it are not already gathered together as subcategories of one solitary parent category. For example, the subcategories of Category:Categories named after former countries are so diffused throughout the subcategories of Category:Former countries, that it is useful gathering them together in one place. But that's not the case with the Wales category, for example, because they are already together in Category:Counties of Wales. Does that make sense? Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:56, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Category:Categories named after counties of Wales has 31 members, which is more than the 22 members of Category:Counties of Wales because there are also Category:Preserved counties of Wales and Category:Historic counties of Wales. Tim! (talk) 10:07, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

OK, perhaps not a great example, but I'm seeing a ton of these. Category:Categories named after regions of Ghana has 10 subcategories but all 10 are in Category:Regions of Ghana (since there are 10 regions of Ghana)? What's the point of that one, for instance? Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 10:12, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I suppose it just leaves the more general questions of whether all eponymous categories should have a "Categories named after..." parent, and how flat the structure should be. Tim! (talk) 10:36, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, I suppose kind of it could be stretched into that broader issue, but I think the more immediate issue as I see it is why have an "eponymous category" for a subject when all of its subcategories are already easily accessible in a category?, as with Category:Categories named after regions of Ghana/Category:Regions of Ghana. What are we trying to accomplish here? I always figured these categories existed for ease of browsing categories, not for any sort of "completeness" of a scheme, since having a "categories named after" parent for each subject is probably far beyond the scope of what we can accomplish right now. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 08:45, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I certainly take on board your points and will bear them in mind when creating any more similar categories. Tim! (talk) 08:18, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm siding with Good Olfactory here, since I raised a similar q two sections above and got this response. I'm still not convinced: and may yet go to WP:CFD. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:34, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Just regarding the referred to response: I don't think there's any solid consensus to approach things that way—dividing the articles into one category and the categories of the same name into a "categories named after" category. I've seen that approach proposed before, but from what I can see it's still very common to put categories named after districts directly in the category named "districts of FOO". Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 18:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I takte note of Good Olfactory's out of process category emptyings with alarm. Tim! (talk) 07:09, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Poland

Hi. Earlier I started Category:Buildings and structures in Poland by voivodeship. Can you find articles to go in each category? Also can you split Category:Castles in Poland by voivodeship. If any are empty I will transwiki some as I intend to transwiki a lot of castles and other buildings.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:15, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

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Deletion of Category:Epping Forest

Hi Tim! I noticed that you nominated Category:Epping Forest for merger with Category:Epping Forest (district) on 30 Dec, and the merger has now been carried out. I'm not sure where the appropriate place to contest this merger is, hence my coming to your talk page - if you are able to direct me to that place I'd be grateful. The reason I would like to contest the merger is that Epping Forest and the Epping Forest district are not synonymous - much of the Forest itself is not within the political entity that is the district, and the merger has led to some articles (e.g. Wanstead Flats) being inappropriately categorised. Thanks, Lancevortex (talk) 21:20, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

The simplest solution would seem to be create a new category Category:Epiing Forest with articles related to only to the woodland and leaving the articles about the council elections etc in the district category. Tim! (talk) 06:58, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

I will do that, thanks. Lancevortex (talk) 11:14, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Category:Categories named after Foo, redux

• "I suppose it just leaves the more general questions of whether all eponymous categories should have a "Categories named after..." parent, and how flat the structure should be. Tim! (talk) 10:36, 31 December 2011 (UTC)"

I just got corrected for placing an author category in "category:american authors" when of course the category is not an author, its a... category! so, i got curious, noticed this group of categories for categories named after cities, noted your question above which i quoted, and ask you: why hasnt this been extended more? we dont even have a "category:categories named after cities in teh united states". the question of how flat it should be is a separate issue, which im not sure i want to try to think about. Is there a forum for this odd, but for scholars of library science, seems really important. Do you think i should create the category for us cities?Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:06, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Personally I feel that would be a good idea. Just looking at a category like Category:Anniston, Alabama, it is in Category:Cities in Alabama but it could also have a parent called Category:Categories named after cities in the United States. But maybe Category:Categories named after cities in Alabama would be going too far because it would not offer anything that Cities in Alabama doesn't already do. Tim! (talk) 08:09, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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Thailand

Hi, can you split Category:Populated places in Thailand by province?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:20, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Act 2007

You recently removed a number of categories form this article (Category:English laws, Category:Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom concerning Scotland, Category:Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom concerning Northern Ireland and Category:2007 in Scotland). I can understand why the latter could be seen as superfluous, but what was your thinking behind deleting the other three? Emeraude (talk) 11:03, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Makes sense. Emeraude (talk) 13:14, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Eponymous categories

Sorry, I did not make the intention of the nomination clear enough. I've adjusted the nomination accordingly[1]. Thanks. SFB 13:03, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Ukraine

Hi I was wondering if you could view the sub categories of Category:Cities in Ukraine, Category:Towns in Ukraine and Category:Villages in Ukraine and place the entries by oblast into a Category:Populated places in xxx Oblast and then into a Category:Populated places in Ukraine category?♦ Dr. Blofeld 00:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Shenton Hall

Hi, you modified an article about Shenton Hall in Leicestershire saying it was owned by Cher and a local ex-goat farmer Ambrose Long, could you please confirm for me where you heard this information? I'm trying to write a newspaper article about this information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by R3porterEd (talk • contribs) 14:47, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

The information was actually added in this edit by an IP address 90.206.199.87 (talk · contribs). Tim! (talk) 21:17, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	I really appreciate what you do with categories on here. Amazing! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:05, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much! Tim! (talk) 18:38, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear Tim!,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and

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Category:Anime films by year of first release

Can you rename the sub categories as Anime films of .... rather than film?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:22, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

I'll nominate them later today. Tim! (talk) 07:33, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Category:Suffrage campaign in the United Kingdom

Category:Suffrage campaign in the United Kingdom, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 03:14, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Kazakhstan

Hi. Can you split Category:Populated places in Kazakhstan by province?♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:32, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Can you split Category:Populated places in Angola?♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:48, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Can you also do Category:Populated places in Gabon?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:48, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Cheers!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:52, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tim. I wondered if you could create Buildings and structures categories by region of Denmark. Also I think some of the cities could have Building and structure categories but don't. Can you look into it?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:28, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review for Category:Electricians

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Category:Establishments in London by year

Category:Establishments in London by year and related hierarchy, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. __meco (talk) 13:32, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Category:1537 establishments by country

Category:1537 establishments by country, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 12:59, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Category:Years in British politics

Category:Years in British politics, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:32, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Category:Children of national leaders

Category:Children of national leaders, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:39, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Removing Dubai from country categories

I question your recent edits to some Dubai-related categories where you removed their parent categories linking them up to country hierarchies. Would you do the same to England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland? I would think the best thing is to restore those categories where you have removed them. But I'm open to a wider discussion. __meco (talk) 08:14, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

From its article : "Dubai is an emirate within the United Arab Emirates (UAE)", also I note the article is not categorised as a country.

Some England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland categories are categorised directly in "by country" categories, some are not. Usually they are if they contain articles relevant to their pre-union history e.g. Category:Battles involving England. Tim! (talk) 17:42, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't have a strong opinion on the matter as long as we're adhering to a consistency of practice across the entire establishments by country category spectrum. I read the article on emirate and found its listing somewhat ambiguous with respect to the matter. __meco (talk) 20:52, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Category:Populated places in Comoros

Hi. Can you split this by island? Anjouan, Grand Comoro and Moheli are the main ones..♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:42, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Category:British lesbians

Category:British lesbians, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. KarlB (talk) 15:11, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Accidental move

Wikipedia:Dordogne River is the result of an accidental move from article space. The correct name should be Dordogne River. Could you delete the redirect currently there so we can move the article back? Thanks in advance. Equazcion ^(talk) 21:05, 28 Apr 2012 (UTC)

Looks like someone else just fixed it. Thanks anyway :) Equazcion ^(talk) 21:08, 28 Apr 2012 (UTC)

Discussion at Category talk:1959 in Ubangi-Shari#Name in 1959

You are invited to join the discussion at Category talk:1959 in Ubangi-Shari#Name in 1959. – Fayenatic London (talk) 17:46, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Category:Republicanism in Ireland

Category:Republicanism in Ireland, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. KarlB (talk) 18:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Removal of Scotland from country categories

Can you explain your rationale for removing for example Category:Schools of medicine by country from Category:Schools of medicine in Scotland and Category:Teaching hospitals by country from Category:Teaching hospitals in Scotland? Thanks, Catfish Jim and the soapdish 10:56, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Probably because Category:Schools of medicine by country contains Category:Schools of medicine in the United Kingdom which already contained Category:Schools of medicine in Scotland. Similarly, Category:Teaching hospitals by country contains Category:Teaching hospitals in the United Kingdom which already contained Category:Teaching hospitals in Scotland. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:23, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

As Redrose says, and per our categorisation guideline at Wikipedia:Categorization, articles and categories should not be in both a parent category and a subcategory. This is consistent with how England, Wales and Northern Ireland categories are dealt with. Tim! (talk) 20:24, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Egypt

Hi. Can you split Category:Populated places in Egypt by Governorate?♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:44, 30 May 2012 (UTC)