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Backlog[edit]

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GAN report: mystery solved?[edit]

Wugapodes, you may recall that in the GAN report's Malformed nominations sections, an "Unknown nomination" link to the Film section of the page, but with no other information beyond that, showed up for this first time on June 1, 2019. It finally disappeared last night, and I have a tentative diagnosis.

I believe the nomination in question was for Rushmore (film), which was originally made on May 31, 2019, during the day and with a subtopic of "Film". It was clearly a handmade GA nominee template (people are supposed to substitute the GAN template): what I thought was the problem here was that there were no links for the nominator or their talk page, which I fixed. What I missed when I finally started investigating in mid-June—and what I think caused your bot to pick up on the error—was that the date/time field was malformed: all times are supposed to have two digits for the hour and two for the minutes, and this was formatted "8:20, 31 May 2019 (UTC)" rather than "08:20, 31 May 2019 (UTC)", something I didn't notice until today, when I was trying to figure out what went wrong.

I think it was the problematic date that caused the problem, though there may have been something else about this nomination that caused it—this is a tentative diagnosis, after all, and it may be accurate, partially accurate, or not the actual issue at all. Still, this info might help you track down where in the code the error might have been generated, and why the link was to the section rather than the actual (problematic) nomination.

Hope all is well, and best of luck tracking this down. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:15, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, yeah, that's probably it. The regular expression which parses the noms assumes that the timestamp has two digits for the hour, so that's an easy fix. Wug·a·po·des 18:46, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GANs to do[edit]

Talk:Park Avenue main line/GA1
Talk:Martin Scorsese/GA1 (unless someone gets there first)

New Years Greetings[edit]

I've noticed that some of these GANs directly above are either done or on hold. In case you might be interested, I've recently listed the biography for the film director Martin Scorsese as a nomination. He is nominated for an Oscar this year and I thought it might be nice if his article could be brought to peer review quality before the Oscars next month, if you might be inclined to look at it. CodexJustin (talk) 17:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2022 September newsletter[edit]

New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022[edit]

Hello Wugapodes,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

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Backlog:

Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023[edit]

Hello Wugapodes,

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023[edit]

Hello Wugapodes,

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

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WikiCup 2023 September newsletter[edit]

The fourth round of the competition has finished, with anyone scoring less than 673 points being eliminated. It was a high scoring round with all but one of the contestants who progressed to the final having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were

Epicgenius, with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by
Sammi Brie, with 1575 points, gained mainly from a featured article, 28 good articles and 50 good article reviews. Close behind was
Thebiguglyalien, with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points.

Between them during round 4, contestants achieved 12 featured articles, 3 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 126 good articles, 46 DYK entries, 14 ITN entries, 67 featured article candidate reviews and 147 good article reviews. Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them and within 24 hours of the end of the final. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.

I will be standing down as a judge after the end of the contest. I think the Cup encourages productive editors to improve their contributions to Wikipedia and I hope that someone else will step up to take over the running of the Cup. Sturmvogel 66 (talk), and Cwmhiraeth (talk)

June music[edit]

Franz Kafka died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of Graham87. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today's story is about a tune used by Bach and Mozart. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today I wanted to write a happy song story, on a friend's birthday, but instead we have the word of thunder on top of it, which would have been better on 2 June, this year's first Sunday after Trinity. The new lilypond - thanks to DanCherek - is quite impressive. As my 2 Jun story said: Bach was fired up. - Today's Main page is rich in music, also Franz Liszt and a conductor. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today is "the day" for James Joyce, also for Bach's fourth chorale cantata (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:47, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New pics of food and flowers come with the story of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by Brian Boulton. I nominated Éric Tappy because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated another women for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from W.H.Nelson (10:09, 17 June 2024)[edit]

Hi Karnataka,

how do i start creating a page? --W.H.Nelson (talk) 10:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-25[edit]

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People who attempt to add an external link in the visual editor will now receive immediate feedback if they attempt to link to a domain that a project has decided to block. Please see Edit check for more details. [1]
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The dark mode beta feature is now available on category and help pages, as well as more special pages. There may be contrast issues. Please report bugs on the project talk page. [4]

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Cloud Services tools were not available for 25 minutes last week. This was caused by a faulty hardware cable in the data center. [5]
Last week, styling updates were made to the Vector 2022 skin. This caused unforeseen issues with templates, hatnotes, and images. Changes to templates and hatnotes were reverted. Most issues with images were fixed. If you still see any, report them here. [6]

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 June. It will be on all wikis from 20 June (calendar). [7][8]
Starting June 18, the Reference Edit Check will be deployed to a new set of Wikipedias. This feature is intended to help newcomers and to assist edit-patrollers by inviting people who are adding new content to a Wikipedia article to add a citation when they do not do so themselves. During a test at 11 wikis, the number of citations added more than doubled when Reference Check was shown to people. Reference Check is community configurable. [9]
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Update about Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music#Is_K-Pop_a_music_genre?[edit]

So it's been 2 weeks since our last discussion here.

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music#Is_K-Pop_a_music_genre? hasn't been active since 22:47, 12 June 2024 (UTC). And the link for the for the last message is this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music#c-Tonkarooson-20240612224700-QuietHere-20240612000200.

Feel free to read that discussion on WikiProject Music. There hasn't been any messages about this on WikiProject Korea. —Tonkarooson (talk) 04:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Tonkarooson, I've taken a look a the discussion. The consensus seems to be that we should not refer to K-Pop as a genre. The first reason is that the K-Pop article itself is not clear on whether it is a genre. Even the most knowledgable writers on the subject cannot come to an agreement on how to define it, so it is too soon to make a firm decision one way or the other. The second reason is that similar topics like J-Rock have been removed from genre lists, so even outside of K-Pop there seems to be no agreement on whether "music from an East Asian country" is a genre. Based on the discussion, I would recommend you avoid adding K-Pop to genre lists for now. — Wug·a·po·des 20:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see.

The article "Korean hip hop" says quote, "Korean hip-hop, also known as K-hip-hop or K-rap, is a subgenre of the South Korean popular music.". This page has a template mentioning that the article is written from the person's own perspective. I never mention this in the original post because I wasn't sure if it was good enough as evidence if K-Pop is a music genre or not.

I also know of another discussion about this that isn't on Wikipedia.

Well, I still think K-Pop is a music genre (reasons listed at the top of the discussion), but my opinion can't be used all across, so maybe a RfC could work, especially seeing how popular K-Pop is. —Tonkarooson (talk) 22:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tonkarooson: An RfC would not be a good idea right now. If you feel strongly about this, you should first do research on how reliable, independent, secondary sources describe K-Pop or the music industry in East Asia generally. This would require you to look at reliable sources that specialize in music. I'm not an expert in this area, but I would imagine some examples would be Rolling Stone or its East Asian peers. You might also look at articles in academic journals which study these industries. Without this kind of evidence, you will not be able to convince the rest of the community that you are correct. Sergecross73 and QuietHere both seem knowledgeable about music publications and general research. You should ask them if they know of any places where you could start your search. As a bonus, your research could help you improve the Korean hip hop page in the meantime. — Wug·a·po·des 21:15, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds great, and fun! But how exactly sources would find the correct answer if this is mostly about opinions and original research some? —Tonkarooson (talk) 23:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On Wikipedia, we follow WP:V - we go by what reliable sources say. Original research is a problem when it comes directly from editors like you and me. It's not a problem when it comes from publications like Billboard or Rolling Stone.

My two cents, as I think I mentioned before, would be to take much more time learning Wikipedia and how it works before pursuing this. This is bound to be a rather high level, contentious discussion. I'd work on learning the basics first. (No offense, but even though your account is 5 years old, you're just over 400 edits. That's not very much.) Sergecross73 msg me 13:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So, what should I start first with, learn more about Wikipedia or what @Wugapodes had said?

I had forgotten that I had a Wikipedia account. This is also easy to see I'm not a long time editor —Tonkarooson (talk) 20:56, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Kavitha R Off (15:48, 21 June 2024)[edit]

How to create page? --Kavitha R Off (talk) 15:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-26[edit]

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Editors will notice that there have been some changes to the background color of text in the diff view, and the color of the byte-change numbers, last week. These changes are intended to make text more readable in both light mode and dark mode, and are part of a larger effort to increase accessibility. You can share your comments or questions on the project talkpage. [11]
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DYK[edit]

Hi Wugapodes, I've made a special holding area for the Olympics but WugBot throws a spanner in the works. Any suggestions how to ensure that it stays there? Schwede 66 06:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Schwede66 The section needs to be below the standard special occasion holding area heading, but before the Approved Nominations header. Once WugBot encounters ==Special occasion holding area== it treats everything as part of the SOHA and keeps it as-is until it encounters ==Approved nominations== where it starts processing nominations again. As long as the holding area is between those two, it should stick around. — Wug·a·po·des 20:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explainer and thank you also for fixing this already. Much appreciated. Schwede 66 03:42, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Tonkarooson (07:04, 25 June 2024)[edit]

Hi again, my current mentor is still away even though that message went away lol. Here are the questions I had sent to him that I really want to know the answer to:

Is there a userbox template where it isn't a drop box?
Is it possible to have more than one mentors/have two separate people to adopt the same user?
Do I need special permission or ask high rank editor to make pages that are not articles? —Tonkarooson (talk) 07:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tonkarooson

I don't understand what you mean by "drop box"? What templates have you been looking at?
Formally, I don't know how those processes work well enough to say for sure, but informally yes most long-term editors have had many informal mentors so you're welcome to ask for support from anyone you like.
Usually not. What kind of page were you thinking of making and why?

— Wug·a·po·des 20:43, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On the Wikipedia app, you can click on the infobox for it to be viewed but if you click it again it goes away and is smaller.
Awesome! That's so great to know!
Like redirects, archives, or having another page for my user page (eg. User:insert username/blah blah etc). I can just do those on my own? And why? Because of discussions about wanting to change the article name and adding a redirect page or redirects to the thing that isn't an article (eg. Fire Alarm (Lil Uzi Vert song), or Autistic).

—Tonkarooson (talk) 22:36, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(1) I don't know anything about the app, so I don't think I can help here. You might want to ask at The Tea House or The Technical Village Pump. (3) You can just make those on your own, but read the guideline on redirects first. Also, don't make archives or subpages for anyone without their permission because it is considered rude. — Wug·a·po·des 21:24, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the template I was using: Template:Userboxes. —Tonkarooson (talk) 23:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from SpiderParth (11:22, 29 June 2024)[edit]

please help me learn coding in wikipidea --SpiderParth (talk) 11:22, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 July newsletter[edit]

The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.

The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:

Generalissima (submissions) with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 featured article on DeLancey W. Gill, 11 good articles, 18 did you know nominations, and dozens of reviews;
Skyshifter (submissions) with 673 points, mostly from 2 featured articles on Worlds (Porter Robinson album) and I'm God, 5 good articles, and 2 did you know nominations;
Sammi Brie (submissions) with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on KNXV-TV, 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and
AryKun (submissions) with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Great cuckoo-dove, with a high number of bonus points from that article.

The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:30, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]