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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 23:09, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

9 June 2018 'free Tommy Robinson' protests[edit]

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An entirely redundant duplication of material already covered in the Tommy Robinson (activist) biography. I simply can't see what the purpose of this article is, and it does nothing to demonstrate that protests which took place in 2018 have any independent notability. Robinson is clearly a significant person, fully deserving of encyclopaedic coverage. This article however treats specific events in isolation, and decontextualises them in a manner that does no service to the reader at all. And then struggles to find enough to say about the protests themselves, the supposed article topic, since the majority of the article instead concerns itself with events that led up to them: events again fully explained, in a much broader context, in the Robinson biography. If there was anything of real significance here to justify merging into the biography, I'd propose that instead, but since there appears not to be, it should simply be deleted, as the unnecessary fork it clearly is. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:14, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:26, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:26, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Agree that this is largely a repeat of material at Tommy Robinson (activist) and isn't worth a separate spinoff article.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 19:51, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - everything except the final paragraph is not about the demonstrations. There's clearly no long-lasting ramifications about the demonstrations. No need for a separate article. Sionk (talk) 20:15, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Clearly a FORK or maybe even POINT-y example. I can't see any reason for this to exist. It's a blog-post, at most.. Not needed as an article, certainly. doktorb wordsdeeds 21:15, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • At least transfer more text to Tommy Robinson (activist) page. Currently the Tommy Robinson page has two sentences on the rally. Namely:
On the weekends following Robinson's arrest, his supporters held rallies in his support.[1][2] Demonstrators prevented a Muslim woman from driving a bus,[3] performed Nazi salutes, threw scaffolding, glass bottles and street furniture at police and damaged vehicles and buildings.[4]
There should at least be a mention of "over ten thousand protesters[2] blocked the roads around Trafalgar Square and some attacked police, injuring five officers", that is in the lede of the 9 June 2018 'free Tommy Robinson' protests. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 21:46, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There doesn't seem to be any obvious reason why you couldn't have added that to the biography in the first place. Why did it need a separate article? AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:42, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Had not had any luck making edits to the article earlier. It seemed carefully guarded by people who didn't want changes. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 18:59, 23 July 2021 (UTC) Why did it need a separate article? as I've said before, when 10,000 people block roads around Trafalgar Square and five cops are injured, that seems like a notable event. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 19:04, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You seem to be saying that because your edits to the biography were reverted (with what to me looks like a clearly-worded proposal that you discuss them on the article talk page), you created this article to include the material instead? If so, I suggest you read WP:POVFORK. And try actually discussing things when asked, rather than going off in a huff to do your own thing... AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:23, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Working with poor connectivity, spending a couple of hours or more writing something to fit in what's already written, going through news article, making sure you have your facts right ... and then see it deleted minutes later with a throw away "A lot has been removed that needs discussion etc". Yes its frustrating and yes it encourages you find another area that (you hope) is more time cost effective. That being said I think 9 June 2018 'free Tommy Robinson' protests stands on its own, though obviously I'm outvoted. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 23:39, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Have to correct myself. I had forgotten. I created the soon to be deleted 9 June 2018 'free Tommy Robinson' protests article April 24 2021, BEFORE adding to Tommy Robinson (activist) (April 26). --Louis P. Boog (talk) 16:30, 29 July 2021 (UTC) So at the risk of changing my story, rereading the article it wasn't just the 10,000 demonstrators it was also "The Guardian newspaper described the arrest as cementing Robinson’s journey from "fringe player" to what Rob Ford of the University of Manchester called “a valuable niche in the radical-right ecosystem” --Louis P. Boog (talk) 16:35, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Doesn't need a separate article. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 08:07, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - These protests can be covered at the subject's article. There is nothing to suggest that they had the kind of impact (in terms of coverage, notability or legacy) that would be needed for them to require a separate article. Dunarc (talk) 20:33, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Clear case of WP:COATRACKing as most of this information is already covered in the Tommy Robinson (activist). This lengthy and obscure title is not suitable for a redirect either. Frank AnchorTalk 17:44, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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