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Metropolitan Borough Vote Share Changes Discrepancy

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As mentioned earlier on this page, although not resolved then, there is a discrepancy among the change reported for councils which elect 1/3 of their councillors in each election, such as the current metropolitan boroughs. For all of the pages I've encountered, the per-ward change in vote share is reported from the last election to that term, four years prior, however, for the change in vote share across the council, it's split between the change from the election most recent or from the election four years prior.

In my opinion, it makes the most sense to have both changes from the same point, and to have that point be from four years prior. In all elections, incumbency plays a role, and in local elections especially, so to disregard the effect it has in the small scale would be to muddle the picture of the results, even if slightly. Other elections on Wikipedia which contain cycles of representatives elected with an offset take the shifts from the election for that seat, most notably those of the US Senate (see these examples). If we were to refer to reputable sources which record results by council, namely the work done by Rallings and Thrasher (e.g. [1]), these vote swings are from the election four years prior.

Finally, I wanted to give a hypothetical example of how representing the change in vote share from the most recent election (whether one or two years before) can be confusing. Now, I don't know if this has happened, but it's a reasonable situation that we should try to consider. Imagine a situation where 4 incumbents defect to form their own party and win reelection in 2024. They don't run candidates in the next two elections, but all four run again in 2028. If, say, two win and two lose, we'd show the party having lost two seats, but next to the vote share, it'd say New. And to me, if I saw that, it wouldn't make sense. I know this is only an example, but I think it shows how going off of the most recent election and not the one four years before can make things more confusing and harder to understand. AnOpenBook (talk) 04:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article for creation: The Chris Smith List

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Not sure if I can add this to “Articles for creation”, as it isn’t drafted. I think the LGBT+ Labour campaign fund The Chris Smith List could be notable enough for an article - anyone care to have a go? TrottieTrue (talk) 22:14, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Chancellor

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Hi I think all holder of the Lord High Chancellor of Great Britain should have this in their info box, because you need consistency and also have the Monarch and Prime Minister as well.86.147.210.198 (talk) 18:08, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Museum of London#Requested move 29 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Reading Beans 07:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General election results - the full compendium

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In case anyone else hasn't yet noticed it, let me introduce you to:

Cracknell, Richard; Baker, Carl (18 July 2024). "General election 2024 results" (PDF). House of Commons Library.

A compendium of all the results, tabulated by party, region, etc. Potential useful authoritative source for lots of constituency or MP articles. (I spotted it when an IP added it as a bare URL ref, and with a space before the ref, in Westmorland and Lonsdale (UK Parliament constituency), in which I take an interest having delivered many leaflets there). PamD 20:05, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should notional 2019 results be included?

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There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Parliament constituencies#Notional election results which may be of interest to members of this project. PamD 18:07, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And it's now become an RfC: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Parliament constituencies#RfC on Notional results and listing of result outcomes PamD 08:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]