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Babel

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Babel lets you view and edit more than one language on Wikidata. Just add e.g. {{#babel:de-N|en-3|es-1|fr-2|nl-3|it-4|da-0}} to your user page. With the same language codes you can add links to your userpage on Wikipedia e.g. de:User:User123. --Tobias1984 (talk) 21:47, 26 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Ah, thanks - hate rating myself, so it might be abit low, just in case. TherasTaneel (talk) 16:48, 3 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Merging items

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Hallo Theras,

When you are merging items, please use the Merge.js gadget. It helps you nominating, gives the option to always keep the lower number (which is older, so preferable) and makes it a lot easier for the admins to process the requests.

With regards,
-      - (Cycn/talk) 19:57, 3 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, I'll try to remember that one. TherasTaneel (talk) 05:05, 21 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Skabelon:Infoboks_Adelsslægt

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Im not sure, but think something went wrong with the connection between th danish page, and the item here. Or, the item simply needs to be develop in order to serve the different records to the local templates.

Speaking about that, when I looked on an item some 30 minutes ago, (an item that looked much more suitable for this template) one thing was missing, which should be applied also for dynasties and noble families, the year for when they went extinct, in case of that they are not still living. But Im not sure how to fix that. Dan Koehl (talk) 21:18, 17 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

I'm not certain what you mean when you say the connection is wrong, but as I've seen you write somewhere the danish da:Skabelon:Infoboks Adelsslægt is made from the swedish sv:Mall:Faktamall adelsätt. The danish one have parameters as e.g. "uddød_dk" and "sidste_mandlige_medlem_dk" which are rather limiting, instead of the swedish one that have certain ones, and in addition optional entries for a random piece of land, so it clearly needs more work, but you'd better talk to the creator of the template about that (perhaps in the da:Skabelondiskussion:Infoboks Adelsslægt), as that type of templates isn't my...area of "expertise" :) If I've misunderstood your question or can be of help, don't hesitate to enquire further. TherasTaneel (talk) 21:37, 17 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

I actually created both, the swedish one some years ago, and yes copied it over to the danish, although not totally completed. What I mean is, that when looking on the danish variety da:Skabelondiskussion:Infoboks Adelsslægt, and then click on to the left on "Wikidataobject", I come to the swedish template sv:Mall:Faktamall adelsätt item Q11063144, with only two instances (one, Dynasti, is I believe only for royal families?).

That pages language interwiki links also looks very confusing, some links are to corresponding templates on other language s, while some go to royal dynasty templates, which most often are separated from noble families.

Maybe this is correct, and the idea is that all noble family templates should meet and merge here, I dont know, but: if you open and read da:Skabelon:Infoboks Adelsslægt and you can see some calls to wikidata: (P53), (P94) , (P237), (P18), (P2096), (P495), (P571), (P1249) etc, which gives me the impression that this danish template was linked to another wikidata item before, which had all those specified records. I may of course be totally wrong with this, and I certainly dont blame anyone, just saw that made some edits, and decided I should ask you. thanks for your work, Dan Koehl (talk) 23:39, 17 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hi, sorry for the late reply. I mean user:Rodejong, who started the danish Infoboks Adelsslægt. Anyway, I moved da:Skabelon:Infoboks fyrstehus to "Infobox royal house" at Q23734317, because it says in the template that it's the equivalent, although the naming "fyrstehus" isn't exactly the same as "royal house", but close. And the new Infoboks Adelsslægt to Q11063144, which is for "Infobox noble house". I agree that there are a few, if not many of the language interwiki links that seem to be better linked with Infobox royal house than noble house based on the template naming, but there are also to consider how the template is used in a certain language, despite its name. If you want to, you are free to move them to the correct item, if you're sure its usage is the same, I thought about doing it, but then decided to leave it to the users of those specific templates to correct any mistake themselves. TherasTaneel (talk) 22:27, 21 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Translation request

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Hello.

Can you create en:List of political parties in Azerbaijan and en:Template:Azerbaijani political parties in Danish Wikipedia?

Yours sincerely, A2D2 (talk) 17:48, 12 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Isabelle de Charriere

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Where can I find the article of Isabelle de Charriere in the Danish Wikipedia? Thanks in advance for the writing. Boss-well63 (talk) 14:43, 20 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hi, not anywhere currently, as it haven't been written yet. But I'm sure once it's started, it will be added to the others at Q123386. TherasTaneel (talk) 00:32, 22 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
Could you write/translate such an article in Danish or find someone else?Boss-well63 (talk) 22:23, 23 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Flertydig på Wikidata

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Jeg bemærkede lige Ole Andersen (Q90500188). Bemærk at den slags "flertydige sider" ikke er nødvendige på Wikidata. Jeg finder dem ofte til mere besvær end gavn. --Hjart (talk) 11:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hej, hvad mener du med at de ikke er nødvendige? Hvis man fra andre sprog vil finde en flertydig side at kæde sammen med samme flertydige side, er det rart at kunne se hvilken en af er hvad. Beskrivelsen bliver som regel udfyldt af en bot, som desuden ville have oprettet den alligevel. TherasTaneel (talk) 00:29, 15 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
Ok Som en måde at kæde flertydighedssider på diverse Wikipedias sammen, kan jeg godt se det. Men når jeg på Wikidata søger på eks. "Ole Andersen" sætter jeg pris på at der ikke er flere emner end højst nødvendigt + at der er passende beskrivelser på dem der er (hvilket der ikke var på den du lige havde oprettet). Jeg er også stødt på masser af wikidata emner med enslydende labels, hvor der ikke har været flertydigheds emner imellem, så jeg har måske været lidt forvænt. --Hjart (talk) 06:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Personer i DBL uden statsborgerskab

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Der er pt ~460 personer med Dansk Biografisk Leksikon ID (P8341), men uden country of citizenship (P27). Måske du kan kigge på nogen af dem? --Hjart (talk) 06:32, 30 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

SELECT ?menneske ?menneskeLabel ?menneskeDescription WHERE {
   SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "da,en". }
   ?menneske wdt:P31 wd:Q5;
     wdt:P8341 ?Dansk_Biografisk_Leksikon_ID.
   MINUS { ?menneske wdt:P27 ?statsborgerskab.
 } }
Try it!
Heh ok, hvis du/andre ikke er færdige med dem, kigger jeg gerne på det også. Iøvrigt... DNF film ID (P1804)Q1407094 henviser til en kortfilm kaldt "112", måske er det sådan med alle film i filmdatabasen som indeholder tal i titlen, dunno. TherasTaneel (talk) 20:29, 13 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Modersmålsnavne

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Hvis du opretter name in native language (P1559) (for mænd ofte mere passende end fødenavn) vil jeg forholdsvist enkelt kunne masseoprette given name (P735) og family name (P734) automatisk ved hjælp af et script.--Hjart (talk) 18:26, 27 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Aha, altså i stedet for birth name (P1477) eller? Tak i øvrigt for koordinater diverse steder, har ikke helt fundet ud af det endnu. TherasTaneel (talk) 18:35, 27 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Jeg har ofte set brugere af andre scripts (kyrillisk osv) sætte name in native language (P1559).
Med hensyn til koordinater, så plejer jeg at finde stedet på https://www.openstreetmap.org, klikke "Del" -> "tilføj", kopiere alt efter den næstsidste skråstreg i adresselinjen og så skifte den sidste skråstreg ud med et komma og indsætte i WD.--Hjart (talk) 18:41, 27 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Ok, ja. Hmm, det var ikke så svært igen, ser ud til at lykkedes, tak :) TherasTaneel (talk) 18:51, 27 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
I små landsbyer og lign. er 4 decimaler ofte passende og ved almindelige villaer 5.--Hjart (talk) 20:17, 27 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

EHF spiller ID

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Hvordan bærer du dig ad med at finde European Handball Federation player ID (P3573)?--Hjart (talk) 16:48, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hejsa - ved at google navnet + eurohandball, så fremkommer (som regel) en url der begynder med history.eurohandball og så står nummeret et sted til sidst. Der er sikkert andre måder at gøre det på, men kender dem ikke :) TherasTaneel (talk) 00:59, 23 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Call for participation in a task-based online experiment

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Engelske beskrivelser for danske byer

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Jeg tror lige jeg kører en batch med en descriptions for danske byer, Det er væsentlig hurtigere end at gøre det manuelt. Hjart (talk) 12:06, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Fint :) Hmm, en af de ting jeg mangler at finde ud af hvordan man gør... er det også en "batch" når folk f.eks. tilføjer 235 labels på samtidigt? TherasTaneel (talk) 12:14, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Jeg har just halvautomatisk lavet 634 engelske beskrivelser af diverse danske landsbyer med ingen eller "håbløse" eksisterende beskrivelser. Det kalder vi ofte en "batch". Jeg vil meget gerne forsøge at sætte interesserede ind i hvordan jeg gør. Jeg bruger simple standard linux værktøjer, som jeg vil mene de fleste vil kunne lære at bruge. Man skal naturligvis kende dem og fange ideen i forbindelse med wikidata :-). Hjart (talk) 13:09, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Det lyder... nemt, sådan da. Bliver ikke lige nu, men for at starte et sted, skal man have linux? TherasTaneel (talk) 13:18, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
At have Linux gør det selvfølgeligt noget nemmere ;-). Men jeg laver de fleste af mine scripts på kommandolinjen, så egentlig skal man bare have en "Bash" terminal og det tror jeg man kan få til alle systemer i dag. Bemærk at man ikke behøver nogen særligt kraftig maskine til det og derfor sagtens vil kunne klare sig med f.eks. en da:Raspberry Pi. Hjart (talk) 13:35, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Med en "Bash" terminal mener jeg da:bash. Hjart (talk) 14:44, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Automated report of empty item: Q12332602

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Automated report of empty item: Q12341862

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Call for participation in a task-based online experiment

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Dear TherasTaneel,

I hope you are doing well,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King's College London, and I am working on a project as part of my PhD research, in which I have developed a personalised recommender model that suggests Wikidata items for the editors based on their past edits. I am inviting you to a task-based study that will ask you to provide your judgments about the relevance of the items suggested by our model based on your previous edits. Participation is completely voluntary, and your cooperation will enable us to evaluate the accuracy of the recommender system in suggesting relevant items to you. We will analyse the results anonymised, and they will be published to a research venue.

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Registering af folketingsmedlemmer og andre parlamentariker

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Hej. Jeg kigger på folketingsmedlemmer på Wikidata og jeg gennemgå dem løbende. Men jeg kan se at du også har kigget på. Men du ikke registeret på en måde, så det kan bruges i Wikidata:WikiProject every politician. Her skal også parliamentary group (P4100) og særdeles parliamentary term (P2937) registres. Og jeg bruger det i rapporterne da:Wikipedia:WikiProjekt Folketinget/valgt for at se hvem vi har og hvem vi mangler. For du har kun registret start time (P580) og end time (P582). Det er ikke nok, når det skal bruges til noget. Og start- og sluttidspunkt kan dette tilfælge hentes fra angivelse af valgperiode.. Steenth (talk) 12:25, 15 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Nogle steder står der intet andet end at de f.eks. har været folketingsmedlem men uden kilde, start- og/eller sluttidspunkt, så jeg tilføjer hvor det kan findes - det er en start. Jeg gik egentlig ud fra en bot på et tidspunkt ville blive sat til automatisk at angive valgperioderne ud fra disse. Under Kategori:Parlamentariske grupper findes der to danske artikler, og jeg har i de fleste tilfælde ikke den fjerneste idé om hvor jeg skulle finde info om hvilke partier er med i hvilke parlamentariske grupper i en bestemt tidsperiode, gør du? Men jeg skal bestræbe mig fremover at tilføje hvad du efterspørger. TherasTaneel (talk) 14:51, 15 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Det er svært at håndtere den slags i Wikidata med bot uden at kode noget til formålet.
Jeg kigget lidt på de de grupper. Den Nordatlantiske Gruppe kan jeg ikke se noget direkte på ft.dk, da medlemmerne af gruppen er blevet registeret under deres parti i den periode, hvor gruppen var der. Spørgsmålet om vi skal gøre noget af den gruppe. Frihed 2000 er registeret på dem, som var medlem af gruppen. Steenth (talk) 21:52, 15 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Steenth: Er det sådan det skal være, eller opdelt på hver enkelt periode? og... når jeg nu har dig, hvor/hvordan indstiller man så der kan redigeres label osv. på andre sprog? Med mindre andre har skrevet noget først, ser den ud til at have som standard engelsk, dansk, tysk, spansk, fransk, italiensk og hollandsk, jeg ville gerne som minimum kunne tilføje på norsk og svensk også. TherasTaneel (talk) 08:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Jeg er kigget Søren Peter Larsen (Q12338566). Der mangler parliamentary group (P4100) - den bør være fra valget i 1918. Du kan se på da:Wikipedia:WikiProjekt Folketinget/valgt/1932. Det vil være oplagt at tilføje hans afløser ved hans død. Men når det er lagt sammen i en indgang, så vil afløserne være på alle rapporter. Og den er kun relevant i den valgperiode, hvor hans ikke mere er medlem af folketinget. Jeg bruger i rapporten afløser til at op imod listen af valgte. For 1932 er det da:Folketingsmedlemmer valgt i 1932. Så det vil give støj, hvis der i rapporten henvises til artikler, som ikke er listen over valgte.
Ellers kan jeg godt lide at du angiver end cause (P1534).
Jeg har overvejet at Rigsdagens Medlemmer gennem Hundrede Aar 1848-1948 angives i described by source (P1343) - det kunne give en liste a.la. Wikipedia:WikiProjekt Trap Danmark/artikeloversigt 3. udgave
Sprogvalg i brugergrænsefladen styres af function Babel, som er i ens brugerside. Steenth (talk) 19:36, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hmm, jeg har forsøgt at tilføje hans efterfølger og umiddelbart hvad der manglede, er dog stadig ikke helt sikker på om alle perioderne skulle deles op i hver sin, eller rapporten viser som den skal nu og hvad du mener med "den bør være fra valget i 1918", hvaffor en den? TherasTaneel (talk) 04:05, 28 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Unnamed

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Re: your edits on Bent Juel-Jensen (Q108753873), I don't understand your comment, "‎then note it with a reason." What are you asking for here? Can you be more clear? I commented that he does not appear on this seemlingly complete list of Bodley Medal recipients [1]. Skvader (talk) 16:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

I ask you do what I did for you, give it a reason for deprecated rank instead of removing it, while it likely incorrect it still what's stated in the ref, this way it doesn't need to be removed repeatedly. TherasTaneel (talk) 16:34, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Combining Sigbjørn (Q3481852) & Sigbjörn (Q30881537)

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Hello. You recently made a separate ID for Sigbjörn (Q30881537) from Sigbjørn (Q3481852). Both of these are the exact same name, only differing in regional spelling (ø vs ö). Could you combine them as it was? Blockhaj (talk) 11:07, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi. Yes I did as they are not the same, spelling variants have different entries and external identifiers. The only ones combined (and in some cases not) are gender neutral names and cyrillic versions. The usual for variants is to link them with P460 and make a redirect to whichever article is created covering them in any given language. Off the top of my head, for an example see Henric (Q21147934), which in certain cases is variant of Henrik (Q594279). Hope it help. TherasTaneel (talk) 13:31, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
The spelling here simply refers to regional variants of the same letter (ø in Denmark, Norway = ö in Sweden, Finland, Iceland), thus the spelling is technically the same and cannot be compared to Henric and Henrik. An Icelandic person by the name of Sigbjörn would have his named spelled as Sigbjørn if he moved to Norway and vice versa. By separating the names the interwiki links doesnt work. Blockhaj (talk) 16:25, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
That's how interwiki works and is limited, it's 1:1. And to take your example of " An Icelandic person by the name of Sigbjörn would have his named spelled as Sigbjørn if he moved to Norway and vice versa.": Yes, that's common, but not always the case. Spelling variations can't all be lumped into a single entry. TherasTaneel (talk) 16:32, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
In this case i feel we should make an exception, as Scandinavians do not consider ø and ö as separate letters and thus i feel we should apply the same rules as per cyrillic etc. This separation seems very unnecessary and will just confuse readers. A similar case would also be done for the name Boelcke which is changed to Bölcke in Swedish etc. Blockhaj (talk) 16:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
"Scandinavians" consider very much ø and ö as separate letters. Same as spelling variants e.g. with Ch, K or just plain C. As I don't know where such things would be discussed in general, as things are not usually done willy-nilly, if you wish to remove the swedish WP-link from Sigbjörn and place it back on Sigbjørn I won't stop you. While I got you, do you remember any swedish identifiers for names? I know I've seen it somewhere, but doesn't seem to be displayed on the template with the rest of the swedish related ones. TherasTaneel (talk) 17:09, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
While i cant speak for every Scandinavian, ø and ö are very much the same letter, both stemming from Œ/ᚯ, it just has two regional symbols. Either way. I'm no expert on Wikidata, what identifies are you referring too? Blockhaj (talk) 17:29, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Like the ones at the bottom of Q12796, external references to databases and such, I remember it as being very short just about four letters with ID attached at the end. Doesn't matter much if you don't know it, I guess I'll find it eventually, would just be nice to be able to put in already :) TherasTaneel (talk) 17:41, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yea sorry can't help you directly but some guesses would be NE (Q1165538), SAOB (Q1935308), SCB (Q1472511), ISOF (Q7654721), Swedish History Museum (Q1726607, see https://historiska.se/nomina/?nomina_name) if that helps? Blockhaj (talk) 17:59, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Well, it's a great start, if nothing else I think I can use at least some of those thanks :) TherasTaneel (talk) 16:42, 4 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

"Hentet den" for trykte bøger

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Hej. Jeg så lige din redigering af Theodor Madsen (Q12343084). Det er unødvendigt af bruge retrieved (P813) når kilden er en trykt bog. Den ændrer sig aldrig efter den er trykt, så det gør ingen forskel hvornår du har kigget i bogen. Du bruger sandsynligvis en scannet kopi i stedet for en papirudgave, men gør i princippet ingen forskel. Den bestemte udgave af bogen kan ikke ændres. Dipsacus fullonum (talk) 15:30, 24 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hej, det er mere gjort for at kunne se hvornår det er hentet, i stedet for at man skal lede i historikken, så hvis der er sket en fejl ved indtastningen kan det lettere rettes, eller brugeren gjort opmærksom på problemet (eller gentagne fejl) TherasTaneel (talk) 15:34, 24 July 2024 (UTC)Reply