are these two gentlemen the gods of our nation? no they are human beings, why are we giving them this publicity.

The country has policies - no presidential third term, the ANC has recommended that the next ANC pres becomes the pres of RSA. Thabo Mbeki is making a furse of the issue and ultimately a fool of himself. It's clear, Thabo must step down, the ANC must choose its desired leader and the country must continue to grow. The US voted for Bush for a second term because of fear for terrorrism, where are the terrorists? We are made to fear an economical meltdown should Zuma (in particular) become president of the ANC, but I ask why should that happen. Mbeki worked for the ANC and the country for its embetterment, should that be the case then none should have fear because we will continue to grow. He did a tremendous job, people are now aware on how to empower themselves. But now there need's to be change in leadership and drive! The ANC (as I expect they'll win the next national elections) need's to focus on the people who are still suffering to this day and I hope and believe that will be the ANC's agenda for its next term. Zuma is a popular leader, the ANC is an intelligent and intellectual party, therefore I don't think they would choose him for no reason, he must possess all the qualities required to lead. Thabo must step down, power corrupts! Unless he's affraid that the next leadership will expose his involvement in some or many corruption cases, then he needs to be proud of what he has achieved and move forth, if there are unfinished agendas, he's still a member of the ANC, he should help the party move forth.

hahahahahahha, I'm not laughing but I'm just expressing my idiocy, stupidity and moronism as the anonymous who called us twits wrote. The reality from today onwards has started to set in on many of you who believe that this class society that has been created by Mbeki will last. For poor people like us who knows about hardships of growing up in a shack, not having any more for school is like, not having university fees, and despite moneys being made available yet turned down because you have bad grades which are a result of inferior education that we were taught (bantu ) education) being punished for not having political connections and denied the right to have a job. Watch the chioldren of so and so, graduate from Varsity and come to be your director at 24 years old and you have been sitting in the same position with the same grade and a lot of expirience. Do you know what is like to be the only employed family member earning R6000 a month and taking care of extended family members up to 20 plus, without a house, and being denied the righjt to housing simply because you work for the government and you earn too much? (sdo they say.) Msholozi must take power and let him create a Huge Government construction company that will deal with building houses for the poor and the flats for those who choose not to have houses. If yopu can take one area that have slums and you clear that land and build one flat that will accomodate all the families living in those shacks. This segregation of the haves and the have nots is creating the same South Africa that we fought against. Who is laughing last now. The people shall gorven. Mbeki is the victim of his own sermons. He has been preching that African leaders should learn when to quit and he must practice what he preaches. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. See Zimbabwe today, Mugabe is exactly what Mbeki is. He has always been Africa's good boy and he clinged to power despite all odds and today, the Zimbabwe we know is no more. The same will happen to South Africa if we allow Mbeki to continue even further. Mandela has set a very good example and I think its high time that he speak to Mbeki to quit and let the movement use him elsewhere to further the ANC's political ambitions abroad - peace and prosperity for all Africans in Africa and the Diaspora. Peace be upon you all.

It is painful that President Mbeki never wanted to be under anybody in the movement except for Tata Oliver Tambo. He must please put where his mouth is when it comes to leaders not wanting to step down. Why does he not want to step down. Why break the tradition? Alex Nyathi

All I can say is I'm behind the them( Zuma or Mbeki) I'm all for a person that is gonna change this nation, not a person who's gonna drive some gravy train. All we need is more infrastructure, jobs and more jobs, business opportunities, the whole lot that the government promised to give us. There's still shacks, unemployed people, youth that is illeterate??? Those are the things that we need to combat. We need result. And to quiet frankly, I haven't seen any except for for the big guys driving their big cars.

I'm a Xhosa from Western Cape, I'm very happy with the victory of Zuma. People may try to traditionalise this but in truthness, two centres of power is a disaster. I happened to have worked for W/Cape Provincial Government, I witness and was a victim of being labelled a Africanist by Rassol and also he was just ignoring the PEC, not respecting their mandate and did like he likes, to hime PEC was like small dogs barking. He knew that he has the support of Mbeki at our expense. Rassol fought with ANC in the Cape over media, using state resources and the same dirty tactics as Mbeki. If you one looks at worse performing provinces, its where the chairperson is one person and the Premier is another person, W/Cape, E/Cape, Mpumalanga, Free State. I hate the fact that Mbeki never intervened in the Western Cape and Africans from the Western Cape were victims of Rassol. Its only now it was clear that he wanted to use Rasool and Ngculu to win votes in that province, but I love the fact that it was not a land slide victory. Viva Zuma, Viva pro poor era, Down with two centres of power. Finally there will be unity in the ANC

people must not find comfort in threatening us to leave of what use are they when they are here? i believe that most of us want serious change and they must just admit change is painful moreso if you are comfortable and thinking that the uncomfortable will make you uncomfortable. Please just think of the rural masses who were promised better life before TM and Peter Mayibuye opted for Gear as opposed to RDP. those who have access to the internet must think before writing nothing in many words. Think about those who still do not have Electricity, Access to clean running water and sanitation those who walk miles to the nearest health centre. we do not need empty rhetorics and baseless assumptions about our leaders. WE do not need a messiah what we need is a leader who will lead us out of this abjectsufferings. think of the matriculants who were promised access to education and do not have money to foot the registration fees, please you spoilt brats spear us the irony of mischief and face life this is not the bolod and the beautiful but S.A

I really dont care who becomes president either Zuma or Mbeki, my only worry is that we must continue to build S.A.We have world cup in 2010 lets be consistant.People were happy when Mbeki came in ten years back saying changes are gonna be seen or they are going to get better position it was never to be.The very same people wants Zuma ,see what they gonna say in 5 years time.People we are a 3rd world country, who ever becomes president growth and progress are still gonna be slow.For God sake we dont have money in S.A to employ every one or create jobs for every one.

Time for people who are suffering from media fellowship syndrome about Mr Zuma to leave this country as their fears approaches. Lets just face it NPA even today they should have charged Mr Zuma. Our current Pres was Chair of arms deal Proce. Why is everyone not intertaining that? Cause there is noway that is you wanted the tender could not have passed there for aproval. Lets be fair and not let our disorder that we receive from the media obscure our analytical thinking.

All you moronic twits who voted for Zuma I hope you get what you deserve.