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| Adults 18-49: Rating/Share | 4.2/11 | 3.7/9 | 3.3/9 | 2.1/5 | 1.5/4 | 0.4/1 |
| Adults 18-34: Rating/Share | 3.3/9 | 3.1/9 | 2.9/8 | 1.8/5 | 1.6/5 | 0.5/1 |
| Total Viewers (million) | 13.13 | 10.01 | 10.17 | 5.61 | 4.09 | .98 |
Led by its comedies (well, at least three out of four of them) CBS won the night with adults 18-49, and easily with total viewers. The Big Bang Theory hit series highs both with adults 18-49 and total viewers, and the 100th episode of How I Met Your Mother pulled its best numbers since last spring.
Two and a Half Men had its best 18-49 performance since last February and its best average audience numbers since December 2008.
FOX came in second topped by House and a special airing of Fringe that destroyed Heroes in head-to-head competition. It was Heroes lowest-rated telecast ever.
The special Monday episode of Fringe performed about the same out of House as the typical episode of Lie To Me has done. Though it’s not necessarily an either or situation, odds seem long that both shows will come back and so it will be interesting to continue keeping an eye on how Fringe is doing on Thursdays. Lie to Me is off the schedule for a while due to the return of 24.
With a strong lead-in from The Bachelor (which was up over 9% with adults 18-49) Castle improved its 18-49 average versus its last original airing by 24%.
Here’s what NBC PR had to say about Chuck:
- At 8 p.m. ET, the regular-slot season premiere of “Chuck” (2.6 rating, 7 share in adults 18-49, 7.3 million viewers overall) scored the show’s highest regular-slot results in 18-49 and total viewers since the special 3-D telecast on February 2, 2009, the night after the Super Bowl. It was also the biggest total-viewer average for NBC in this time period with regular programming since that February 2 “Chuck.” In a time slot that last night included competition from Fox’s “House,” ABC’s “The Bachelor” and CBS’s comedies, “Chuck” generated growth from its first half-hour to its second of 8 percent in adults 18-49 (to a 2.7 from a 2.5) and 16 percent in adults 18-34 (2.2 vs. 1.9).
- Compared with NBC’s average in the time-period last season, last night’s “Chuck” is up 18 percent in 18-49 rating (2.6 vs. 2.2, live plus same day) and up 14% in total viewers (7.322 million vs. 6.409 million).
Chuck got a 2.5 A18-49 rating the first half hour and a 2.7 the last half hour.
The Jay Leno Show had its best Monday in 13 weeks. Considering its Heroes lead-in, all the PR doesn’t seem bad for NBC! Indeed, Conan edged Dave out in the late night wars with a 1.2 adults 18-49 rating vs a 1.0 for Letterman in local People Meter Markets.
Full details:
| Time | Net | Show | 18-49 Rating/Share | Viewers (Millons) |
| 8:00 | FOX | House | 4.6/12 | 12.24 |
| CBS | How I Met Your Mother | 3.9/10 | 9.82 | |
| ABC | The Bachelor: On The Wings of Love | 3.3/8 | 9.88 | |
| NBC | Chuck | 2.6/7 | 7.32 | |
| CW | One Tree Hill (R) | 0.4/1 | 1.22 | |
| 8:30 | CBS | Accidentally on Purpose | 3.2/8 | 8.52 |
| 9:00 | CBS | Two and a Half Men | 5.4/13 | 17.30 |
| ABC | The Bachelor: On The Wings of Love | 4.0/10 | 11.15 | |
| FOX | Fringe | 2.8/7 | 7.79 | |
| NBC | Heroes | 2.1/5 | 4.71 | |
| CW | Gossip Girl (R) | 0.3/1 | 0.74 | |
| 9:30 | CBS | The Big Bang Theory | 5.7/14 | 15.81 |
| 10:00 | CBS | CSI: Miami | 3.7/10 | 13.65 |
| ABC | Castle | 2.6/7 | 9.48 | |
| NBC | The Jay Leno Show | 1.6/4 | 4.79 |
You can see TV ratings from other recent Overnight ratings reports here.
All numbers are Live+SD.
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love the picture
If I am at NBC, I am doing cartwheels over Chuck right now.
So nice you pasted it twice…
Also, good numbers for three of my fave shows, Chuck, HIMYM and House….awesome!
AWESOME!!! More Chuck love…
Go HIMYM! And TBBT, of course.
Come on Castle!
If Fringe were to keep that spot with proper new episodes, I think it’d do well. I’m not in the states, but I know I wouldn’t have watched it.
Also, Chuck and HIMYM did brilliantly! HIMYM’s episode was amazing television.
Glad to see HIMYM with great ratings for its hundredth.
Also loving the picture.
Look at Chuck! Keeping relatively high numbers against very stiff competition. It’s kind of sad that such numbers are so good for NBC, but I’ll take them. And, like was the norm last season, its numbers grew from the first half hour to the next. And look at the abysmal showing of Heroes. If these numbers keep up, Chuck has to be a lock for another season. Viva la Chuck!
By the way, TBTN, why aren’t the numbers for the second half hour of the hour-long shows listed?
NBC execs are running through the offices doing high fives.
Awesome for Chuck, Two and half Man, TBBT and Fringe.
Ouch for Heroes and Accidentally on Purpose
Castle did good last night. Its a decent performer for ABC in the 10 o’clock hour. It has a very good chance of getting renewed. WOW at The Bachelor hitting highs! Must have been that whole scandal that drew in more viewers.
Fringe couldnt even average a 3.0 with that big lead-in? I think thats sad. Heroes is done.
Good for Fringe, it did better than on Thursday, not greatly but still, 2.8 is better than 2.2 and it’s better than last LTM episode. Good for Chuck, I guess, it beated heroes easily, I hoped more of a 2.8 but it’s still okay, let’s hope it is enough for NBC.
So, Fringe didn’t exactly improve on most episodes of Lie to Me.
is that series high for accidentally!!
Chuck looks fine but shame Heroes is doing so crappy.
Castle looks like it stays around 2.6-2.7 and 10M so not too bad.
Did The Bachelor won the hour in 18-34?
Wow, Chuck is now more highly rated than Heroes. I don’t know if that says more about Chuck or Heroes. Were TJLS not being cancelled, those numbers for Chuck would have been the final nail in the coffin for Heroes, but now, who knows?
Julia, correct, the new episode 18-49 average for Lie To Me this season is a 2.74. That may just be the level for “whatever follows House”
The Lie To Me vs. Fringe battle continues to get more interesting.
House woohoo! I feel bad for Heroes though, is Fringe performing better than Lie to Me in the 9pm slot?
Good for Chuck didn’t lose too many viewers from Sunday, and is up from last season, so it has some new fans! And just as I expected last night’s episode was back to chuck form, and hopefully Sunday was pleasing to new fans, and just annoying to us old fans.
FOX wasted the house lead in with a crappy episode of Fringe…
other than Heroes, everything seems to be relatively healthy
The Bachelor good, Chuck decent, House OK, HIMYM good, Two and a Half Men good (ugh) and TBBT amazzzzzzzinggggggggg (5.7?!?! holy mother)
Jaymii, Fringe did marginally better than Lie To Me in that timeslot, with a 0.1/0.2 improvement in ratings over the last 2 episodes Lie To Me. It was also a “lost” episode of Season 1 that was unaired, so things are out of order. I really wonder if 0.1/0.2 in 18-49 demos and better DVR ratings are going to balance the scale with Lie To Me being a FOX production, which it might, since Lie To Me doesn’t sell well at all in the DVD market (though syndication still remains).
That being said, good for Chuck to perform so well at that hour. It’ll probably last for another couple of years if it stays so consistent. However, the 2.1 for Heroes is probably another nail in the renewal coffin for that show. At those ratings, I’m guessing it gets a partial season order for next season to wrap things up, and that’s all she wrote.
To quote the good Captain… AWESOME.
I knew Chuck would increase big after HIMYM was over. Things are really looking good for Chuck right now.
How well did Fringe do compared to Lie to Me?
Anyway, looks like Heroes final season.
I would love to see Fringe and 24 paired together. I think they would compliment each other nicely.
You have the ratings up twice.
Also can anyone explain why the site is acting very slow today?
I can’t believe how far Heroes has fallen. From one of the hottest shows on television to less than 5 million viewers in a night. That’s just plain terrible. It has reached the point of no return by now.
I think the most encouraging info last night is that more people went to Chuck at 8:30 than had previously. We lost viewers in the second half on Sunday and most of last season. It was the second half of the show last night that really got interesting so maybe we captured a few new viewers and kept them with the cliffhanger (even though NBC blew it with the promo) for next week.
A 2.6 for CHUCK is guaranteed renewal by NBC.
Remember the glory days of NBC’s Monday nights sorta? With Deal or No Deal, Heroes, and ______________. They were pretty consistent in the 5’s eh
@rob
Get used to it. All season long, Chuck fans will hammer this site every Tuesday trying to get ratings numbers. We brought down the house multiple times last spring.
I will stick with Heroes till the end…allthough I recorded that show and watched Fringe live.
@JT
I’m pretty sure the norm last season was better ratings in the second half hour. Just about every week that happened, if I remember correctly. Sunday night was actually an abnormal occurrence. But yeah, hopefully the show pulled in some new viewers.
It seems like plenty of people are starting to jump ship on House. I’m sure Chuck will be more than happy to them. Plus, from what I hear, the Chuck episodes get REALLY good from here on out, so let’s see if high quality equals higher ratings. If the show survived that bad first hour on Sunday and got such a good numbers last night, Chuck might become a star for NBC.
I can not believe I did not win, Robert I did get the 2.6 right ( that was something). I did not think they would get 7.32, I thought the 6.7 was a good number. Do you think NBC would give Chuck 3 more shows for the season? I still think NBC should consider moving Chuck to Sundays or Weds. Mondays is too hard of a night for Chuck to get 3.0 and 10 mil.
A good night for everyone except The CW.
YES love the Chuck numbers. Hopefully BBT being moved to 9:30 is helping it. Woo hoo!!
‘Men of A Certain Age’ aired their best episode so far, last night.
I hope people are watching.
the only thing I didn’t expect here was the bachelor. I think (hope) it will drop off in coming weeks.
Guys, as Julia & Bill said, (especially based on averages), Fringe & Lie to Me performed just about the same in the post-House slot.
Don’t hate me Fringe fans, but I wonder how many people tuned in expecting to see Lie to Me. (I know I read a comment by someone elsewhere that stated that’s what happened to them.) Even if that is the case, the viewers stuck around, so that’s something.
chuck had higher ratings then ANY heroes episode this season. Goooood chances for season 3.
And heroes, well, 2.1 will not get you a full new season. And without over 20 eps it wont get near 100 so i say CANCEL.
Chuck + JJ abrahms drama => SpyDay on NBC. IF they dont program that in one of the toughest nights (if not THE thougest) it might work.
Big Bang got 5.7. The only hit on TV I don’t get at all and I don’t think I’m the only one.
Nice to see Accidentally on Purpose getting some love.
is this season high for fringe?
One could say that Fringe’s performance once again proves it is Thursday that is the problem, not the show itself. And it also heavily suggests Heroes is the sci-fi/action show of last resort for most of its viewers; given how their ratings dropped last year vs. 24, will they be in sub 2.0 territory soon?
Personally, I think that an out-of-slot airing for Fringe doing better than LtM’s recent average is all to the advantage of Fringe, but I still think Fringe’s survival hinges more on 24 coming back or not than anything else.
And a strong start for Chuck. I imagine the ratings will slide slightly over the season, leading to the usual bubble questions, but it looks like it will do well enough that WB will bite the bullet and accept a fee small enough to get another season.
Big Bang is sooooo not funny. Who the hell watches that garbage. And as was reported on various other sites, the one ultra geek character was outed as asexual. That should kep the ratings flooding in. YEEEEECH.
@Corey to the archives to see which one of our memories is busted…LOL
Is it too early to have conspiracy theories that the doctor/medical centric Chuck episode was designed to try and tug a few “House” viewers you talked about over?
If Chuck can maintain or grow those numbers it’s a lock for a fourth season.
OH, im so happy with chucks numbers! Wow… At heroes losing almost 3 milion viewers from chuck….i enjoyed Heroes last night…but it is really preforming terribly…worse and worse each years…. im afriad if they renew it next season it was sink under 4 milion.
Cool, House won 8pm w/18-34 and CBS comedies won 9pm. Bachelor was 3rd at 8pm and 2nd at 9pm.
Awesome job for Castle last night. Hopefully with next weeks episode it will keep climbing higher:) Also great job for Chuck too. Btw, I am one of the new people who started watching Chuck since coming on here to check on Castle. Glad I watched to see what all the fuss was about.
No surprise that the viewers continue to stand by that jerk Charlie Sheen.
TW, Chuck is currently in its third season so don’t you mean that Chuck has a good chance for a 4th season?
Really Tired, Who watches The Big Bang Theory? well damn near 16 million did last night.
CBS Monday still dominating Mondays! Gotta love it.
Seems to me that the one clear advantage to FOX for using Fringe instead of Lie To Me is that Fringe depresses Heroes’ ratings even further, from a 2.5/2.6 to a 2.1. On the other hand, CBS’ comedy numbers seemed to improve substantially from the norms.
So you knock down an NBC show and CBS gets better. They’d have to repeat this next week for it to be real, this is only one sample.
“Really Tired, Who watches The Big Bang Theory? well damn near 16 million did last night.”
Myself and my Dad.
Good for Chuck! I’m glad to see it kept consistent with it’s numbers! =]
Looks like the fans (and some new ones) stayed with Chuck last night. It’s a huge relief.
I think I saw somewhere that Heroes does very well overseas and has very good DVD sales – I’ve never seen the show so I only have a passing interest in this, but my guess is that for those reasons NBC Universal will want Heroes to reach syndication level. If I’ve added up correctly, a single 22 episode season order would get the show to 100. Even if it was burnt off on Friday nights, it would have to be worth it.
As a sidenote, up until recently all of the NBC Universal produced shows (even here in Australia) ended with the NBC Universal logo and the G-E-C “chimes”. But now I’m seeing “Universal Media Studios” at the end of programmes. Does anyone know why they changed? I would have thought the old logo would have been promoting NBC (free advertising).
The Big Bang Theory’s numbers are really interesting. It looks like it rose to heaven by airing new episodes against repeats of other shows in december, but didn’t give those viewers back after other shows returned to new airings. Could the juggernaut be even bigger than it used to be?
Great numbers for Chuck too. Hopefully it holds up well throughout the season (or even increase?)!
Good for Chuck but if its going to save NBC its got a long road ahead of its self. But I see NBC is trying to actually do something.
Chuck did well for an NBC show.
It is just amazing how far NBC has fallen. Here we have a show that finished last in its time slot in viewers and demo, but the 2.6 demo is a herculean victory by NBC standards and everyone is thrilled with the numbers. NBC should be ashamed to be in competition with the other networks.
@JG, not really. NBC is probably happy with Chuck, but disappointed with Heroes. In distant fourth, it’s a bittersweet day for NBC. Leno did well (for Leno) though, so they might be reasonably happy.
Also, despite being 2nd place, Fox is probably only marginally happy. They failed to destroy Chuck with the House move, and Fringe didn’t do much better than Lie to Me at 9. Probably a bittersweet day for Fox.
A word about last nights Two and 1/2 Men. WTF. . .they’re starting (or at least insinuating) a gay story line between Alan and Herb?
This could be a jump the shark moment for 2 1/2 men. No wonder Charlie Sheen recently went off the rails again.
Fabulous numbers for BBT! Mother and Men did well too, which only emphasized how weak AOP is. Dropping 0.7 from its lead in is not good. We’ll see if it can survive on Wednesdays, but I have my doubts.
Of course Fringe did better after House. We knew that from last year. The question is whether it will ever be able to stand without being spoonfed millions of viewers by a top-rated lead-in.
Chuck’s numbers are good, but I think we should wait a couple weeks to see if this will be the average or if it will fall.
And congrats to Castle for one of its best airings this season. If it can keep numbers like that, ABC will be thrilled.
Another solid showing for Castle. I was hoping Alyssa Milano would give the ratings a little bump but it’s probably better that the show stand on its own.
Chuck’s performance is making it look like Heroes is all done at the end of this season.
Alyssa Milano on Castle really helped its numbers.
Godfather, I wouldn’t equate CBS getting better to Fringe or Lie To Me.
There was no Monday Night Football or any major college bowl game action. It was the first football-free Monday of the season.
Go Chuck go!
@Really Tired Sheldon was always asexual. It’s just the crazy Sheldon/Penny fans who refuse to see it.
Controversy really does get the ratings up, look at The Bachelor. Next season they’ll have the women making out with each other.
Chuck finished fourth? They should change the name from Chuck to Suck!
Congratulations to Chuck! I’m glad it held out on Monday — even better that it beat Heroes. Now, don’t get me wrong. Heroes carried me over from September while I waited for Chuck to return, so I’m eternally grateful to it, but…
Viva la Chuck, you know?
And I hear that the future episodes are only going to get better. Seeing that the second half of last night’s Chuck episode attracted a few more people, I think the audience might stay at a steady 2.6+, especially since said second half kicked @$$. And if everything goes according to plan, Chuck could look forward to another renewal…
That’s what I’m praying for, anyway.
I found TBBT quite disappointing last night.. I kinda hate it when shows I love get their highest ratings on weak episodes. But of course I’m still happy they’re doing so great this season
House on the other hand was AWESOME! I didn’t really liked the last 3 episodes (which for me, is a huge thing to say) but this episode made it all up for me. So yay for winning it’s timeslot!
I’m glad that Castle did well. I started watching the episode this morning. I DVR’d it. I really hope it continues so the show can get a third season.
Okay, I am looking at the Chuck Numbers and I am seeing that Chuck came in Fourth in its timeslot with only 7.32 million viewers. That it terrible, they are not doing high fives at NBC, they are looking for new employment. Chucks Numbers are Cancellation Numbers!
I’m so confused now… NBC is interfering with what little i know about ratings!
Is a 2.6 for Castle good? I really want a Castle renewal!.
Wow, Fringe got IDENTICAL numbers, behind a BRAND NEW House, that Lie To Me usually gets and people still think if does better then Lie To Me, especially with no football or football overrun, or even Dancing with the Stars. Fringe Fans are way too funny, some fans have left the show, and Fringe just as Lie To Me is extremely dependent, on a strong brand new episode lead.
I will never understand this site. Chuck only pulls in 7 million viewers and people in this chat are going on about how great that is.
Tonight, the Good Wife Will air and will probably get between 13-14 Million viewers, yet I will come in here tomorrow and people will talk about how disappointing the ratings are for the Good Wife and that it is on the verge of Cancellation.
I will make this plain and simple, The Good Wife will be Renewed, Chuck Will Not
Thanks Robert
well people are crowing about how great a 2.6 is for Chuck so if its good for Chuck, it must be Good For Castle(which pulled in 2 million more viewers than Chuck)
Castle will be renewed, No worries.
@Tom: Considering what NBCs going through right now, Chuck is doing a fantastic job at keeping it’s audience. And that’s all that really matters. Take the Renewal Campaign for example: advertisers are only focused on the people they can sell to, and the Chuck crowd was certainly vocal in telling them that they’re willing to buy. That’s all they care about, and it’s exactly what we gave them.
tom, apparently you will never understand the way the TV industry works, I will make this plain and simple:
(1) Viewership means nothing, its all the 18-49 ratings
(2) Renewal and Cancellation is all about comparisons *within* networks, not *between* networks.
Were Chuck to average a 2.6 rating (not saying it will) that would be NBC’s #3 scripted show and a lock for renewal.
Good Wife’s current 18-49 average of 2.64 (inc. repeats) is #8 for CBS scripted shows. I like its chances for renewal, but its not a lock for CBS.
Johnny says:
January 12, 2010 at 9:52 am
Controversy really does get the ratings up, look at The Bachelor. Next season they’ll have the women making out with each other.
Chuck finished fourth? They should change the name from Chuck to Suck!
LOL! FAIL!
Johnny says:
January 12, 2010 at 9:52 am
Chuck finished fourth? They should change the name from Chuck to Suck!
LOL! FAIL!
Good news, bad news for Chuck fans again.
Bad news you predictably dropped from the Sunday premiere and dropped back down to levels comparable with last year. Good news it’s at the top end of last year’s numbers and is an improvement on Heroes 8PM performances. As I said yesterday though Chuck is all about the long term if it holds steady at a 2.6 or grows from it over the coming weeks then I’d say Chuck fans can chalk that up as a win. If however it drops again next week and continues to bleed then Chuck fans should be very worried.
Elsewhere Big Bang lays another demo smackdown on Men but at what point is Bang ready to stand on its own two feet? Without the Men lead-in would it still be producing these very big demos? I doubt we’ll find out any time soon but unlike NBC, CBS has managed to find and groom a replacement for their big comedy block anchor so Monday’s are looking in good shape for years to come. Meanwhile Accidently on Purpose continues to be the weak link at CBS on Monday night, its Wednesday performance and exactly what CBS are expecting from it there will be interesting to keep an eye on. If its loss isn’t too big from the move it might just be back next season.
Heroes continues to die. No surprises there, eventually NBC will just throw in the towel with Heroes, right?
Fringe meanwhile didn’t perform noticeably better out of House this season than Lie To Me, which is something of a blow for Fringe fans and something of a boost for Lie to Me fans but neither show is really looking much stronger or weaker than it was 24-hours ago. The real question is will Lie to Me get an early return now Genius has gone down the crapper? And if it does where will it and Fringe land after the Olympics? I would think that Fox would prefer to give an Idol slot to Lie to Me given that its ‘in-house’ but who knows…
On one final note I’m still not sure what to make of Castle’s numbers and whether or not ABC are or should be pleased with them.
Shit still floats as evident by House being on top, why is this show preforming, do people actually think it is a good show, how does Fox continually produce crap that succeeds yet the quality shows with some thought tend to hover on the brink of cancellation (ie Fringe) and what the hell are people still watching CSI Miami for, David Caruso to change up his acting style, got tired of that in NYPD Blue. I don’t watch sitcoms so BBT and HIMYM don’t even count in my book, they’re like commercials I skip over them, too short for my complex attention span. My voracious media habit aside I guess I’m just beating my head against a dead horse if I expect quality from my TV viewing and should learn to accept and embrace the bad taste the permeates throughout society and into our media…
Well with Chuck losing only 13% of his rating and Castle gaining 11% thats a good sign for both shows. Heroes…your in big trouble….lost 25% since beginning of season and since last week it lost 8%…not good…and the season average is down over 1 rating point than last seasons average….
Sheldon will still lose his virginity to Penny. You’ll see. Eventually in some weird twist of fate!
Heroes was so awful last night the only thing i can remember from the episode is ratatouille. Damn…like make a point! Chuck on the other hand was absolutely amazing! So original, so entertaining! I expect good things from Chuck
Question for Fringe fans- Did anyone else notice that the Charlie character was in last nights episode. It was a new episode yet that character was killed off weeks ago. It appeared that they aired a so-so stand alone episode that was shot before the events leading up to his characters demise. Am I missing something as I dont get it?
Chuck
Damn if NBC promoted Heroes like they did Chuck the ratings would go up what do u except when u only promo of heroes is on sunday night I think I saw 3 promos the whole winter break 4 heroes it suck cause the show is very good damn the writers stirke!!
I watched The Bachelor due to the controversy. But the show, as it turns out, is really, really boring. Esp since the guy is really boring. The only part that was exciting was the 3 or 4 minutes when the host confronted Roslyn. Everyone else’s reactions to it were just drama queen hysterics which got annoying. Why is this 2 hours long?
Last night’s Fringe was an episode from season 1 that never aired or made the DVDs. I posted about it yesterday:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/01/11/spoilers-tonights-fringe-a-lost-episode-from-season-1/
I’m one of the biggest fans of heroes and it’s time to say this ; CANCEL IT !
Alright, that’s bad numbers for Heroes, but looking on the good side, it got better numbers than the previous week (4.57). Let’s see if David Anders (Adam Monroe), George Takei (Kaito Nakamura) and Tamlyn Tomita (Ishi Nakamura) can make the numbers grow.
Jack says:
January 12, 2010 at 8:59 am
NBC execs are running through the offices doing high fives.
Do you work for NBC? If so that is great.
As someone who likes both Heroes and Chuck I have to say that this is great and it sucks at the same time. I really don’t get why Heroes get so low ratings but is always the most popular show on Hulu the next morning.
I’m surprised this hasn’t been posted (yet) – but ABC gave a 2nd season order to “The Middle”, “Modern Family” and “Cougar Town”
I don’t watch Chuck, but it looks like it made a good self improvement which is probably satisfying, but still finishing fourth for NBC. But anything positive considering what’s happening with that network is good news.
But yeesh, it really had way better numbers than Heroes did with the same slot all season long earlier and Heroes moving back to its original slot with the better numbers from its old slot from the Chuck lead-in and it did WORSE, ouch.
Promos or no proms, what’s good is good but Heroes ain’t been good yet! I will still do poorly! The CW’s Smallville receives literally NO PROMOTION and it still preforms decently in its NINTH season on a FRIDAY! Heroes needs to go. I’m sure there is something which makes some sense which can replace it.
Not bad for Chuck. Hope it goes up.
So Fox’s master plan to destroy Chuck by airing House 2 weeks early worked out as good as I hoped it would – which is: “not at all”
Looks as if we may not have to worry as much as last year about future seasons of Chuck, but then again only 3 out of 19 episodes this season aired so far. I guess a lot can happen from now on in either direction.
Poor Heroes, used to beat Chuck in ratings badly. Look at it now O.o
Go Chuck!!!
I’m glad that Castle did well since I love the show especially considering that the episode last night was the worse one in my opinion in both seasons. It was hardly watchable. Alyssa Milano was awful as a guest star.
Not bad for Chuck. Hope it goes up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Given that we finally got to see Ellie scantily clad last night, a lot of things went up last night.
All I have to say is that im very content with Chucks rating last night. A 2.6 isnt bad for the 2nd show, however I know the rating with be strong next week. AWESOME night for CBS, It is unbeliveable how good Big Bang Theory and TWO 1/2 MEN do for a half-hour comedy. It appears as though Heroes will NOT be apart of NBC’s “rebuilding” as Heroes will be canceled.
Heroes gets a final season renewal for several reasons:
1. NBC invested so much in the show early that it would be exceptionally bad form not to let it wrap up.
2. A full order gets it to 100 for syndication.
3. DVD sales very strong.
4. Very strong overseas.
5. Hayden Panettiere on TV is something NBC will want to keep as long as they can, and they will use the last season to find some way to launch some new show with Hayden.
5. Produced by NBC/Universal, which increases syndication interest.
6. If they have the balls to actually kill off Sylar for good at the end of this season (which they had better), then jaded fans might just come back for one last season.
I know this site is rarely about content or quality of material, but the Heroes writers have only themselves to blame for this. Had they been willing to kill Sylar off ages ago, fans may not have defected. Their strange devotion to a central villain who has outlived his usefulness several times over is what has killed the show. And that’s the truth.
Robert, good point about Football. I forgot about that.
Still, without MNF or anything else you’d expect a bigger 18-49 bump for Heroes then, as there’s a demo overlap between men in that bracket for sports and scifi/action (probably the main reason 24 doesn’t appear until the winter, really). Instead, Heroes tanked against another Sci-Fi competitor.
Not really a difference between Fringe and Heroes, it’s just improved slightly. So if you want to compare the two shows, on Fringe’s side you have
1) It’s got a bigger fanbase (based on DVD sales)
2) It does slightly better or the same at the 9PM hour that Lie To Me (I’m basing this off the 2.6/2.7 Lie to Me received in November before leaving, I usually ignore the premiere ratings for its average 18-49 demo);
3) It’s got a big name producer/writer behind it in J.J. Abrams.
Lie to me has
1) Better Live + SD ratings because of a gigantic lead in
2) It’s a FOX in house production
Seems like last nights ratings indicate that neither show is stronger than the other on any given night. Lie to Me would do Fringe’s numbers without House to lead in, and probably worse at 9PM Thursdays. So, point #1 for Lie to Me really isn’t there. And, even though its a FOX production, it hasn’t sold well at all on DVD, not even cracking 30,000 on The-numbers.com chart its first week of release, so FOX is really only seeing syndication money in addition to broadcast revenues.
I guess it comes down to a question of whether Fringe’s bigger fanbase and pedigree cancels out Lie To Me being a FOX production or not.
That’s fantastic news for Castle!!! I hope it keeps it up. Pray that those who watched it solely because of Alyssa Milano become regular viewers, but I’m hopeful that the show will improve from its merits, and not only because of a prominent guest star or strong lead-in. But of course, anything that will help boost its ratings is welcome.
I want to rest easy, but it seems like there will be more competition in the near future. Cable shows are starting their new seasons even I haven’t decided whether to watch Damages at 10pm and just watch Castle online plus I heard NBC’s moving Leno to a later time slot, which means there’ll be room for yet another drama series. I’m such a worry-wart! Haha!
With a few episodes left, hang in there Castle! I think you can! I think you can!
Ack! Not really a difference between Fringe and LIE TO ME above. Wish I could edit the previous post…
“Given that we finally got to see Ellie scantily clad last night, a lot of things went up last night.”
ROFL. My TV set nearly exploded on Sunday. Yvonne Strahovski AND Mini Anden on-screen together in their skivvies is TOO much hot at any one time.
Jason
I doubt huge amounts of promotion would have helped Heroes. Heroes premiere had a 5.9 rating an 14.29 million total viewers. People who stopped watching stopped watching for a reason, and that reason probably still exists. It’s going to be an almost impossible task to get those viewers back especially as Heroes is serialized.
Chuck on the otherhand has a core loyal fanbase which is probably why it’s ratings are similar to last year. It’s why Chuck is the number one searched keyword on here and you had the Subway campaign. Chuck needed that extra promotion because some probably thought it got cancelled last season; then at the start of the fall season Chuck wasn’t on the listings, instead there was Trauma. For NBC to bring back Chuck mid-season, and on a Sunday they had to heavily promote it just so the existing fans knew it was returning. It’s also likely the writers convinced NBC the change in Chuck’s direction could pick up new viewers.
Heroes on the otherhand premiered in the fall like it has the previous Seasons, apart from being an hour earlier. Those who wanted to watch it were probably aware of it’s return but instead decided to watch a competing network.
Go Chuck!
@Tom
You need to: 1) take a chill pill, and 2) learn how numbers and ratings work before you start criticizing and looking like an idiot.
As with most things in life, ratings are relative. And they are relative to how the rest of the network is doing. NBC is bleeding ratings and continues to be obliterated by the competition. A 2.6 demo with more than 7 million viewers is very good for NBC in one of the most competitive time slots of the week.
All you’re doing is looking at the entire night and saying, “Chuck finished fourth! HA, it will be canceled!” You even stated Chuck will be canceled and said it is a fact. Clearly you have no clue what you’re talking about. If NBC canceled every show that finished fourth in its time slot, they would have any shows left.
Chuck’s numbers last night were very good and very encouraging. If it can hold those numbers, it’ll be back for another season.
A bunch of people on here are saying they expect Chuck’s ratings to fall back into the 2.3-2.4 range, but I don’t understand why. Last season’s ratings began to fade because of the pre-emption by Obama that forced the show to air episodes out of order, and the fact that there were a few crappy episodes that lost new viewers. But from literally every source that has seen preview episodes of this season, I’ve read they all say the episodes get better and better.
The critics and NBC execs are all very high on the quality of the shows this season. So I don’t think it’s totally out of the question for the episodes to hold their audiences up until the Olympics start. Coming back from a two-week hiatus will be another story, although the Olympics should provide some very good advertising time for Chuck. If NBC gives it as much promotion during the Olympics as it did during NFL football, Chuck should be just fine.
It seems a lot of people are assuming the show will lose some ratings throughout the season and be back on the bubble, and understanding setting the bar low so you’re not disappointed. But I see no reason that the show can’t hold the pace it’s on, especially since I think House and The Bachelor are going to lose viewers as the season progresses.
Isn’t NBC’s average viewers during Primetime like 2.25-2.35? A 2.6 is approximately 10% above that mark. I think NBCU wanted a 2.3 or 2.4 for an average. I can’t remember where I read it, but this must have them smiling ear to ear. Go Chuck!!
Corey, I dont understand why either. Im very very high on Chuck right now and it is a tremedous show. I look for the show to be in the low 3.0 range.
QUESTION:
Knowing that Comcast is working to pull NBC primetime out of the 4th place ranking.
Knowing that NBC has already ordered at least 18 pilots, heavy on the scripted dramas.
Why is a good thing that the Monday premier of Chuck found itself in.. 4th place?
Looking at the numbers up there, it seems to me that Chuck will have to improve A LOT just to be 3rd.
Any news about Chuck Second Season DVD sales ?
Just WOW! at Men its really benefiting from not having DWtS in that slot right now. Hasn’t it been a couple a seasons now when Men has reached that high? as for 8pm thats a who diff’ story because I really think Gary needs to move to this night somewhere.
FOX had a good night all-around, a better hold for fringe behind House i say they got to keep it there.
Heroes should be done, don’t bring back a dead horse.
Castle you’re awesome!!!!!
Can’t wait for AI which features Ellen’s debut a judge and Simon’s final season, The X Factor is going to be a cool show.
@Corey
Agreed. Historically, Chuck’s ratings have been stable when blocks of episodes are aired week-after-week. They only went down after hiatuses and pre-emptions.
During November sweeps didn’t LTM also have stiffer comeptition.
Like Dancing with the Stars?
@Devorak
If Chuck holds at 2.6 (or even drops to 2.5), it’ll be among NBC’s top 2 or 3 current scripted dramas.
Plus, it seems like a good omen that NBC is moving forward with JJ Abram’s new spy drama for next season – I picture a “NBC Spy Night” in the fall.
Cue the voice of Jack Bauer: “The following takes place between this Sunday Night and Monday night” –
-finally 24…I – can’t wait ! it’s coming (after Sunday’s Premiere of coarse)…Now Monday’s won’t be boring at least for the next 17 or 18 mondays.
@Devorak
Plus, with Leno moving out of primetime, it will add at least 2 hours of scripted programming each week. (The rest filled by reality shows, Dateline, or specials.)
Another good sign for Chuck.
@Bill,
Good Wife’s current 18-49 average of 2.64 (inc. repeats) is #8 for CBS scripted shows.
Has GW had a lot fewer repeats than other shows? Or does that not include the 1/2 comedies? Otherwise the 8th seems high.
Was there any announcement regarding how the Chuck marathon did on SyFy?
Matt, yes, in the weekly cable top 25 post.
Look through CHUCK’s ratings history and you will find that it bottoms out its lowest ratings per half in its second or third episode back. If that trend is accurate this season will not dip below a 2.5 and finish at a 2.9. NBC will renew CHUCK prior to May sweeps.
Way to go Fringe! Now how about leaving it on Mondays next season? Heroes has become unwatchable, at least in the past when it was bad it was still kinda fun but now NOTHING EVER happens. I say cancel Heroes and send Zach Quinto to Fringe!
One thing that Chuck fans should start to worry about is Obama’s State of the Union speech. We already know it will not be on Thursday, Feb 2, so as to not preempt the Lost debut (think Disney is contributing to his campaign fund?). Tuesday or Wednesday are probably out because of American Idol, although I can see the Dems putting the speech on one of those days just to tweak Fox. That leaves Monday, and a choice of a time slot. Not sure whether SOTU generally goes at 8 or 9 pm. I think it usually goes on at 9, but his speech last year, as we know, was at 8. If he does choose Monday at 8 again, that could not knock some wind out of Chuck’s sails for the second year in a row.
I said this in my first post and I’ll say it again – people are getting very ahead of themselves with Chuck.
Last night was the third episode of the season and the first in its regular timeslot to try and spin it as a success or failure at this point really doesn’t make all that much sense. Remember how many people were patting NBC on the back when they launched Parks and Southland last year and then they promptly fell off a cliff? Same with FlashForward over on ABC this season. At this stage Chuck is still very much in the wait and see pile, I’d chalk last night’s numbers up as a (relative) win for NBC and Chuck but it dropped viewers from Sunday (and dropped viewers across its two-hour run on Sunday itself) and things are only going to get harder for Chuck as the season progresses.
What it does next week (minus House and with the weaker 24 at 8PM) will be telling as will what it does the following week. If it can retain this audience (or grow) then start doing back flips but if it just bleeds viewers from here on out Chuck is screwed.
@ Alex:
I agree with the majority of what you’re saying. It is definitely too early to assume Chuck is going to be a big success (by NBC standards) this season. But I think it’s okay to let fans enjoy this early success for now. It’s a good sign that there was a fair amount of retention between nights and that there were not many viewers lost as Monday night went on.
Obviously there is no way of knowing how things will turn out in the future, but this is at least a good start. If the show had started at a 2.4 and 6 million viewers, it might be time to panic. But it is starting strong, so there’s no reason not to celebrate that fact. But we’ll have to wait and see how the next couple weeks go, then wait again to see how it fares once the Olympics are over.
Very encouraging for the Chuckster… Interesting the TV listing for Two And A Half Men in the USA Today yesterday. Saying it was an “important” night for the show. CBS wanted to see who was watching the show the listing said. Very odd. Is is a carryover from Charlie Sheen’s personal problems? The sad fact that the show in getting long in tooth and Jake is about college bound? Charlie’s character needs to be that crazy single guy again. But I was curious why CBS was considering this episode so important?
@KellyH: Zachary Quinto’s Sylar character has taken over the centerpiece. At first, I thought the Hiro character would. But Quinto is coming off one of the biggest box office movies of last year in “Star Trek” and I wonder if the peacock boys wanted to milk that aspect. I liked how the government story started last year but it reverted back to ol Sylar again. Like watching a Big Ten football season and always at the end of the year the Michigan-Ohio State game has a factor in the championship.
I have to admit last night bbt was not the best but I am so glad it got 5.7 and almost 16 million viewers
this show already has been renewed season four and probably a season 5
So wait Chuck even if it got a 2.4 it would be screwed yet nothing on Mondays is getting that.
Come on Trauma couldn’t do it, Heroes couldn’t do it, so why all the doom and gloom about Chuck.
Also name me one time besides 3D that Chuck drew 7.3 million and a 2.6 demo.
You guys are depressing. Also Bromstadt said she is looking for Chuck to get Heroes type numbers. Well hello.
Seriously some people on this thread.
@Alex
Given the competition Chuck had to go up against, The Simpsons and the special that aired afterward (had a huge NFL lead-in) on Sunday, and the 100th episode of HIMYM and the return of House, I’d say that Chuck did fairly well for NBC. Was there erosion from Sunday to Monday? Of course, but it wasn’t as bad as some had projected.
3 episodes in, Chuck is doing well for NBC, that cannot be denied. Is it too early to celebrate? Of course, but it’s a win for Chuck and NBC.
Next week Chuck *should* be able to increase its ratings, but we’ll know for sure next week the trajectory the show’s heading in.
BTW, wasn’t Chuck the only show on NBC to premiere up vs.last season?
@KellyH, I disagree, Sylar is the most interesting part of Heroes. If he would have died, he’ll be gone. I think Heroes might come back, but only for syndication purposes.
As far as Chuck holding up, I think it will stick within the 2.7-2.4 range until the Olympics. Afterwords it will probably increase, at least for a couple of eps.
I know everyone is picking on Tom, but I’m gonna say this. If NBC canned every show that came in fourth, they would cancel all of these:
Chuck
Heroes
Mercy
Law & Order: SVU
Community
Parks & Recreation
Leaving only
Biggest Loser (1st or 2nd)
Office (2nd, sometimes 3rd)
30 Rock (3rd)
Law and Order (Friday, 2nd or 3rd)
FRINGE did better than I expected. But its future is still very dicey. Depends on the trend during for the remaining episodes of Season 1.
HEROES? End it this season. Its sputtering like an old overheated Model T. The circus plot was pointless. I didnt watch much of it since FRINGE was on, but what little I saw was awful. Peter walked in and destroyed deaf girls Cello? Boo hoo! The cast looks like its going thru the motions just to collect a paycheck and seems to know the end is near.
Chuck did as well as I expected, after Sunday’s performance.
It’s over the first real hump of the season, as far as I’m concerned. Next week is the second hump: surviving 24’s big season premiere.
And the only other obstacle I see (and it’s not much of an obstacle) is the hiatus for the Olympics. Now we get to see what effect it has on NBC’s promotion when the hiatus is filled with a big fat honkin’ borrowed audience. Monday, March 1, the day after the Olympics, the first thing in NBC’s prime time is… that’s right!
But just think, Chuck fans…
How much better would the numbers have been if Fox hadn’t changed their schedule twice to put the Simpsons specials (which lucky for them got the benefit of a football overrun) and House’s season premiere in Chuck’s path?
NBC has a secert weapon and its not CHUCK. His name is Jeff Gaspin. Finally the suits have hired a person with a programming proven record (USA NETWORK). It may take Mr. Gaspin 3 or 4 years to turn this giant corp. around, but if anyone can Jeff Gaspin is the one.
On the unfavorable comments on (Chuck) Sundays 1st show I whole understand. The writers had very diffuclt hurdle. They needed to cram 2 hours of story telling into a 1 hour show to acommodate both new and old viewers.
I heard a FEW interesting developments for CHUCK. Hopefully everyone will know in the next month.
Robert and Bill the awesome contest is, well awesome
Alex,
We know Chuck’s future ratings may fall, just like they may with any show.
Surely you can only determine if a show is a Success or a failure based on the episodes that have aired? for now Chuck is a success based on it’s first 3 episodes.
Lets be honest, most Chuck fans were dreading how bad the numbers were going to be, especially after seeing how bad Trauma/ Heroes/ Mercy were doing. Last season Heroes got a 3.0 in it’s season finale and by episode 3 of this season had dropped to 2.5, like Chuck it had a double episode premiere. Last season Chuck got 2.3 in it’s season finale and last night got a 2.6. So I don’t think you can blame Chuck fans for being happy.
I’m not sure you can compare it to Southland or Parks, Chuck is in it’s 3rd season which could give you a better idea of where it’s ratings will go.
I’m not of the opinion that NBC exec’s were jumping around doing hi-5’s and celebrating, I would have thought it would more a sigh of relief that they one less disaster to deal with. They’ve got to be more concerned with how Heroes did last night as Heroes is a much bigger fish.
I am SO happy Chuck trounced Heroes in the ratings. We can only hope that continues! To be honest I was dreading these numbers, given the competition of House and HIMYM. I figured those were going to take more away from Chuck than the CBS procedurals and Housewives/B&S combo on Sunday.
Honestly, I was hoping for Castle to pull at 2.9 or a 3.0 to get renewel. Especially following The Bachelor.
Chuck did well considering all the tough Monday night competition.
House got the same demo than the night Dancing with the Stars season finale aired, it’s the lowest demo of the season for now (and no baseball messing up with the ratings)
Like Chucksmom, I was hoping for slightly better numbers for Castle, but you know what? The fact that it continues its slow and steady climb coming out of the break is a very encouraging sign. I certainly can’t (and won’t) complain about the 2.6/7/9.5. That’s consistency that’s almost unheard of in this crazy TV numbers “game”.
Hey…anyone seen pisher?
Chuck has to stay next season. Its NBC’s only popular scripted show. They have to keep it to at least establish a baseline viewership to hold the line while whatever new shows come about next year. If I were NBC, I would reward its loyal viewers by at least keeping around one of its shows. If they get rid of all of them, they could potentially bottom out even farther next year.
My only question is, who the heck is still watching Two and Half Men and Big Bang Theory? They have to be the worst, most boring, most predictable shows ever.
Is it just me or should Leno have achieved higher ratings last night with all of the recent publicity? Not that it’s relevant at this point…
Thanks Robert! Sorry I missed it. I guess I’ve just been spoiled with Chuck-related posts getting their own spots!
Favorite line from last night’s Chuck ep:
Devon: You and what army?
Chuck: Sarah and her fists…
W0W!! What’s that rating of House! o__O 12.23 million viewers! It’s been getting really low this and last season…
Yay for TBBT and 2 and 1/2 man!
When Chuck first hit the airwaves, I was a pretty big Heroes fan, but after the way they have butchered that show, I would MUCH rather get an additional season of Chuck in lieu of another season of Heroes…
Go Chuck!! I hope everyone keeps tuning in!
I don’t get how people can’t get tired of Two and a Half Men same old sexist jokes, that appear to fill every minute of the show’s run.
I thought fun at first, but now it’s a really annoying show to me.
Wow, great numbers for HIMYM, congrats, it was a great, great episode of a overall great series.
The good thing for Chuck is that it has momentum in the right direction, unlike say Heroes. It is a strong, well-written show that is adored by critics and loved by fans. I think that perhaps viewers may fall off in the next couple of weeks, but to drop it into the dangerous levels I don’t think so.
why you guys always talk about Chuck?
Chuck will fail on ratings!!!!
yah for HIMYM 100th episode was awesome great #’s + castle got pretty good ratings Alisa Malano guest starring probebly helped
I have seen Chuck 03 only now…well…what a relief !!! it’s still the old good Chuck ( the first 2 episodes scary me!! I’m glad they made a 2 hour premiere!! Otherwise it was already @ 2,2 ratings!!! )
DVR’d six shows, only had time to watch Chuck. Monday night is too jam packed.
Well, I tried to watch Chuck due in large to the endless promos from NBC, but it is just not good. Finishing fourth in a season that is less competitive than the Fall season is not good at all. Heroes and Trauma had to deal with MNF and Godawful DWTS. Heroes, which is okay is about cooked and I expect Chuck to slowly decline. In the Fall I watched Heroes followed by Trauma for some reason. Trauma was weak for about four episodes and then something happened, writing, character development perhaps and it became by far my favorite new show. Tremendous cast. Ship may well have sailed on Trauma, but am anxiouisly awaiting the last six episodes.
wtf i hate american viewers right now! come on how hard is it to watch heroes live!
For comcast chuck > heroes, why?
1) syndication, heroes has a story that flows through the whole season, just like 24 you cant watch episode 5 if you do not know 1-4. that does not work so well for syndication. Chuck on the other hand is mostly “mission of the week” with some multiepisode arc weaved in but not too much, so you can enjoy most episodes without seeing the episode before it.
2) buzz: Heroes is not liked. it has a negative vibe. Chuck is LOVED or ignored, much better.
3) Heroes is expensive. Panettier Quinto and gang are not cheap.
More people are watching The Bachelor than are Chuck. What’s wrong with the world!? D:
Heroes has stayed within budget so that is not an issue. Monday is jammed up, now with another of my fave shows, Fringe. I was loyal to Heroes and watched that live. Will catch BBT and Fringe online. A petition is going around to save Heroes. If interested, go to twitter, follow wendilynnmakeup and read about the efforts to save Heroes for at least one more season.
TBBT just amazes each week. Who knew it would be such a monster hit? I watched the first season and thought it would be cancelled.
Fringe…oh dear…when will it go away?…I thought this week was supossed to be the big reveal when we all get to see that Thurdsay is the problem for Fringe. And yet, even paired with the mighty HOUSE, it still flops…
My reviews for last nights shows:
How I Met Your Mother–9/10
Accidentally On Purpose–6.5/10
The Secret Life of the American Teenager–7/10
Make It Or Break It–9/10
Chuck–8.5/10
Heroes–8/10
Castle–7/10
Great numbers for HIMYM!
Poor Heroes
I really hope it gets renewed for one final season of at least 13 episodes, it’s one of my favorite shows.
Chuck is looking good for Season 4
My “2 1/2 Men” brought in 17 million viewers
maybe NBC needs to put CBS’ reruns on their 10pm spot…..
affiliates would like those numbers……Lenos past his prime….please just retire…
I see Devorak is back trolling against CHUCK.
I propose that ABC and CBS work a straight-up strategic trade. Accidentally On Purpose goes to ABC and Better Off Ted goes to CBS.
Then see what happens. If both are probably to be cancelled, there is really no downside. Each would have a better chance for revival.
Imagine this:
8:00 – Two and a Half Men
8:30 – How I Met Your Mother
9:00 – The Big Bang Theory
9:30 – Better Off Ted
10:00 – CSI: Miami
Ted would go from obscurity to being a hit virtually overnight.
It deserves that kind of break.
It’s already been stated, LTM isn’t coming back until late Spring. They want some summer programming along with Code 58.
Genius Show was delayed and FOX is running encore episode of Simpsons and Human Target.
Both Fringe and LTM are going to have survive on there own.
Either way LTM or Fringe isn’t getting the HOUSE lead in spot next year, guaranteed.
Its awsome that How I Met Your Mother did great. That was one of the best episode yet. Got so close to showing who Teds wife is.
Oh and The Big Bang Theory is a beast wow it gets huge numbers every week.
I remember when I though season 2 of Heroes sucked… But even that was 10 times better than this. All it is now is a bunch of BS featuring people with abilities who have a bunch of unnecessary obstacles thrown in their way while driving down a road that leads nowhere. There isn’t even a purpose to the show anymore. Nobody cares that Claire and Matt Parkman want to lead normal lives and for the love of God get rid of her stupid little annoying roommate, but for the sake of the people who have had to endure her for the entire season… Please make her death nice and slow.
Just a few of the steps that MIGHT be able to resurrect a once-great show.
Holy crap @ Big Bang Theory and Two and a Half Men
I watched Heores, I love fringe 2 but, I’ve invested sooo much more time in Heroes So Ill stick with it til the end. which is right around the corner.
Agreed HEROES is painful to watch now, i will stick with it, until it sinks.
CHUCK and Castle are nice little shows, nothing special but i’m starting to watch these shows more, as i’m getting tired of the old CBS CSI, Cold Case, etc.
NBC will probably order up the final 3 eps of chuck just before the Olympics, thus creating an overflow in the traditional season airings. That I feel would be a good thing, whats wrong with watching new stuff in June, not like its mid summer, plus with everything else ended Chuck will be all alone to bring in great numbers and lead into the 4th season in the fall. Hey look if your in last place where is it written you gotta do what everyone else does, the only way your going to get out of that rut is to do something unexpected. And since everything else NBC has tried has failed it wouldn’t hurt. It was said last spring, Chuck was better than Heroes, and it is, Heroes should have been canceled and Chuck should never have been on the bubble, well they see that now, and anyone at NBC who doesn’t see it needs to leave. Heroes is a show that has bled its initial fan base and continued it decline for the last 2 seasons, chuck on the other hand has held steady, and actually improved somewhat. Sure its not breaking records, but when you have a viewing audience of 20mil for american Idol you got to recognize that most people are just too dumb to watch something like chuck, and that really isn’t a compliment for chuck, cause even though I love it its not a very smart show, but it entertains and that’s all I need.
NBC would have to order those extra episodes this week since the writers are breaking the second half now. CHUCK is not a show that can tag on an extra three episodes at the last minute.
I also will stick with Heroes but after four seasons, I think that if there will be a Season 5, it will be its last. I still love the show though.
Heroes has sure gotten wonky but I enjoy watching it still…though not sure how much longer it can go on. I LOVE Fringe and BBT.
I agree with all Heroes fans here. Give it one more season. I want to see the writers give it a nice, satisfying finale. If you’re interested in helping in the renewal efforts, follow wendilynnmakeup on twitter. We’re setting up petitions and posting snail mail addys for letter writing.
I appreciate all the Heroes fans supporting the show, it’s great to see show loyalty. But if Monday’s ratings become a trend, I can’t see NBC renewing the show. It continues to lose ratings by the week, and now Chuck has shown up with better numbers in the spot Heroes used to have. Plus, Chuck had a 2.8 in its final quarter, then Heroes pulled a 2.1. That’s a HUGE drop-off from a pretty good lead-in by NBC standards.
NBC execs might be breathing a sigh of relief about Chuck, but they’re saying “Oh crap” about Heroes. They might give it an extra season just to finish up the story, but if the numbers continue to go down I’m not sure even that will happen. If its demo dips below 2.0, I think the show is done.
Heroes is still on the air because it’s a gay thing that none of you would understand.
tim kring gives up the ass and the best blow jobs in the industry.
BANG!!!!~
I completely agree with Jason! Heroes does not get the promoting that it deserves. If it got as much promoting as Chuck, Fringe, House etc the figures would be much higher but the only promo I see is the preview at the end of the episode aired! If you don`t tune in to watch it then you miss the promo altogether. Heroes has improved vastly but due to lack of advertising for the show the figures do not reflect this also many viewers of the show DVR the show as they are avid fans. Heroes is a fantastic show that is filled with action, romance, comedy, horror and so much more if it was advertised more often than once a week it would undoubtedly bring in the viewers. I never miss an episode and must say that I adore everything about heroes including the monologues that set Heroes apart from any other show kinda rminds me of the moral messages of Outer Limits